Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[PACOX]

My workplace went from making people declare where they've been over the last two week to only allowing essentials on site.

[Benggaul]

[*]Another scenario with "herd immunity" is to spread this shit in a controlled fashion to not destroy healthcare system, but to immunize population relatively fast and ensure you get over this in specific time frame. The gamble here is the "controlled" part, as in everything goes as planned and of course it's more dangerous.

The problem is that the leadership here seems to think "Dutch people follow the rules" (and even went so far as to say as much with regards to why they aren't following the Italy model). This is utter bullshit, as anyone who's spent more than 5 minutes here could tell you. One day after telling people to stay at home whenever possible, socially isolate, keep contact to a minimum and I walk out my door to work (unfortunately my work is considered "essential") and see more people crowded together outside a CLOSED bar than there ever were when it was open. Apparently they organized their own little BYOB and decided to constipate the sidewalk with drunken--possibly diseased--ignorance.

They do not have the means to control this the way they think they do, and that's going to cost more in the long run than quarantines.

[Strawberry]

Sweden only has a bit over 1000 cases, but they don't test anyone besides those who are in the risk zone (or come from Italy).
So people like me who most likely have it and are in self quarantine are not included in that number.
I can only imagine how much higher the number of infected people it is in Sweden.

Also, I understand why elderly people die.
I'm 35 years old, got good condition, no previous health issues, never smoked, don't drink alcohol, and my lungs are working at about 60%-75%.

[TirielWoW]

The problem is that the leadership here seems to think "Dutch people follow the rules" (and even went so far as to say as much with regards to why they aren't following the Italy model). This is utter bullshit, as anyone who's spent more than 5 minutes here could tell you. One day after telling people to stay at home whenever possible, socially isolate, keep contact to a minimum and I walk out my door to work (unfortunately my work is considered "essential") and see more people crowded together outside a CLOSED bar than there ever were when it was open. Apparently they organized their own little BYOB and decided to constipate the sidewalk with drunken--possibly diseased--ignorance.

They do not have the means to control this the way they think they do, and that's going to cost more in the long run than quarantines.

Not to mention that there seems to be little, if any, immunity offered by battling the virus. There's every indication that you can be re-infected.

[Onikaroshi]

Not to mention that there seems to be little, if any, immunity offered by battling the virus. There's every indication that you can be re-infected.

Latest reports are stating it is not likely that people are being reinfected, though nothing is guaranteed either way.

[Crissi]

I suspect Texas's cases will jump soon as more testing centers opens. Seems the leaders here are anticipating that by pre-emtively closing all bars, restricting restaunts to drive thru / take out only, closing movie theaters / gyms, etc...

Porb means I should go get pet food ASAP before even the pet stores close.

[Puupi]

Sweden only has a bit over 1000 cases, but they don't test anyone besides those who are in the risk zone (or come from Italy).
So people like me who most likely have it and are in self quarantine are not included in that number.
I can only imagine how much higher the number of infected people it is in Sweden.

Also, I understand why elderly people die.
I'm 35 years old, got good condition, no previous health issues, never smoked, don't drink alcohol, and my lungs are working at about 60%-75%.

I'm terrified of the virus.

I had a seriously life threatening pneumonia last year which lead to two lung surgeries and my lungs are currently operating at roughly 50% capacity of what they used to be/should be. Hence I might die if the virus hits me hard....

I also have some serious issues with my digestion system, going to the hospital next time on wednesday to have another magnetic scan on my intestines. Been shitting blood every day for three months already....

I've had the doctors plug a camera inside me from every possible hole already and almost every possible scan done yet they still don't know what's wrong with me.

[Onikaroshi]

I suspect Texas's cases will jump soon as more testing centers opens. Seems the leaders here are anticipating that by pre-emtively closing all bars, restricting restaunts to drive thru / take out only, closing movie theaters / gyms, etc...

Porb means I should go get pet food ASAP before even the pet stores close.

Order all my pet food online, so honestly not worried about that part at least (3 cats, 1 bunny)

[Corvus]

That's 6% not .6%, recovery is a bit longer than a week, it's like 2 or more.

Yeah, you are correct.

The problem is that we are seeing far more cases a day now occurring than the total number of recovered people. The system will be overloaded here soon.

Also, a local manufacturer of hand sanitiser has announced that it has halted production until at least easter due to international chemical shortages.

[Crissi]

Order all my pet food online, so honestly not worried about that part at least (3 cats, 1 bunny)

yeah decided to just order from Chewy instead because pet store is right next to grocery store so that's going to be a clusterfuck.

but like...how is chewy already out of stock on most cat litter? -_-

[Onikaroshi]

yeah decided to just order from Chewy instead because pet store is right next to grocery store so that's going to be a clusterfuck.

but like...how is chewy already out of stock on most cat litter? -_-

uh... hmm... do we want to know? Maybe human sized litter boxes to squat over for less mess.

[shadowmouse]

I should go get pet food ASAP before even the pet stores close.

Not a bad idea, even if stores want to stay open there might be supply chain issues. Also, while I wish you good luck and good health, make sure you have a current backup plan to take care of your pets if you do get stuck unable to get home.

[Crissi]

Not a bad idea, even if stores want to stay open there might be supply chain issues. Also, while I wish you good luck and good health, make sure you have a current backup plan to take care of your pets if you do get stuck unable to get home.

tbh they really should classify those stores as essentials too, cause pets need food too. and while grocery stores have cat and dog food, i dont think they have rabbit / fish / lizard food.

but thank god for the internet. Makes dealing with all this easier, as long as the warehouses dont shut down too.

[Tulune]

Massachusetts just announced tonight that they're closing down all sit-down restaurants and bars, all gyms and movie theaters and clubs... everything with people gathered in more than groups of 25 except grocery stories and pharmacies. You can take out food and have food delivered, but no sit downs. Business can stay open but social distancing must be enforced. There is only 150 people or so infected (and 70 of them from Biogen), but it's hell bent on nipping this in the bud.

My state rocks. But we always have our shit together. It's why the American Revolution got started here. You're all welcome.

Hey, we're neighbors! I live in MA as well. Do you know where most of the cases are?

[Skroe]

Hey, we're neighbors! I live in MA as well. Do you know where most of the cases are?

https://www.livescience.com/massachu...s-updates.html

Apparently 83 of the the infections are in Middlesex County, where I live.

[Tulune]

https://www.livescience.com/massachu...s-updates.html

Apparently 83 of the the infections are in Middlesex County, where I live.

I live in northern Worcester county, here's hoping the lockdown prevents those numbers from moving and increasing. And stay safe!

[Deja Thoris]

Latest reports are stating it is not likely that people are being reinfected, though nothing is guaranteed either way.

If its like any other virus you don't get it again since your bodies immune response kills it. You get colds occasionally since its a different "cold" virus but with viruses like measles etc you never see a reoccurance, not sure why this one would be different.

On another topic, Trumps tweet about Covevefe now makes more sense, NostraTrumpus was speaking in tongues about the virus.

[alexw]

yeah decided to just order from Chewy instead because pet store is right next to grocery store so that's going to be a clusterfuck.

but like...how is chewy already out of stock on most cat litter? -_-

Stores have ran out of toilet paper and people are looking for an alternative, obviously.

[Deficineiron]

Yeah, nope. Better call off you doomsayers, it ain't happening.

This thing will pass like every other one. We get this shit almost every decade to a greater or lesser extent, true it's a bit more spicy this time because of how easy it is to transmit, but all in all this won't be the world ending event. Good odds are we will be sitting in a bar cracking jokes about this next year already.

well I am glad we have someone more qualified than those virologists and epidemologists writing about this here. /s

you might be right (and it would be very good if you are). I don't see evidence that your viewpoint is right at this point - nor can such evidence exist conclusively afaik. qualified people have said they see no reason why this cannot become endemic.

would you have said the same thing in spring of 1918? why or why not? (would you have been right about drinks in spring 1919?)

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If its like any other virus you don't get it again since your bodies immune response kills it. You get colds occasionally since its a different "cold" virus but with viruses like measles etc you never see a reoccurance, not sure why this one would be different.

On another topic, Trumps tweet about Covevefe now makes more sense, NostraTrumpus was speaking in tongues about the virus.

fair to ask how long on average the virus stays in the body. this 'reinfection' report has come from multiple countries now, but afaik not on someone who was sequenced on their first infection.

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As of this afternoon we are at 136 confirmed cases in Louisiana. All bars, casinos, and movie theaters are closing tonight at midnight. Restaurants will have to close their dining rooms, but will still be allowed to do take out, delivery and drive-thru. Capital One and Chase have both gone to Drive-Thru only access in my area, closing their lobbies to customers. My employer is still hanging on to keeping our lobby open, but this is going to bite us in the ass so badly. We had at least eight visibly sick individuals in our lobby today. One woman admitted she had full on fucking pneumonia, she could barely stand and was visibly sweating and coughing everywhere. I wanted to strangle her with my bare hands.

I was also told by one member that we needed to "pray away" the disease. That there was no point to quarantine or washing hands or any of that because "if God wants you to get the Coronavirus, you're gonna get the Coronavirus."

Please save me from these people. Ugh.

when mardi gras was started I was convinced they should cancel it (been tracking this virus since mid-jan and concluded we were probably in trouble by late jan/early feb). am in northshore now so I pay attention. Februrary was a surreal time for me because no one here paid the slightest heed to this topic.

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Sweden only has a bit over 1000 cases, but they don't test anyone besides those who are in the risk zone (or come from Italy).
So people like me who most likely have it and are in self quarantine are not included in that number.
I can only imagine how much higher the number of infected people it is in Sweden.

Also, I understand why elderly people die.
I'm 35 years old, got good condition, no previous health issues, never smoked, don't drink alcohol, and my lungs are working at about 60%-75%.

what are your symptoms? is your blood oxygenation normal always?

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I hope you are right on that. I am hoping more on the we find a viable treatment in the next month or so and we can go back semi normal business by end of May/June.

even something promising needs considerable testing for safety. I would be VERY leery of a treatment which either had a dubious safety profile or skipped elements of it.

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Hate to break it to you but a major depression is pretty much guaranteed. It doesn't need to take a year.

The stockmarket crash alone will set it off, not even counting the physical economy grinding to a halt.
Look at China, with their heavy lockdown it took 3 months before they are now slowly starting things back up.

no precedent I can call to mind for what central bank balance sheets are about to start doing. essentially float indefinite loans to keep targeted parts of the economy out of receivership. the implications of that alone are hard to swallow.

every country in the world chilling their economies voluntarily is something horrible to behold.

[Puupi]

what are your symptoms? is your blood oxygenation normal always?

I doubt normal people without chronic lung illnesses have any idea about their blood oxygen saturation levels or the existence of such a characteristic at all. :P