Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[zenkai]

Speak for yourself.

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They did just fine during and before the 18th century.

No they didn't, I question your history teacher if you believe this to be true.

[PhaelixWW]

68.000 deaths from the flu in a total of 9 months (3 years of winter season). Italy only.
So yeah, 500 deaths a day is fear-mongering.

Actually, that's four years of data. So that averages to 186 deaths per day. This virus is already almost three times as much, and it's only just starting.

Do you understand graphs?



Also, numbers are just in for Italy, and they had another +627 deaths yesterday. That's a 47% increase over the previous day's death count. So make that four times the death count of the flu per day.

Refer back to the graph to see why that's going to continue to get much worse.

[Cynep]

You're flu numbers add up to 250 deaths a day. So double the mortality rate when it is just starting is fear-mongering?

Double the mortality rate is still in "above average" part of the scale, not in "time to be scared" part. Swine flu caused 20x more deaths, there was no panic back then. Will there be panic and economy crash every couple years now when a new strain appears?


Unrelated question: can someone explain why almost no one gets sick in India?

[PhaelixWW]

Swine flu caused 20x more deaths, there was no panic back then.

This virus will cause far, far more deaths than the H1N1 by the time it's done.

[cubby]

I think you are forgetting those refugee camps.

Ok, I believe I was, too. But a few of the larger (multiple millions) cities in India are almost akin to refugee camps. Bathrooming in the streets, no running water - it's pretty bad. And it won't get better.

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Unrelated question: can someone explain why almost no one gets sick in India?

They do - the Indian government just isn't testing anyone anymore. It's horrific.

[markos82]

So I just watched latest news, these retards have decided two close all bars, restaurants and malls in 2 days. I don't get it why wait for 2 days when you declared curfew 72 hours ago...

[Tyrannica]

I suppose the Australians have decided to test out if the heat actually does slow down the virus.

[Kontinuum]

Italy reports 5,986 new cases of coronavirus and 627 new deaths, raising total to 47,021 cases and 4,032 dead
https://www.wykop.pl/link/5397187/59...-i-627-zgonow/

[Gaidax]

Italy reports 5,986 new cases of coronavirus and 627 new deaths, raising total to 47,021 cases and 4,032 dead
https://www.wykop.pl/link/5397187/59...-i-627-zgonow/

That's just flu bois, stop with dem fear mongering durrrr.

[The Scourge of Azuremyst]

Germany passed Spain now.

[Acidbaron]

Belgium closing the borders to prevent tourism from the neighbouring nations.

https://www.politico.eu/article/belg...ential-travel/

If caught travelling around and endangering others there are fines up to 4000 euros and a jail sentence of up to 3 months.


Germany is going to do that on Monday if not sooner.

[TigTone]

Italy reports 5,986 new cases of coronavirus and 627 new deaths, raising total to 47,021 cases and 4,032 dead
https://www.wykop.pl/link/5397187/59...-i-627-zgonow/

This virus just hit society at the perfect time. Mass travel, crowded cities, not to mention it can travel on products and infect people that way.

It the perfect storm for COVID 19. Nature is scary.

[Gaidax]

Data for today in Israel, but this is for the afternoon, so don't get your happy pants on just yet:

705 confirmed cases, 2 critical, no deaths. Currently we test about 3k a day and government wants to boost it to 10k a day next week with new drive-in testing centers. We have managed to procure a shitton of testing kits thanks to Mossad buying them off secretly in various gulf states, so right now the stumbling block is those simple sticks to take samples (of all things, we managed to fuck that one up) and personnel.

[The Scourge of Azuremyst]

testing kits thanks to Mossad buying them off secretly in various gulf states

Those kits are faulty.

[beanman12345]

At 3pm the Governor of Illinois J.B. Pritzker will announce a "shelter-in-place" lockdown effective tomorrow.

[Shadowferal]

hmf...mortality rate has been pretty damn low in the US so far.

[Themius]

https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S...328-5/fulltext



68.000 deaths from the flu in a total of 9 months (3 years of winter season). Italy only.
So yeah, 500 deaths a day is fear-mongering.

You are aware that if as many people had corona you’d expect nearly 3x the death rate right?

[TigTone]

You are aware that if as many people had corona you’d expect nearly 3x the death rate right?

Math and statistics isn’t taught well around the world.

[Gaidax]

Those kits are faulty.

Nah, those kits seem to be fine. There was some pissing contest about how kits are not in shortage anyway, but this seems to have cleared up and these will be used just fine.

They target another 1 million kits from various locations far east.

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hmf...mortality rate has been pretty damn low in the US so far.

It really depends on whether healthcare system functions or not. US has a ton of ICUs, so I imagine they manage to save plenty.

We, over here, have 0 deaths total much thanks to ICUs literally fighting to keep people alive. There is a 88 years old woman that was reported critical and they managed to hold her together so far and couple more people who are ventilated and put into artificial coma.

That said, our healthcare system had years of neglect and fighting tooth and nail for budget, so the relatively decent statistic is mostly because our government managed to not fuck this up and started various levels lock down among the first countries that did it, shocking flash of competence considering the last decade track record.

If we take Italy where healthcare system simply collapsed - they have staggering mortality rate closing to 10%, simply because they can't handle the amount of cases and are forced to let some people die.

[alexw]

hmf...mortality rate has been pretty damn low in the US so far.

Because it takes 3-4 weeks to go from infection to death. The mortality rate is a lagging indicator.

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Nah, those kits seem to be fine. There was some pissing contest about how kits are not in shortage anyway, but this seems to have cleared up and these will be used just fine.

They target another 1 million kits from various locations far east.

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It really depends on whether healthcare system functions or not. US has a ton of ICUs, so I imagine they manage to save plenty.

We, over here, have 0 deaths total much thanks to ICUs literally fighting to keep people alive. There is a 88 years old woman that was reported critical and they managed to hold her together so far and couple more people who are ventilated and put into artificial coma.

That said, our healthcare system had years of neglect and fighting tooth and nail for budget, so the relatively decent statistic is mostly because our government managed to not fuck this up and started various levels lock down among the first countries that did it, shocking flash of competence considering the last decade track record.

If we take Italy where healthcare system simply collapsed - they have staggering mortality rate closing to 10%, simply because they can't handle the amount of cases and are forced to let some people die.

The rest of the world will go the way of Italy unfortunately. Its only a matter of time.

The places locking down now won't see the number of cases start to fall for 2 weeks and the numbers needing hospitalization for 4 weeks.

That's IF the lockdowns work and they can gain control of the situation.