It's honestly baffling to me that Blizz still refuses to implement Housing

[NoiseTank13]

Not baffling at all.

It would require effort from the developers and resources for the instancing.

The current team is about maximizing profit with minimal amount of expenses.

[ArmatisUlv]

That's not really "designed with player housing in mind" so much as "if we decide to do this, we'll stick it here."

They took the portal out because they went ahead with garrisons.

[Mozu]

Path of Exile does it right. Let me build my hideout.

[Drusin]

The fact that you don't call the garrison a house is proof enough that the two concepts are entirely different.

If Blizz called the garrisons a house I would, if they put in a literal house like those ones in elwynn forest that's just a fancy shack and called it a strip mall then I'd refer to them as a strip mall. I still don't know what housing is or why players want it lol.

[Powerogue]

Garrisons turned out terribly. Even if housing wound up bearing little resemblance, it would always have that stigma against it that'd likely make players despise it just on principle. Think how many people lost their minds over Legion having mission tables even though they were relegated to a sidenote.

[darklogrus]

Garrisons turned out terribly. Even if housing wound up bearing little resemblance, it would always have that stigma against it that'd likely make players despise it just on principle. Think how many people lost their minds over Legion having mission tables even though they were relegated to a sidenote.

Garrisons were abandoned during Alpha, its no wonder they turned out horribly, As for the Mission Tables, WE had to use it in Legion just like we had to use it in BFA..

[Kyphael]

Garrisons turned out terribly. Even if housing wound up bearing little resemblance, it would always have that stigma against it that'd likely make players despise it just on principle. Think how many people lost their minds over Legion having mission tables even though they were relegated to a sidenote.

This. Blizzard fucked the concept for life to me. Even if they delivered a great and satisfying iteration of player housing, there's always going to be that hostility from me that they ruined something so simple by glamorizing it with their Blizzard stamp all over it. Garrisons single-hand drove me away from WoW for a whole 3 years. I don't trust them to deliver on the concept, and I don't give them the benefit of the doubt. Since Blizzzard has no interest in it anyway, obviously, I guess it doesn't even matter.

[munkeyinorbit]

Like... I get that not everyone is going to be into Housing. But then, not everyone is into Raiding, or PvP. Housing has proven a pretty strong pillar of any MMORPG that still exists, so I have to wonder; why are they so hellbent on avoiding it?

Because housing is bad game design. It is that simple.

[Soon-TM]

It's honestly baffling to me that WoW players still think that they're entitled to literally every dumb feature every other MMO has.

It's honestly baffling that random posters still feel entitled to belittle other players for expressing something they particularly don't desire, or simply don't agree with.

OT: player housing is supposed to be highly customizable but to provide no actual power - in this sense, it's a lot like xmog: actual lateral progression, instead of the AP crap (that thankfully seems to be getting the axe in Shadowlands). Garrisons were exactly the opposite: very little customisation, and were a central element of vertical progression when they were current content.

[KaPe]

Because housing is bad game design. It is that simple.

Badly done housing is bad game design, as shown by garrisons. If you create something but then abandon it halfway through, no shit it's going to suck. Meanwhile, actually well done housing is a system that can survive for multiple expansions, without being reliant on current content. It gives professions something to do, it can be great for collectors, RPers and so on.

But nope. One half assed attempt and we're good. Now every time the topic comes back, it can be "dealt with" by mentioning garrisons.

[Relapses]

It's honestly baffling that random posters still feel entitled to belittle other players for expressing something they particularly don't desire, or simply don't agree with.

It's baffling that I'm supposed to just be perfectly fine with people pretending their shitty opinion means anything more than my shitty opinion.

Really.

Seriously.

Baffling.

[cuafpr]

yep i don't get it either.... :/ i keep hoping each expansion but so far total let down

[Soon-TM]

It's baffling that I'm supposed to just be perfectly fine with people pretending their shitty opinion means anything more than my shitty opinion.

Really.

Seriously.

Baffling.

It doesn't mean any more or any less. Get over yourself, really.

Really

[kaminaris]

Pet battles started strong but have devolved into "beat every trainer with no pets on your team with an unreliable internet connection while a guy pokes you with a pointy stick".\

That made me chuckle. As a big pet fan, its not all that bad but we certainly need something different, something new in battle pets. Its still far better than pokemon because some combos I used are absolutely insane. But honestly? I have no ideas. Maybe more than 3 pets fights like brawls? 5v5 pet battles. Ability to evolve some pets?

[Stormwolf64]

You build a house, invite friends to come see it..... and thats it. You'll be the only one caring about it as no one truly gives a shit. Just like in ffxiv. Truly pointless. Guild housing would be the only worthwhile house to have.

[Relapses]

It doesn't mean any more or any less. Get over yourself, really.

Really

Thanks for quoting me to confirm exactly what I said...?

[MHMabrito]

Like... I get that not everyone is going to be into Housing. But then, not everyone is into Raiding, or PvP. Housing has proven a pretty strong pillar of any MMORPG that still exists, so I have to wonder; why are they so hellbent on avoiding it?

To be fair, i'm still baffled people want player housing. I'm sure there are much better platforms to play to give you the experience you want.

[therealbowser]

It's not baffling to me. Their logic might be baffling, but the fact they aren't doing it is not a surprise.

[Seranthor]

Like... I get that not everyone is going to be into Housing. But then, not everyone is into Raiding, or PvP. Housing has proven a pretty strong pillar of any MMORPG that still exists, so I have to wonder; why are they so hellbent on avoiding it?

Have you considered that it is Blizzard's IP and that they have information that you do not possess? Perhaps 'housing' isn't nearly as important as you want to believe it is.

[Soon-TM]

You build a house, invite friends to come see it..... and thats it. You'll be the only one caring about it as no one truly gives a shit. Just like in ffxiv. Truly pointless.

By that logic, xmog is also pointless because you can fool around in weird costumes to have some giggles with your guildies. But most of the time, you are the only one caring about your xmog since no one truly gives a shit. Top tier logic.