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    [EU] Swiss people prefer to keep Open Borders.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...vement-with-eu

    A rather unexpected result, even for me. But it appears that about 60% of the people of Switzerland are opposed to any sort of Swexit, strongly prefering to remain in the EU zone for trade and immigration.

    Questionnaires seem to point out that the Brexit shitshow has lionized strong pro-EU sentiments among the people.

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    Well obviously theyd rather remain in it. They are a tax haven for rich people to avoid paying taxes. Punishing countries is literally the only thing the EU is gold for
    Your problem is that you’re more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.

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    It would be highly amusing if Brexit ends up being the cause of Switzerland becoming a full member of the EU.

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    Open borders? Switzerland?

    It's notoriously difficult to move to the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    Open borders? Switzerland?

    It's notoriously difficult to move to the country.
    "Almost all EU/EFTA citizens have the right to move to Switzerland under the Freedom of Movement Act, although they have to register to work and apply for a residence permit for stays of over three months."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    Open borders? Switzerland?

    It's notoriously difficult to move to the country.
    It was easier to get into Switzerland as en EU citizen pre brexit than it is to get into the UK. Only ones having issues were lorry/can drivers who need to make sure papers regarding goods are all right and complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    "Almost all EU/EFTA citizens have the right to move to Switzerland under the Freedom of Movement Act, although they have to register to work and apply for a residence permit for stays of over three months."
    You also do if you move to any member state. You don't need a permit but you have to register as a resident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...vement-with-eu

    A rather unexpected result, even for me. But it appears that about 60% of the people of Switzerland are opposed to any sort of Swexit, strongly prefering to remain in the EU zone for trade and immigration.

    Questionnaires seem to point out that the Brexit shitshow has lionized strong pro-EU sentiments among the people.
    I'd call it Swixit since Swexit would be Sweden.
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    Do not mistake the following for endorsement, but when did conservatism/right wing turn into far right?

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    Do not mistake the following for endorsement, but when did conservatism/right wing turn into far right?
    When they began embracing authoritarianism, nationalism, racism, and ethno-nationalism. It was also about the time they abandoned conservative principles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    "Almost all EU/EFTA citizens have the right to move to Switzerland under the Freedom of Movement Act, although they have to register to work and apply for a residence permit for stays of over three months."
    That's not open borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    That's not open borders.
    No, obviously not literally.

    Only within the EU/EFTA.

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    Moving to Switzerland is easy - all are welcome to move there and spend their money. Getting a job there, now that's the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...vement-with-eu

    A rather unexpected result, even for me. But it appears that about 60% of the people of Switzerland are opposed to any sort of Swexit, strongly prefering to remain in the EU zone for trade and immigration.

    Questionnaires seem to point out that the Brexit shitshow has lionized strong pro-EU sentiments among the people.
    Switzerland isn't in the EU, due to its unique and better form of democracy and constitutional nature its almost impossible for it to be, it just has a bunch of treaties that give it EU lite membership that every now and then they have referendums to keep or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    Open borders? Switzerland?

    It's notoriously difficult to move to the country.
    Probly because its not actualy in the EU fml. It's got its own unique relationship with the EU like Norway which includes mostly accepting most of shengen but not all of it.

    You can move over the boarder freely but you don't auto get the right to remain and work like with true EU member states.

    Edit: It's also worth noting this isn't really support for open boarders alone, Switzerland has a bunch of treaties with the EU that are all reliant in each other to give them EU lite membership, if they veto one in these annual referendum they veto all of it, so if they had voted against the shengen like treatie they would also loose single market access.

    These referendum happen regularly in switzerland as part of its form of more direct democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...vement-with-eu

    A rather unexpected result, even for me. But it appears that about 60% of the people of Switzerland are opposed to any sort of Swexit, strongly prefering to remain in the EU zone for trade and immigration.

    Questionnaires seem to point out that the Brexit shitshow has lionized strong pro-EU sentiments among the people.
    They're not for open borders. Unless you're loaded with cash or lucky enough find work there, it's next to impossible to move there. Especially if you're not from a country in the union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    No, obviously not literally.

    Only within the EU/EFTA.
    Free movement within the EU has limitations too. If you want to stay as a resident you have to register in most member states, and you must prove you are working, self employed, self sufficient/retired or a student. Most countries ask that you do so within 3 months, some more, 4 some not at all but expect you to be self sufficient regardless. In some member states you need to declare your presence at a city hall or police station within a few days. The freedom of movements are for goods, services, capitals and workers specifically. You get a few months break to account for tourism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Moving to Switzerland is easy - all are welcome to move there and spend their money. Getting a job there, now that's the trick.
    Untrue. to be able to move to switzerland and get the B-permit you either have to have: a) a job lined up with proof. b) or have atleast 5 million euros in your bank account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    Untrue. to be able to move to switzerland and get the B-permit you either have to have: a) a job lined up with proof. b) or have atleast 5 million euros in your bank account.
    Which is pretty much similar to moving within the EU. You NEED a job lined up or have enough money to say you won't be a liability to the nation you've moved to or they will kick you out.

    What you can't do is say move from EU nation A to B and say "Give me all your benefits!" that the right try to use to trick people with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Which is pretty much similar to moving within the EU. You NEED a job lined up or have enough money to say you won't be a liability to the nation you've moved to or they will kick you out.

    What you can't do is say move from EU nation A to B and say "Give me all your benefits!" that the right try to use to trick people with.
    bahahaha.. that aint true.. try the Netherlands.. .they will give you shit for free...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    bahahaha.. that aint true.. try the Netherlands.. .they will give you shit for free...
    That is utter bullshit

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