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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Goat View Post
    Of course you do. They stated why they're behaving differently than other legendaries, plain and simple. They've given a supporting reasoning to their decision. It's theirs to do with as they please, in the first place.

    The Warglaives, unlike ANY OTHER LEGENDARY, had a unique method of allowing them to be transmogged by the class they are most appropriate for.

    So yes, you will need more than a contrarian opinion to convince me, or anyone for that matter, that you're doing anything more than just bitching.
    Not really. Their justification sucks so it's getting called out. Just adding a rationalisation doesn't in itself make sense of a weird exception contrary to the rule.

    And I don't need to convince you because you seem pretty locked into the "whatever Blizzard does is good," mindset regardless. Nothing lost for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biske View Post
    Oh, I think it's neat and stuff, it's just I literally never see anyone even talk about it and I'm pretty sure most people forget it exists. I never understood the reasoning for not wanting legendaries to be transmoggable, since, if you can transmog it, it means you got it, and once the xpack it was in is over, you never got to see it again so all the work you put in just went down the drain (unless you were just standing around Org/Stormwind running around with Thunderfury or the Warglaives waiting for a queue to pop).

    Anyway, poor Val'anyr.
    Oh yeah, it's pretty obscure. It would probably just be seen by most as a random Ulduar epic. It isn't the most overt legendary by any means.

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    They should add a HD version for the timewalking achievement, and make the old one moggable by all classes that can wield them.

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    Think you need a few tubes of ointment for that butthurt

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    They should add a HD version for the timewalking achievement, and make the old one moggable by all classes that can wield them.
    This I agree with. If they really want to make the DH one special, make a HD version only for DHs and then let everyone else (warrior, rogue, monk, dk) transmog the old version.

    Then I might actually use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    What is funny is the consistency. Rogues have an artifact skin as well that looks like Thunderfury, but it is ok for everyone to be able to mog into it.
    TF is not an iconic rogue weapon, nor are swords in general considered iconic rogue weapons. Glaives on the other hand are very much bound to Illidan and DH lore in general.
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    The biggest takeaway here is that they want time-walking raids to mean something despite being outdated content and awfully implemented as players more often than not have zero clue what lies in wait nor what they're signing up for when they engage with them. The variance within and between the raids in terms of difficulty is just astonishing and the only feat in this transmog is sticking with a group and seeing it through the raid to its end.
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  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    I'm a DH player and I disagree with Blizzard's logic. I don't really need to feel special for farming a decade old pair of legendaries and then doing a painfully boring timewalking raid. If they really want to keep a separation between the original glaives and the ones DH can transmog, then, I dunno? Make like a pair of HD Warglaives for Demon Hunters like Rogues got HD Thunderfury and let everybody else mog the original ones.
    Time walking is fucking aids.
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  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Vintersol View Post
    The warglaives sitting on my bank since a decade and suddenly a shitty demonhunter class claims it for exclusiveness?

    kek!
    Don't forget Demon hunters stole the Warlock "Metamorphosis" from Demonology.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by ViolenceJackRespectsWomen View Post
    Time walking is fucking aids.
    Man, Timewalking Black Temple when it came out was a total mess to PUG haha.

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    TF is not an iconic rogue weapon, nor are swords in general considered iconic rogue weapons. Glaives on the other hand are very much bound to Illidan and DH lore in general.
    Still shouldn't matter. Their reasoning is that DH got the warglaives as an appearance and thus Thunderfury should apply the same with rogues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsgrace View Post
    Don't forget Demon hunters stole the Warlock "Metamorphosis" from Demonology.
    And DKs stole Death Coil from warlocks!

  12. #132
    fel warglaives don't even thematically suit a warrior, monk, or rogue so get over it

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsgrace View Post
    Don't forget Demon hunters stole the Warlock "Metamorphosis" from Demonology.
    To be fair, you were borrowing it. And personally speaking, I think both classes could've kept it since they are mechanically and aesthetically rather different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    Still shouldn't matter. Their reasoning is that DH got the warglaives as an appearance and thus Thunderfury should apply the same with rogues.
    The difference is DHs did TWing to unlock the original warglaive appearance where as the rogue artifact appearance is not the original TF. It isn't like rogues had to suffer through an awful, tedious TWing raid to get a transmoggable TF.

    So yeah. Not the same thing.

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Man, Timewalking Black Temple when it came out was a total mess to PUG haha.
    The problem is everything is long just to be long but the mechanics do no damage. Doing five time walking dungeon at the start of an expansion actually gives me cancer. All the deadly stuff is neutered rather than just making the dungeon shorter but easier to wipe in.

    Also didn't they update the black battle tank and legacy players didn't have to re-earn it. They truly do the most random mental gymnastics.
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  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    The difference is DHs did TWing to unlock the original warglaive appearance where as the rogue artifact appearance is not the original TF. It isn't like rogues had to suffer through an awful, tedious TWing raid to get a transmoggable TF.

    So yeah. Not the same thing.
    Fairly sure Rogues, Warriors, Monks and DKs would do Timewalking Black Temple, despite how much of a mess it is, once, to unlock it too. B)

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    The difference is DHs did TWing to unlock the original warglaive appearance where as the rogue artifact appearance is not the original TF. It isn't like rogues had to suffer through an awful, tedious TWing raid to get a transmoggable TF.

    So yeah. Not the same thing.
    Except you are attempting to split hairs. DH also didn't unlock the original appearance, theirs has been adjusted to fit the class to operate as actual glaives vs sword, so it isn't the same either. In the end both got a legendary transmog and both should be treated the same, no exceptions. Either both be moggable or neither be moggable.

    Thoridal being moggable for hunters should be similar to DH unlock. So that really would leave just the Ulduar mace at which point does it really need to be moggable? Sure, there is Sulfuras but there is the Firelands version that works in its place.

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by ViolenceJackRespectsWomen View Post
    It still is everything is long to be long but the mechanics do no damage. Doing five time walking dungeon at the start of an expansion actually gives me cancer. They're a legit long just to be fucking long. All the deadly stuff is neutered rather than just making the dungeon shorter but easier to wipe in.
    TW dungeons? I dunno, that depends on which ones imo. Legitimately haven't done the WoD ones yet, but the MoP ones irk me something awful. Was in a hurry to finish them and got Siege of Niuzao Temple several times. Ugh.
    Quote Originally Posted by ViolenceJackRespectsWomen View Post
    Also didn't they update the black battle tank and legacy players didn't have to re earn it. They truly do the most random shit.
    Don't get me started on that.

    Yeah, but Ion is Scarab Lord, so..

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    Could you be a little bit more over dramatic ?

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    I only mog weapons that are worth it visualy.
    Most Legendarys don't even nicly fit my mogs.
    Can't care about them beeing mogable xD

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