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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeOculus View Post
    I checked the PTR every patch after to see what they add/fix/remove/restrict. I thought it as a simple bug due to the restrictions it had for Demonhunters. Having been told less than a week before release that the Warglaives are DH only doesn't sit right. They knew players will be upset about it and avoided announcing it early.
    Personally, I assumed when they announced transmoggable legendaries that the glaives would be DH-only, since there was already a thing in place to unlock that. It seems like common sense to me that the official warglaive class continues to be the ones that can use warglaives - and the argument that they're swords is silly because the only reason they are swords is the non-existence of DH as a class in BC.

    At the end of the day people are going to be outraged no matter what they do. If they were usable by everyone, people who did the TWing BT stuff to unlock the appearance for their DHs would be mad, and keeping it DH-exclusive makes people like you mad. Its a no-win either way, like pretty much every other decision they make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    Lmao, the OP is getting destroyed but keeps on fighting. Loving the tears and illogical arguments.

    This is how it should be, and also how it will be. My DH won't transmog to BT glaives anyway.
    I unlocked the appearance with BT timewalking but honestly those glaives have not aged well, so I never use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psyquest View Post
    I am a DH and want to yield two big two handers like warriors.

    This is a slap in the face that my DH cannot use two shadowmournes.
    I hope you realise how that's very different and stupid, right?

    Granted we don't have single minded fury anymore so I wouldn't be dual wield mogging the glaives as a fury, but glaives in general is just "fancy" swords.
    For a DH there's no difference between swords and glaives, they can use both and use them all as sharp pointy objects to slash and dash around targets with.

    If anything DHs are the "special snowflakes" who got their own weapon type just to be more special, taking the glaives away from any other class that could justify using those same glaives just as much, and which they did for a long time...

    Even practicly, and not just "Hurrdurr it has my class name on it": Glaives would work fine for several other classes, while 2handers and blunt weapons in general would not suit DHs and their fighting style.
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    Blizzard back to doing what they're best at, arbitrary bullshit decisions. Quelle surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varitok View Post
    Except the Warglaives are usable by 5 or so classes.
    And had been for a decade before DHs even became playable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roguezor View Post
    I hope you realise how that's very different and stupid, right?

    Granted we don't have single minded fury anymore so I wouldn't be dual wield mogging the glaives as a fury, but glaives in general is just "fancy" swords.
    For a DH there's no difference between swords and glaives, they can use both and use them all as sharp pointy objects to slash and dash around targets with.

    If anything DHs are the "special snowflakes" who got their own weapon type just to be more special, taking the glaives away from any other class that could justify using those same glaives just as much, and which they did for a long time...

    Even practicly, and not just "Hurrdurr it has my class name on it": Glaives would work fine for several other classes, while 2handers and blunt weapons in general would not suit DHs and their fighting style.
    And oppositely I think that warglaives becoming an official, new weapon type was one of the coolest things about Legion. And I say that as someone with 3 complete sets of glaives in the banks of 3 different characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzhands View Post
    The logic I suppose is that only DH can use glaives, and the Warglaives are only classified as a sword because glaive wasn't a weapon class back then. Sure you can technically use them, but not in a lore sense.
    If we went by lore sense there would be many other exceptions. It's still inconsistent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    You should honestly make that your signature, because it fits so many posts on these forums.
    Who died and made you and Bodokane kings of what someone can take issue with or not? People disliking something about a game and expressing it? On a gaming forum, dedicated specifically to the game in question?! What a travesty Never mind that you complained about things on this forum as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tankbug View Post
    No reason why that should suddenly be true. They should not have dropped at all (before Legion) if it was so important that no other class could wield them, and originally they were not even made for demon hunters.
    Do you think that maybe they originally were not made for demon hunters because demon hunters didnt exist back then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    You want glaives? There's a class for it, play it and enjoy the overrated old model. You don't see DHs running around complaining they can't equip Shadowmourne, do you?
    False equivalence totally makes for a good argument. In some alternate reality. Maybe.
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    You shouldn't support people like him, it's like supporting ISIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    And oppositely I think that warglaives becoming an official, new weapon type was one of the coolest things about Legion. And I say that as someone with 3 complete sets of glaives in the banks of 3 different characters.
    Ohh yeh, I don't mind a new weapon type in general, but when they add one that includes the apearance of old items that are classified as swords, that I've had on one of my warriors for 9 years and can still equip, but can't use the transmog off it gets a little annoying.

    Even more so considering all the other "classes" pointed out by people in this thread, that can use glaives, even tho they are NPCs. Like, why can't survival hunters use and transmog glaives? At some point they even had "Glaive toss" as a talent, now changed to "Chakrams"... it fits their weird figthing style mix of melee and "range"

    Heck, there's even polearms that almost fit a loose description of glaives: a stick with a blade on each end (yeh yeh, shorter stick in the case of glaives) :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    Lmao, the OP is getting destroyed but keeps on fighting. Loving the tears and illogical arguments.

    This is how it should be, and also how it will be. My DH won't transmog to BT glaives anyway.
    Yes, people using false equivalence to Shadowmourne-wielding DHs when the Class can't even equip that weapon unlike a whole range of Classes being able to equip Warglaives or "muh lore reasons" when by that logic there should have been many other exceptions are true destruction all the while multiple DH players are disagreeing with the decision.
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    Well... it only bothers me, cause even though this is a "Demon Hunter weapon", when it came out, it was not, and the people who actual have memories of using it as their weapons, were not DH, so why shouldn't those people get the option to wield it? (I'm ok with not letting Monks use them)

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    Kind of agree, they should let anyone mog them that was capable of using them, Blizzard just doesn't want the 5 Demon Hunter players that exist to feel bad they had to do more work to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roguezor View Post
    Ohh yeh, I don't mind a new weapon type in general, but when they add one that includes the apearance of old items that are classified as swords, that I've had on one of my warriors for 9 years and can still equip, but can't use the transmog off it gets a little annoying.

    Even more so considering all the other "classes" pointed out by people in this thread, that can use glaives, even tho they are NPCs. Like, why can't survival hunters use and transmog glaives? At some point they even had "Glaive toss" as a talent, now changed to "Chakrams"... it fits their weird figthing style mix of melee and "range"

    Heck, there's even polearms that almost fit a loose description of glaives: a stick with a blade on each end (yeh yeh, shorter stick in the case of glaives) :P
    Alternatively Blizz could have made the original glaives into official warglaives in Legion and locked out those 5 classes from ever equipping them again, instead they left them as-is and added a version for DHs to unlock.

    I guess I just don't subscribe to this being some kind of slap in the face. As I said in an earlier post, it was the direction I expected since a system was already in place to transmog them for DHs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilian View Post
    Well... it only bothers me, cause even though this is a "Demon Hunter weapon", when it came out, it was not, and the people who actual have memories of using it as their weapons, were not DH, so why shouldn't those people get the option to wield it? (I'm ok with not letting Monks use them)
    And then it would be monk players making the 'slap in the face!' outrage topics.

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    It is a good thing.

    Otherwise we are going to end up with classes not even recognizable visually with rogue dual yielding wands or whatever silly thing we can imagine.

    Glaives are iconic demon hunter weapon. They need to stay that way.

    Dual yielding two handers: its a fury warrior, no other class/spec.

    Double daggers: rogue!

    etc

    My take, dont need to quote me and reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    And then it would be monk players making the 'slap in the face!' outrage topics.
    Completely true, but that does not change my opinion in the matter (still a mere opinion so meh)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    Yes, people using false equivalence to Shadowmourne-wielding DHs when the Class can't even equip that weapon unlike a whole range of Classes being able to equip Warglaives or "muh lore reasons" when by that logic there should have been many other exceptions are true destruction all the while multiple DH players are disagreeing with the decision.
    Yeah, I am a DH main and love the class, but to make these DH only is silly af. The "effort" reasoning is just out there. Like non-DH's didn't do the effort or something..
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    Quote Originally Posted by psyquest View Post
    It is a good thing.

    Otherwise we are going to end up with classes not even recognizable visually with rogue dual yielding wands or whatever silly thing we can imagine.

    Glaives are iconic demon hunter weapon. They need to stay that way.

    Dual yielding two handers: its a fury warrior, no other class/spec.

    Double daggers: rogue!

    etc

    My take, dont need to quote me and reply.
    Well I'm quoting you because I agree completely. Visual identity should matter.

  19. #79
    It is an illogical and stupid decision that makes 0 sense. But, on the other hand, the warglaives look ugly. I don't understand why would any DH wants to use it as transmog.

  20. #80
    Making everything available to everyone was, and continues to be, the downfall of this game. Demon Hunters get one less spec' than everybody else, so I support them getting something no other class can have.

    Classes need exclusive shit.

    Player skill deserves exclusive shit.

    Time invested deserves exclusive shit.

    Giving everything to everybody was the worst decision paradigm WoW ever bought into.
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