1. #3021
    That is very true, but i think they are capable of pulling it off this time. There's alot going on between 48.8% and 10.6% and thats what Method still has to solve. That plus the resolve that Limit seem to have this race, i think makes it across the line. But it should be interesting to see. (I also would love to see how the other 11/12 guilds are doing, but seems to be very little info around).
    This indeed. Seems like Limit is very determined, while with Method it seems like they really don't care that much. This is Limit's race to lose now, but I doubt they will.

  2. #3022
    Quote Originally Posted by bloodwulf View Post
    Believe it or not, Max says he likes N'zoth better than Azshara cause it doesn't have any LOS bullshit mechanics, and that seems to be common with most of the guild.
    Really??? Huh, colour me surprised. I wasn't really interested in EP's WF so I didn't think the LoS mechanics were that big of a deal there (as in, a problem). Unless those too were bugged?

    I wonder what are their thoughts on rest of the raid, Il'gynoth and Ra-den for example. Max says he still has no idea what's going on in Drest'agath's fight, which is pretty funny to hear considering how well they're doing in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodwulf View Post
    Believe it or not, Max says he likes N'zoth better than Azshara cause it doesn't have any LOS bullshit mechanics, and that seems to be common with most of the guild.
    So it's not the worst boss ever made? I thought we had a consensus in this thread - and everyone knows that armchair raiders are more correct than actual world first raiders.

  4. #3024
    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    I mean this is absolutely not an easy boss in terms of mechanics it just doesn't feel epic in scope compared to other end of expansion end bosses especially for one that we have building to for multiple expansions. The puddle placement, beams, paranoia, push/pull and add casts seem easy on your own then you realize they can and do sync up which is where the difficulty of the fight comes from. You also have limited sanity and aoe restore that can only be used once per player and forces grouping. While the hearrt phase seems quite easy in comparison it forces burning a ton of necks making the sanity gate a significant issue and positioning paramount. There is a reason this looks to be a 300 pull boss without the 4th phase that "totally didn't ever exist"
    Compare it to Jaina or Azshara...
    It's obvious that Blizzard had a mythic only phase planned, which was scrapped because of bugs, which is why N'zoth is such a disappointment... but as it currently sits it has to be considered the worst and easiest end of expansion encounter for many expansions, maybe even all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    Yes? The overlaps are extraordinarily difficult to execute have you not been watching? There is a reason people keep dying first phase and contrary to what twitch chat is saying it isn't because they are bad players.
    Lots of deaths are because of bugs, P1 is a joke... do you even listen to Limits streams? They're bullshitting and joking for 2/3rds of the encounter.
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  5. #3025
    Looks like Method now has comparable DPS to Limit, this should be interesting to see what happens next since Method dropped most of their melee and they also have two disc priests. Limit still has to run splits, not even sure if they are going to but it might be beneficial to shave off a couple of extra %.

    I've got a feeling Method might win this one though assuming they get their P2 sorted.

  6. #3026
    Quote Originally Posted by gobarj View Post
    Looks like Method now has comparable DPS to Limit, this should be interesting to see what happens next since Method dropped most of their melee and they also have two disc priests. Limit still has to run splits, not even sure if they are going to but it might be beneficial to shave off a couple of extra %.

    I've got a feeling Method might win this one though assuming they get their P2 sorted.
    they're still almost 2% behind on first burn phase and cannot make it to chamber room consistently. I agree that this setup seems better, but i wouldnt put money on Method yet.
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  7. #3027
    Quote Originally Posted by gobarj View Post
    Looks like Method now has comparable DPS to Limit, this should be interesting to see what happens next since Method dropped most of their melee and they also have two disc priests. Limit still has to run splits, not even sure if they are going to but it might be beneficial to shave off a couple of extra %.

    I've got a feeling Method might win this one though assuming they get their P2 sorted.
    They're still significantly behind but it does seem better now at least.

  8. #3028
    So funny how people try to lecture Method in here. They have done the exact same thing all previous WR races and have always snatched world first. This is still Limits race to lose though.

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    "N'Zoth ruined the fun of WF's. He's so broken! OMG! REEEE!!!!"

    Literally everyone: *Looks at Kil'jaeden, Yogg'Saron, Firelands Ragnaros, and C'Thun* Heresy...

  10. #3030
    Quote Originally Posted by gobarj View Post
    Looks like Method now has comparable DPS to Limit, this should be interesting to see what happens next since Method dropped most of their melee and they also have two disc priests. Limit still has to run splits, not even sure if they are going to but it might be beneficial to shave off a couple of extra %.

    I've got a feeling Method might win this one though assuming they get their P2 sorted.
    Do they? At the end of Convergence cast (which is a transition to phase 2) Method with no deaths were at 81%. Limit hovers around 77% usually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    Really??? Huh, colour me surprised. I wasn't really interested in EP's WF so I didn't think the LoS mechanics were that big of a deal there (as in, a problem). Unless those too were bugged?

    I wonder what are their thoughts on rest of the raid, Il'gynoth and Ra-den for example. Max says he still has no idea what's going on in Drest'agath's fight, which is pretty funny to hear considering how well they're doing in it.
    I know some of the raiders in Limit seem to like the soccer boss because it allows individual players to shine. Also they all seem to hate the carapace because its so short and lackluster. As for the other bosses i think most don't have a real opinion one way or the other.
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  12. #3032
    Why didn't Blizzard combine Carapace and N'zoth fight on mythic? It would be so cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryjkur View Post
    Why didn't Blizzard combine Carapace and N'zoth fight on mythic? It would be so cool.
    They really should've been 1 massive fight, ngl.

  14. #3034
    Quote Originally Posted by HighlordJohnstone View Post
    They really should've been 1 massive fight, ngl.
    30 minutes per pull lmao.

  15. #3035
    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    30 minutes per pull lmao.
    A perfect fit for Method.
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  16. #3036
    Quote Originally Posted by HighlordJohnstone View Post
    "N'Zoth ruined the fun of WF's. He's so broken! OMG! REEEE!!!!"

    Literally everyone: *Looks at Kil'jaeden, Yogg'Saron, Firelands Ragnaros, and C'Thun* Heresy...
    Because back then it wasn't "in" to hate blizzard

  17. #3037
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntingbear_grimbatol View Post
    Compare it to Jaina or Azshara...
    It's obvious that Blizzard had a mythic only phase planned, which was scrapped because of bugs, which is why N'zoth is such a disappointment... but as it currently sits it has to be considered the worst and easiest end of expansion encounter for many expansions, maybe even all time.

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    Lots of deaths are because of bugs, P1 is a joke... do you even listen to Limits streams? They're bullshitting and joking for 2/3rds of the encounter.
    Uh yeah that happened in Jaina too eventually you reach a point where you are on autopilot for most phases. Much like even heroic guilds can bullshit during fights they wiped on a ton eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostile View Post
    Because back then it wasn't "in" to hate blizzard
    Well, "back then" there wasn't as much reason to hate Blizzard. Lately they've been making mistake after mistake, almost to a comedic level.

  19. #3039
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostile View Post
    Because back then it wasn't "in" to hate blizzard
    is it gonna ever be "in" for you to not hold your bottom out for blizzards sake?
    youu dont even care for the race literaly every post here from you is some defense for blizzards

  20. #3040
    Quote Originally Posted by -aiko- View Post
    Well, "back then" there wasn't as much reason to hate Blizzard. Lately they've been making mistake after mistake, almost to a comedic level.
    please , you really expact blizzard could nowdays

    - just copy/ paste a raid tier

    - copy paste another raid

    - make a one room raid

    - letting legendarys and pve items in pvp

    - undertune dungeons

    - time gate a raid for months

    - no world content

    that were all no reasons to hate , even so if they would do it nowdays, people would scream budget cuts/ lazy and more ?

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