Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[Edge-]

As long as all your family members are fully vaccinated, I think it should be okay. We have had multiple major gathering events in San Francisco - Fleet Weeks, Dodgers/Giants games, Outside Lands/Halloween, etc. - without a spike.

Yeah, I'm less concerned with a locally caused spike and more worried about the plague carriers spreading it to the bubbles where we're actually following the guidance and trying to get the pandemic behind us.

Seriously, for all the complaining about how much these folks hate the pandemic they sure seem to be actively working to keep it going as long as possible.

[Unholyground]

Covid still going on? We need to all just let it happen and live with it already, people will die and they will be missed but life goes on. Get vaccinated or don't I don't really give a shit, I have friends that did and friends that didn't and I am still here and we are still friends. I even caught it really bad and almost had to be hospitalized as well, to the point where I was gasping for air and coughing up blood and I am still here and stronger than ever.

[Edge-]

We need to all just let it happen and live with it already, people will die and they will be missed but life goes on.

Man, let's just throw out medicine as a whole. Broken bone? You may suffer, but life will go on. Cancer? Your suffering will be extreme and those close to you will watch the cancer progress but you know what, life goes on. Polio makes a comeback because people reject vaccines? We may have a generation stuck in iron lungs or crippled for life, plus countless dead, but life goes on.

Let's just take this fatalistic death worship to its logical end.

I even caught it really bad and almost had to be hospitalized as well, to the point where I was gasping for air and coughing up blood and I am still here and stronger than ever.

Actually, you're not. Vaccines provide better protection against covid infection/re-infection than your immune system does if you catch the virus.

Seriously, I'm astounded at how big the modern Death Cult is. Too bad this is the most boring, bland variety of Death Cults. If there's gonna be a Death Cult, I'd hope it would have all the spectacle and ceremony of the Thuggee cult in Temple of Doom.

[Unholyground]

Man, let's just throw out medicine as a whole. Broken bone? You may suffer, but life will go on. Cancer? Your suffering will be extreme and those close to you will watch the cancer progress but you know what, life goes on. Polio makes a comeback because people reject vaccines? We may have a generation stuck in iron lungs or crippled for life, plus countless dead, but life goes on.

Let's just take this fatalistic death worship to its logical end.



Actually, you're not. Vaccines provide better protection against covid infection/re-infection than your immune system does if you catch the virus.

Seriously, I'm astounded at how big the modern Death Cult is. Too bad this is the most boring, bland variety of Death Cults. If there's gonna be a Death Cult, I'd hope it would have all the spectacle and ceremony of the Thuggee cult in Temple of Doom.

I got both mine, never said I didn't. Just done following the rules telling me I can't see my family and close friends even though we are all responsible and wear masks etc, you can see both sides of the argument and still have an opinion, this is oppressive no one can deny that regardless of what side of the fence you are on.

[Edge-]

Just done following the rules telling me I can't see my family and close friends even though we are all responsible and wear masks etc

So tell them to stop being selfish and ignorant and get the fuckin vaccine. That's the fastest way to get covid behind us, all the folks who are refusing the vaccine are doing is prolonging the pandemic.

you can see both sides of the argument and still have an opinion, this is oppressive no one can deny that regardless of what side of the fence you are on.

This is not oppressive in the slightest. This is a fuckin global pandemic. If folks can't think outside of themselves and about their broader communities, then we're really fucked as developed nations since we've lost any and all collective spirit. Apparently we've traded that in for, "Fuck you, I got mine" as our ethos.

[PhaelixWW]

this is oppressive no one can deny that regardless of what side of the fence you are on.

Sure you can.

It's not oppressive.

And if you want to argue that it is, you should also find time to argue that seat belts are oppressive, fire codes, speed limits, labor laws, etc.

[Tuor]

Covid still going on? We need to all just let it happen and live with it already, people will die and they will be missed but life goes on.

That is the plan, i said it before that the virus has come to stay, there is no other real option other then learn to live with it. My personal plan is to relax has soon has we have proper meds for it, until then i'll keep using the freaking (and disgusting) mask.

[Unholyground]

Sure you can.

It's not oppressive.

And if you want to argue that it is, you should also find time to argue that seat belts are oppressive, fire codes, speed limits, labor laws, etc.

Not letting people see their family and friends is oppressive and unacceptable with a vaccine available. Regardless no one in our city is following it anymore. I can understand huge gatherings and parties but there is no consistency at all with their rules.

[Rasulis]

I think one of the worst part about the pandemic is that we forget that there are other diseases. My wife had high fever last week and felt very achy. Despite the fact that she had a breakthrough infection in April and received booster shot, our first thought was "Covid." Turned out she had kidney infection.

[Edge-]

Not letting people see their family and friends is oppressive and unacceptable with a vaccine available.

https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ph...h-measures.pdf

If they're vaccinated you can gather in small groups indoors, assuming you actually live in Canada and that there's no more recent information I missed. Only thing stopping you would be if your friends/family are unvaccinated.

[PhaelixWW]

Not letting people see their family and friends is oppressive and unacceptable with a vaccine available.

What law, rule, or statute is preventing you from seeing your family and friends?

Where is this happening?

[Poopymonster]

I think one of the worst part about the pandemic is that we forget that there are other diseases. My wife had high fever last week and felt very achy. Despite the fact that she had a breakthrough infection in April and received booster shot, our first thought was "Covid." Turned out she had kidney infection.

One silver lining: People are now more likely to go to a doc for shit and catching it early, not slinking their way to metastasized cancer.

[Unholyground]

https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ph...h-measures.pdf

If they're vaccinated you can gather in small groups indoors, assuming you actually live in Canada and that there's no more recent information I missed. Only thing stopping you would be if your friends/family are unvaccinated.

Nope they have seprate rules for each provice too and they are far more restrictive than the federal level stuff.

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What law, rule, or statute is preventing you from seeing your family and friends?

Where is this happening?

New Brunswick right now. It is pretty crazy.

[PhaelixWW]

New Brunswick right now. It is pretty crazy.

So those rules only affect the "circuit breaker" areas, which is not the entire province and only for short periods of time, and while gatherings at private homes are restricted, other gatherings are not:

There are no restrictions on fully vaccinated people gathering at businesses, events and services where proof of full vaccination with a government issued ID is required (e.g. Museums, cinemas, theatres, bingo halls, casinos, amusement centres, arenas, game rooms, pools halls, live entertainment venues, weddings, funerals, gyms, yoga studios, restaurants, bars and similar venues). At these venues, individuals need to wear a mask indoors except while eating or drinking.

So you can quite easily see your friends and family at one of the above venues.

[Edge-]

New Brunswick right now. It is pretty crazy.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2021/10/...d-19-measures/

Numbers look pretty good now (not seeing anything about overfull hospitals, vaccination rate is high), but it seems that this might be a consequence of the earlier decision -

In late July, New Brunswick became the first province in Atlantic Canada to remove all health-protection measures, including mask-wearing rules.

On Sept. 24, as the Delta variant continued to spread rapidly across the province, Higgs reimposed a state of emergency on the same day a senior health official admitted that lifting restrictions two months earlier was a mistake.

Sounds like you need to elect better leadership that doesn't shoot themselves in the foot by declaring "Mission Accomplished" months too early.

[Unholyground]

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2021/10/...d-19-measures/

Numbers look pretty good now (not seeing anything about overfull hospitals, vaccination rate is high), but it seems that this might be a consequence of the earlier decision -



Sounds like you need to elect better leadership that doesn't shoot themselves in the foot by declaring "Mission Accomplished" months too early.

Ya I agree we need better leadership 100%, but that isn't solution to the problem. It has been 2 years I am no longer listening to their bullshit, sometimes you have to disobey.

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So those rules only affect the "circuit breaker" areas, which is not the entire province and only for short periods of time, and while gatherings at private homes are restricted, other gatherings are not:

So you can quite easily see your friends and family at one of the above venues.

Ya but it isn't my fault people in our zone are retarded. I am vaccinated and follow the rules.

[Edge-]

It has been 2 years I am no longer listening to their bullshit, sometimes you have to disobey.

Almost like part of the reason it's been two years+ is because...people have been flouting and ignoring guidelines and expert advice and dragging all this shit out.

But cool, mr. rebel. I guess we can't call you James Dean because you've found your cause.

[Unholyground]

Almost like part of the reason it's been two years+ is because...people have been flouting and ignoring guidelines and expert advice and dragging all this shit out.

But cool, mr. rebel. I guess we can't call you James Dean because you've found your cause.

I followed them perfectly, at one point I didn't leave the house for 5 months don't be a dick.

[PhaelixWW]

Ya but it isn't my fault people in our zone are retarded. I am vaccinated and follow the rules.

And yet you can still friends and family at a venue, as long as they're vaccinated, too.

I don't see the "oppression".

[Unholyground]

And yet you can still friends and family at a venue, as long as they're vaccinated, too.

I don't see the "oppression".

That makes no sense and is less safe than a house...