1. #1261
    Sleepless night for the Method boys

  2. #1262
    Quote Originally Posted by Sneek View Post
    If Limit used 4 DKs on Raden they would be exploiting
    It has nothing to do with class stacking it has to do with the reseting and keeping stacks of grim. Very clearly unintended behavior given that basically every ability like that resets on pull like Druids can't stack up to 8 to get an instant 9 for example on boss pull it resets to zero. Stop trying to make the behavior equivalent.

  3. #1263
    This really is Limits race to lose at this point.
    Method looked shaky yesterday, and any sub50% 3 organ down pull was more a fluke then consistent progression.
    Them now resorting to splits to get a few more ilvls wont make much of a difference either i guess, with Warforging gone any upgrade will be rather minor?
    And with Sco now being in a full cloth split you could expect they will run several in a row, so by the time they get back to progression Limit will be close to waking up.
    Unless they do something drastic and completely switch up their comp i dont see how they catch up unless N`Zoth is horribly overtuned.
    Last edited by Mascotte; 2020-02-01 at 11:30 AM.

  4. #1264
    Quote Originally Posted by keldarepewpew View Post
    The bosses are just undertuned because they mis judged corruption, pretty sad race so far.
    I don't think they are really undertuned. Don't underestimate how much these guilds spend on buying corruption pieces, something a normal guild won't have.

    If these guilds don't breeze through content the 'mediocre' guilds are going to run into wall after wall and simply quit.
    The raiding scene is on life support as is, WoW doesn't need another ToS.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  5. #1265
    Rumour has it the last boss is currently mathematically impossible.

  6. #1266
    Quote Originally Posted by keldarepewpew View Post
    The bosses are just undertuned because they mis judged corruption, pretty sad race so far.
    How is it sad because as far as I can see there is currently a boss that unless you have clever use of game mechanics no one can kill

    Then there is a boss that even with people using corruption one of the best guild in the world to have a chance of killing it needs to go for split runs

    The final two bosses weren’t even tested so we can’t say anything about that

    I don’t know what kind of mindset you are in but personally I don’t know a single mythic raider that wants progress for the world first guilds to last more than a week because those are the best of the best that farm and do split runs and do testing on the PTR they have an army of alts

    If you think that a raid tear is disappointing because it only takes six days for the world first race to be over then you are a sad person and you have my pity because your enjoyment of a game comes from how hard it is for other people

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecospherez View Post
    Rumour has it the last boss is currently mathematically impossible.

    Best meme kek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascotte View Post
    This really is Limits race to lose at this point.
    Method looked shaky yesterday, and any sub50% 3 organ down pull was more a fluke then consistent progression.
    Them now resorting to splits to get a few more ilvls wont make much of a difference either i guess, with Warforging gone any upgrade will be rather minor?
    And with Sco now being in a full cloth split you could expect they will run several in a row, so by the time they get back to progression Limit will be close to waking up.
    Unless they do something drastic and completely switch up their comp i dont see how they catch up unless N`Zoth is horribly overtuned.
    With the removal of war forging it actually makes it a lot easier to funnel gear

    You no longer need to worry about if he peas is a slight item level upgrade for a character because of some RNG roll and is not tradable to a main

    In fact if you get a piece with really good corruption on it that goes straight to a man and you don’t have to worry about it so if anything split runs this time around are a lot simpler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    It has nothing to do with class stacking it has to do with the reseting and keeping stacks of grim. Very clearly unintended behavior given that basically every ability like that resets on pull like Druids can't stack up to 8 to get an instant 9 for example on boss pull it resets to zero. Stop trying to make the behavior equivalent.
    Hack technically no guild has killed it without taking advantage of the reset timer right now the fourth place killed in the world is wiping really regularly because of it

  7. #1267
    As a neutral that doesn't live in EU or NA, i think limits been the better guild this expansion over the full raids but as we know they've repeatedly failed at the final hurdle. That's pressure from lack of experience, while method have confidence from repeated success.

    If limit can get the monkey off their back and win it'll be huge for them mentally and make them even stronger in Shadowlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascotte View Post
    Them now resorting to splits to get a few more ilvls wont make much of a difference either i guess, with Warforging gone any upgrade will be rather minor?
    And with Sco now being in a full cloth split you could expect they will run several in a row, so by the time they get back to progression Limit will be close to waking up.
    Unless they do something drastic and completely switch up their comp i dont see how they catch up unless N`Zoth is horribly overtuned.
    You seem to have forgotten that this is the first mythic reset, meaning that there only was one heroic reset before. They don't have their entire raid filled with 460-475 items so there's plenty of places to get upgrades. Not to mention that even getting the same corruption, but on a 'better' slot can be a considerable upgrade. And even if it's just a stamina increase, it can be enough to turn minor overkill into survivable scenario, which means no chain explosion on Il'gynoth.

    Ignoring that, Carapace looked fairly dissapointing overall. Phase 1 changes looked impressive but turned out to be fairly easy for Limit. Phase 3 only has instant void zones and starting at higher hp. Il'gynoth/Ra-den seemed to be much more of a step up from their heroic versions.

  9. #1269
    Carapace seemed quite simple, going down faster than Ra-Den and Il'gynoth. At least it wasn't a Spine 2.0, so hopefully N'zoth is actually a good end boss.

    Hopefully Limit won't choke now, it really seems like it's their race to lose now.

  10. #1270
    Quote Originally Posted by Mascotte View Post
    This really is Limits race to lose at this point.
    Method looked shaky yesterday, and any sub50% 3 organ down pull was more a fluke then consistent progression.
    Them now resorting to splits to get a few more ilvls wont make much of a difference either i guess, with Warforging gone any upgrade will be rather minor?
    And with Sco now being in a full cloth split you could expect they will run several in a row, so by the time they get back to progression Limit will be close to waking up.
    Unless they do something drastic and completely switch up their comp i dont see how they catch up unless N`Zoth is horribly overtuned.
    They can get plenty of upgrades. In a few minutes, Gingi got a +14% on boots, Fragnance got a 465 weapon from Underrot (+7% upgrade).
    Last edited by Barzotti; 2020-02-01 at 12:13 PM.

  11. #1271
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatt View Post
    As a neutral that doesn't live in EU or NA, i think limits been the better guild this expansion over the full raids but as we know they've repeatedly failed at the final hurdle. That's pressure from lack of experience, while method have confidence from repeated success.
    If they are doing better overall at easier bosses, and fail at the hardest ones, that would rather suggest their players are simply less skilled.

    Also I love how people in this thread are acting as if Method were over as a guild because they are not doing as good as they could have and are only world 2nd at the moment

  12. #1272
    To think that if Method only used 2 locks on Raden all this talk about exploiting would end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    If they are doing better overall at easier bosses, and fail at the hardest ones, that would rather suggest their players are simply less skilled.

    Also I love how people in this thread are acting as if Method were over as a guild because they are not doing as good as they could have and are only world 2nd at the moment
    It'd suggest their players are better at doing damage but worse at following tactics. Both are forms of skill, and you can't perform well without both.

  14. #1274
    So, Method its donezo? its 3 bosses vs 1 for Limit

  15. #1275
    Quote Originally Posted by Leyre View Post
    So, Method its donezo? its 3 bosses vs 1 for Limit
    They've come back from behind before, but unless something extreme happens it seems F for Method

  16. #1276
    Quote Originally Posted by Leyre View Post
    So, Method its donezo? its 3 bosses vs 1 for Limit
    Limit will still lose some time while Blizzard are tuning the boss in real time.

  17. #1277
    Just woke up (EU) and I thought I'd see Method at least in the last 20% of Fury. Wew they are so behind, it's actually getting interesting now.

  18. #1278
    I wonder what will happen to Method if they lose.
    They ahve mostly been coasting on inertia for a while now being the best, but if they lose, and they really dislike playing the game as much as they seem to then i wonder if they might disband, or at least fall down the rankings quickly as they have little reason to keep challenging themselves for the win.

  19. #1279
    Not a Method fan but I dont see why some Method fans are worrying. I dont see Method panicking at all, they'll kill Ily after splits quickly and progress on carapace. Even if Method doesn't kill Carapace today Limit wont make much progress on Nzoth today. End bosses are ridiculously tuned and very unforgiving, its going to be awhile before Limit gets to last phase. Method has plenty of time.

  20. #1280
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    I wonder what will happen to Method if they lose.
    They ahve mostly been coasting on inertia for a while now being the best, but if they lose, and they really dislike playing the game as much as they seem to then i wonder if they might disband, or at least fall down the rankings quickly as they have little reason to keep challenging themselves for the win.
    Nothing major. They've lost before. They'll possibly look at replacing some folks on the roster, maybe they'll change prep for the future.

    Don't forget, the guild actually broke up a couple of expansions ago and Sco merged the few left with Rapid Eye Movement and remade the guild.

    It's too big of a business for them.

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