1. #3541
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Not even close to same position. Yes Max had to negotiate to get them the deals they got but after that was done it was done. He doesn't have to book rooms or venues, he doesn't have to manage payroll, he doesn't have to negotiate with sponsors. Red Bull and Complexity handled all that for him the last 2 tiers.

    Sco is comparable to whoever is running complexity, not Max. Scripe would be a position more comparable to Max, IE raid lead/strats and generally handling guild shit while Sco handles all the organization based shit.
    The big thing that's changed is that this tier Max was the undisputed star of the race. He's the guy everyone was watching on Twitch, had the most interesting stream and won the world first.

    Honestly it's pretty unexpected because this is a complete victory - Limit dominated from start to finish, not just on progress but in streaming.

    I'm curious whether Method goes to voice comms next tier to compete.
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    It's not supposed to be fun, we are not in 2009. It's supposed to be frustrating and keep you hooked longer.

  2. #3542
    Gratz to Limit. Earned it this Raid tier.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow.

  3. #3543
    kinda weird from noga to tweet that shit while you are there IRL with most of the guild tho, confrontations are real.

  4. #3544
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrod View Post
    I'm curious whether Method goes to voice comms next tier to compete.
    They need to, watching Sco or other player streams is a complete and total bore fest of silence, game sounds and the occasional DBM/WA alert. It's not an entertaining experience at all if they want to grow viewership.

  5. #3545
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Not even close to same position. Yes Max had to negotiate to get them the deals they got but after that was done it was done. He doesn't have to book rooms or venues, he doesn't have to manage payroll, he doesn't have to negotiate with sponsors. Red Bull and Complexity handled all that for him the last 2 tiers.

    Sco is comparable to whoever is running complexity, not Max. Scripe would be a position more comparable to Max, IE raid lead/strats and generally handling guild shit while Sco handles all the organization based shit.
    Sco is not a one man shop, he's got other people in their company. And I'm sure that particularly when method is gearing up for RWF he has someone else to handle a lot of the logistics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Metallourlante View Post
    It's not supposed to be fun, we are not in 2009. It's supposed to be frustrating and keep you hooked longer.

  6. #3546
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Hopefully mythic N'zoth being untested isn't a sign of things to come.

    Limit endured a lot for N'zoth, but if every RWF from here on out is going to be as frustrating as N'zoth, I can see Limit losing their drive to put up with that.
    I think being partnered with Complexity (and the facilities they used) helped negate the annoying bugs and whatnot - it seemed the venue they were at really boosted morale as well.

    And now getting a top level of a restaurant rented out for them - I'm surprised a different organisation is putting so much money into it. I wonder if it'll be profitable to them in the end.

  7. #3547
    Quote Originally Posted by jjbarea View Post
    kinda weird from noga to tweet that shit while you are there IRL with most of the guild tho, confrontations are real.
    Yeah that's gotta be awkward.

  8. #3548
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    Lol, that`s disgusting. Tweet got deleted tho.

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    I enjoyed watching Max instead of the RWF stream. Casters are boring it's more fun to watch and listen to coms imo.

    Congrats USA world first for the first time in ages.
    We're all newbs, some are just more newbier than others.

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  10. #3550
    Anyone know what Max's stream peaked at? Last I looked it was 108k viewers.

  11. #3551
    Quote Originally Posted by sunxsera View Post


    Lol, that`s disgusting. Tweet got deleted tho.
    Monetization baby!

    Quote Originally Posted by Snackpack View Post
    Anyone know what Max's stream peaked at? Last I looked it was 108k viewers.
    saw 130+

  12. #3552
    Quote Originally Posted by rodinspfc View Post
    I enjoyed the race, gratz to Limit. But imo the bigger win is the stream content quality, Limit actually have raiding, all of it, comms include. Watching Method just pissed me off, endless breaks, shitty overlays, more breaks, stupid fluffy casters, more breaks.
    There is one thing that Method did have that I really wish Limit's stream had and that's the best pull info on screen not just via chat command.

  13. #3553
    Quote Originally Posted by Snackpack View Post
    Anyone know what Max's stream peaked at? Last I looked it was 108k viewers.
    I saw his stream at 119k a few minutes after the kill; might have been higher.

  14. #3554
    Quote Originally Posted by Barzotti View Post
    Well played Limit, they have been phenomenal in this race. And the 16 hour start is irrelevant because Method is far from killing the boss.



    Two hours before the kill, Gingi said Limit was at 370 pulls. It's on par with Argus.
    Gingi was wrong. Limit killed it at 273 pulls.

  15. #3555
    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    I wonder if it'll be profitable to them in the end.
    Have you ever heard of gamestop perfomance centre, home of Complexity Gaming? It already is profitable.

  16. #3556
    Quote Originally Posted by Snackpack View Post
    Anyone know what Max's stream peaked at? Last I looked it was 108k viewers.
    How much money does a streamer make from something like this? 10 days of streaming, maybe 15k average viewers for 12 hours a day?
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    It's not supposed to be fun, we are not in 2009. It's supposed to be frustrating and keep you hooked longer.

  17. #3557
    Quote Originally Posted by sunxsera View Post


    Lol, that`s disgusting. Tweet got deleted tho.
    That's actually pretty petty.

  18. #3558
    Quote Originally Posted by sunxsera View Post


    Lol, that`s disgusting. Tweet got deleted tho.
    I would imagine that to be, above all, a joke :P

  19. #3559
    Limit not even barely taking world first like method did before the solidly had this kill in the bag and I think that method knew it and that’s why they have been progressing so slow I think that it hit them yesterday that they could not win the gold

    Limit not even barely taking world first like method did before they solidly had this kill in the bag and I think that method knew it and that’s why they have been progressing so slow I think that it hit them yesterday that they could not win the gold


    No of course people are going to say that it was paid a win or that limit had this Headstart but if you think about all the bug kills and how slowly limit was actually working on some of these bosses they did not have that huge Headstart that people like to use as an excuse

    Even a raider from method agreed that they were outplayed that it didn’t come down to the time but limit just played better and personally I think they deserved this I think after all the work that it looks like they placed into this race they deserved this world first kill

  20. #3560
    Quote Originally Posted by SinR View Post
    I enjoyed watching Max instead of the RWF stream. Casters are boring it's more fun to watch and listen to coms imo.

    Congrats USA world first for the first time in ages.
    I watched max or Naowh seeing him randomly just start yelling and singing along to his music without queuing his mic was great since I kind of tend to do that to stay focused during long ass fights. Thank god for PTT. Also makes me feel like I'm slightly less crazy.

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