What? People will just buy your underpriced flasks
What? People will just buy your underpriced flasks
Yes, but if I'm understanding this correctly the AH automatically sets the price for future listings to the current lowest price. So if another person lists the same item before my 'cheap' items have sold, her items will sell for the same cheap price, unless she manually adjusts the price before listing.
I dont think so anyone posting 1000 flasks will just accpet 25g price when theres only few of them on the AH for that ptice (and be real, they will be sniped in seconds). GL on that tho.
And how is this different than being forced to repost due 1c undercuts like now on live? Im not camping AH, I set 12h time and just repost next day if something dont sell. Guess what? My stuff still sells. I like the new changes alot.
Last edited by Mamut; 2020-01-06 at 10:52 AM.
Yeah, but someone will just put something 1g cheaper on AH and it will be sold first.There is no need to undercut as auctions posted later (at the same price) are sold first.
It's not stupid, undercutting something by 1c to go on top of the list was what was stupid, and that's not even a discussion point, it's a fact.
Also having minimum undercut limit? That's the worst idea I've read here yet. You don't think people will still undercut to get on top of the list? And that this won't keep happening over and over again and devalue everything? Have you never seen people who undercut too much, only to be undercut again so they actually didn't gain anything, they only lowered the price of goods they wanted to sell. Now you propose to *force* people to do this. Talking about a stupid system, there you have it.
And being "forced" to camp the AH? Please. Don't preach the problems of the 0.001% and bring it forth as a major problem. Noone is forced to camp the AH, that's bullshit. If you want to play the AH you can make a lot of money, sure, but that's by choice, don't paint yourself the victim here. Otherwise, feel free to do it like the rest 99.9% who don't camp the AH and believe it or not, can also sell their items.
Of course, and that is fine. Some people will whine endlessly about undercutters ruining their business, it already happens, but it will be bigger after the patch
I like these changes, I hope the deposit fees are gonna be back to normal lower levels - remember, they upped deposits for several minor items to counter all these 1 by 1 posters...
That's... That's not how economics works.
New items cost more because they're new and there aren't as many of them but a lot of people want them. After a while the "new" items aren't as rare and also aren't as desirable so they cost less. That's pretty basic supply and demand, and is in no way impacted by undercutting at all.
Overall this won't really change much, other than it will be a lot more convenient to both post and buy items from the AH which seems like a good thing all around. Buyers don't have to deal with people posting stacks of 1 all the time, sellers don't have to undercut each other all the time and can just post at the same price as everyone else.
Sounds very similar to how gw2s tradingpost work with the exception of keeping the limited time it's kept up.
Last edited by Ophenia; 2020-01-06 at 12:45 PM.
Works fine in GW2 where they use pretty much the same system. It's a change well needed - albeit I do agree this is very late and should have been added +10 years ago.
It's possible you'll get one or two using addons who don't ultimately care because they push so many of everything, but overall, most will just buy your couple and relist them at the more appropriate price. This will happen more frequently now, anyway, since you get placed at the front of the queue when you post, so buying lower price and selling immediately at higher puts you at an advantage.
I just hope it dosen't mess with my AH play. Thats all I care about...I mean Auctionator addon already fixed the AH for me kinda...well minus the many pages.
Looks really nice as a vendor
No need to calculate how many stack of 10 or 50 or 200
Just post all my compo and VOILA !
And we won't have our mailbox full of one stack unsold
That's just shortsided thinking, try to think a tiny bit further than your footstep.
If first one sells than NOONE WILL EVER POST THE SAME THING FOR THE SAME PRICE, they will just undercut you, either way first post won't be sold first. So your argument is pointless.
If you mean to say that the AH should force first post to sell? How the hell do you expect to regulate that? If a chinese farmer posts 200,000 herbs are we gonna be fucked for 48 hours because tough shit, we have to wait for those to sell?
This is NOT a problem. I don't see how so many view it as such? Can you not sell your items unless you camp the AH like the other guy I replied to? You don't fix anything by making first post sell, you just don't change anything at best, and in my opinion undercutting by 1c to get on top of the list is stupid, but if you make the change you suggest then it will keep happening. And no, I don't believe the price is regulated by the 1c undercuts, it's most often brought to a spot with supply demand saturation and AH players resetting prices.
Edit: Forgot to add, the seemingly *cancel and repost for the same price* problem is not really a problem either. We're talking about 1c here, the guy who cancelled and put it up will also do it whether its same or 1c less. It makes no difference, he will in most cases lose his deposit every time he does that though (except some items don't have deposit cost).
I also don't understand the need to immediately sell your items on the AH, do you people pay rent or something? :P
Last edited by Memur; 2020-01-06 at 02:05 PM.
Doesn't it cost money to post stuff on the Auction House, so if your constantly removing items from the AH just to make sure your item sells first, aren't you going to run out of money real quick? Items that don't sell fast the system doesn't work for because then you will never end up selling your new BOE you got lucky with, and items that sell quickly there's no point either because there's a large chance that your item will sell the instant you post it.
Really looking forward to this change, but even casual players would still want addons for two very compelling reasons.
1) History. I want to know if the current prices are good, compared to what sold last week. If not, maybe I don't buy right now, or price my stuff way above the current anomalously low price.
2) Fast posting. If you have to laboriously open your backpack, rightclick on each individual item, them click on the post button, that's a non-starter. The appraiser UI in Auctioneer is a good example of a solution to this.