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    Obama, Trump Tie as Most Admired Man in 2019

    Barack Obama and Donald Trump are tied this year as the most admired man. It is Obama's 12th time in the top spot versus the first for Trump. Michelle Obama is the most admired woman for the second year in a row.

    Each year since 1948, Gallup has asked Americans to name, in an open-ended fashion, which man and woman living anywhere in the world they admire most. This year's results are based on a Dec. 2-15 poll.

    Americans' choice for most admired man this year is sharply divided along party lines: 41% of Democrats name Obama, while 45% of Republicans choose Trump. Relatively few Democrats choose Trump and relatively few Republicans pick Obama, while independents' choices are divided about equally between the two men.

    After Obama and Trump, no other man was mentioned by more than 2% of respondents. The remainder of the top 10 for men this year includes former President Jimmy Carter, businessman Elon Musk, philanthropist and Microsoft founder Bill Gates, Pope Francis, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, California Rep. Adam Schiff, the Dalai Lama, and investor Warren Buffett.
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/273125/...-man-2019.aspx

    Another win for centrism!
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    The spot between Obama and Trump is not the center though.

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    Seriously? Something about this stinks.

    I mean, you are asked who is the most admired man, and all you can come up with is the President of your country? And in such a strict party line fashion?

    This has got to be a joke.
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    2 horrible people, that says a lot.
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    Not surprised. Both of them are admired by many and at the same time, hated by many. Trump's approval is about the same Obama's was this far into his first term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Not surprised. Both of them are admired by many and at the same time, hated by many. Trump's approval is about the same Obama's was this far into his first term.
    Still nope:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Not surprised. Both of them are admired by many and at the same time, hated by many. Trump's approval is about the same Obama's was this far into his first term.
    45% vs 42% didn't realize they were that close to each other, granted I don't follow the polls that much but would have guessed Obama's would have be much higher. and at some points both were in the 42% range together.

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    Obama didn't even do anything this year and Trump has no admirable qualities.

    I think American's really need to widen their knowledge of people doing admirable things if the best they can come up with is politicians.
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    Humanity is so awesome. We hold up some of the most interesting folks as our heros.

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    Says a lot, and nothing good, when a significant people consider a lying, cheating, adulterous, narcissistic asshole like Trump "admirable."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Sounds about right. Two polarizing figures standing side by side.
    What did Obama do to be so polarizing? besides you know being black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Says a lot, and nothing good, when a significant people consider a lying, cheating, adulterous, narcissistic asshole like Trump "admirable."
    meh only 18% on both hardly a significant portion, I find this more disturbing than that.

    Most Admired Man

    Billy Graham 61
    Ronald Reagan 31
    Jimmy Carter 29
    Pope John Paul II 27
    Bill Clinton 26
    Dwight Eisenhower 21
    Richard Nixon 21
    George H.W. Bush 20
    Harry Truman 20
    Nelson Mandela 20
    Bill Gates 20

    So many horrible people in the top 10 shows the failure of America's educational system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Pushing through the ACA without buy in from half the nation.
    The ACA is a copy of a plan half the country approved of previously the most core aspect of which designed by the heritage foundation and it now polls very high. This is coming from someone who hated we got that instead of single payer, you may want to find another narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Pushing through the ACA without buy in from half the nation.
    Was a good thing... Cuba has a better healthcare system than the USA. Chew on that for a while.

    Also, that poll is ridiculously USA centric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    Also, that poll is ridiculously USA centric.
    Each year since 1948, Gallup has asked Americans to name, in an open-ended fashion, which man and woman living anywhere in the world they admire most.
    Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    It’s not my narrative; it’s what they say... the ACA was, and still is a divisive issue.

    Saying things like “elections have consequences” and “people clinging to God and Guns” was not helpful either.

    Maybe listen to people you disagree with, instead of outright ignoring them or going to personal attacks. You are still free to disagree with what they say...
    The ACA is the reason democrats won both red and blue districts in 2018 to the point where even republicans were swearing they would preserve most of it. None of these on time comments come even close to what Trump tweets within a week to compare Obama to Trump requires vacating all sense of logic.

    If this poll was conducted when the ACA passed I would agree but perception of most of what the law does has changed greatly. Also where did I personally attack you?

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    Representative democracy. The REAL problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    You do not get to decide what is good for everyone. As Obama pointed out, elections have consequences, and that half the nation disliked the ACA and it’s currently being ripped apart, piece by piece, should be a lesson for us all.
    Yes and the consequences of ripping apart has been the greatest electoral victory since Nixon even with voter suppression and gerrymandering that took decades.

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    12th time for Obama eh, well good for him i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Not me... the electorate that disliked Obama... you putting race into it...

    As for the ACA the popular part of it is Pre-existing conditions... that’s about all... that the lower courts are still slowly dismantling it, piece by piece should be evidence enough.
    Because race is the only reason currently as for the courts they have become like everything else political as Trump has flooded them with incompetent buffoons who will rule in his favor. A centrist take would have been that this poll is a reflection of tribalism as even Trump is polling below his base support so it may just be tit for tat instead of an accurate representation of what people think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Race is a reason for some, as it always will be for some people. But it’s not only about race... as people that voted for him twice also in the end voted for Trump.
    But this isn't about voting it's about who you admire since both are polling far below their approval levels.

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