1. #6881
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Reached the peak yet? Ours is estimated within 2 weeks.
    Does not seem like it just yet. The good news is that we have almost doubled amount of tests last 2 days, but the new cases are relatively same pace still. The bad news is that PM told us yesterday that if the current rate continues we are entering full complete lockdown in several days and in 15 days we will reach the point where hospitals ICUs will be overwhelmed.

    Here's a bit of charts - note that 26th is half day data yet.

    Cases updated now:



    Tests done per day:


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    Our stores are not closed, those who sell medicine and groceries are left open although restricted.
    @Gaidax We are also increasing our testing, what means we'll see sharp increases in our infections over the coming days.
    We are more optimistic about our capacity for now.
    Last edited by Acidbaron; 2020-03-26 at 12:28 PM.

  3. #6883
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Our stores are not closed, those who sell medicine and groceries are left open although restricted.
    Here all non-essential businesses are closed now. Supermarkets, pharmacies, clinics are still open.

    Yesterday we were ordered to stay in homes and are only allowed to move up to 100 meters from the home for walks in singles, ID on you is mandatory to verify. Public transport at 25% capacity. You can still drive a car (only one person per car allowed). You can go further for provision or medical resupply (so effectively a giant loophole there, as long as you don't go to "resupply" to the beach or park).

    There are still people who think this is some kind of joke, so I am almost sure that actual full lockdown will come in a matter of 2 days.
    Last edited by Gaidax; 2020-03-26 at 12:30 PM.

  4. #6884
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoltBlaster View Post
    In China there are no borders, yet they locked down everything.

    US politicians are just lazy and incompetent.

    es. Easily. Europe did, none of your excuses apply to Europe.
    What a Liar LMAO.
    Last edited by szechuan; 2020-03-26 at 12:35 PM.
    Americans are the Chinese of the west. The main reason people tolerate them is because they are too big to ignore.

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  5. #6885
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    And apparently Neither can Europe. How come I never hear you bashing any of the European Nations not on "Full Lockdown"?
    All those yellow and red cars mean exactly that.

  6. #6886
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulwind View Post
    All those yellow and red cars mean exactly that.
    It's Restricted, not Closed or Banned.

    What you/they were asking America to do was essentially CLOSING it's Borders State To State.
    Americans are the Chinese of the west. The main reason people tolerate them is because they are too big to ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    It's Restricted, not Closed or Banned.
    Restricted means only trucks with vital goods, for the most part.

  8. #6888
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulwind View Post
    Restricted means only trucks with vital goods, for the most part.
    Do you have proof of this?
    Americans are the Chinese of the west. The main reason people tolerate them is because they are too big to ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    It's Restricted, not Closed or Banned.

    What you/they were asking America to do was essentially CLOSING it's Borders State To State.
    Would not start with semantics when you don't know what restricted actually means in those cases.

  10. #6890
    The 45 years old one on life support without preconditions just died. Another casualty on top of it, this makes total deaths now - 8.

    One additional statistic severe cases:


  11. #6891
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Do you have proof of this?
    https://euobserver.com/coronavirus/147788

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/16/e...ntl/index.html

    https://the-slovenia.com/slovenia/eu...close-borders/

    Basically countries are allowing their people in, not out, and only trucks to move freely, and even then some restrict trucks carrying non-essential goods. Those are the red cars.

    The yellow cars imply roadblocks and police checking the temperature of everyone who goes through.

    Comparing any of this with the US not doing anything to stop the virus spreading from state to state is ridiculous.

  12. #6892
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Would not start with semantics when you don't know what restricted actually means in those cases.
    Fair enough, I already edited it out.
    Americans are the Chinese of the west. The main reason people tolerate them is because they are too big to ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Do you have proof of this?
    Or travelling to spots you need to be so for groceries, medical assistance. Some nations even have introduce travel limits as in you are allowed to travel n-kilometers from your residence.

    If you get caught driving around, doing something deemed non essential you can be fined up to 4K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    The 45 years old one on life support without preconditions just died. Another casualty on top of it, this makes total deaths now - 8.

    One additional statistic severe cases:

    That is the number of death's from the virus the state of Ohio has. So far. Out of about 500 or so confirmed cases.
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  15. #6895
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Or travelling to spots you need to be so for groceries, medical assistance. Some nations even have introduce travel limits as in you are allowed to travel n-kilometers from your residence.

    If you get caught driving around, doing something deemed non essential you can be fined up to 4K.
    And with variations depending on the country, most have enforced similar measures within their borders. So none of that "you used to have borders in Europe 60 years ago, so it's easier", either.

  16. #6896
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    That's only possible because they are working together with the surrounding provinces and as said it's only about tourism so not closing their borders.
    What?
    They are still controlled.
    And obviously they let their own people back in.
    And it would be stupid to stop trucks with food and stuff... Closing the border does not mean that your people should starve or don't have toilet paper anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Fair enough, I already edited it out.
    You may consider it as good as everything is closed down, i believe France, Spain and Italy are to the point that if you believe you can hop on a bicycle and go strolling around town you'll end up fined, same goes for running or jogging. Belgium did not impose a travel limit in that sense but it might, internal affairs minister said play time is over and fines will be enforced.

    Hoping in your car and going somewhere else out of town, is forbidden. Travelling with more than 2 is forbidden and you need to maintain physical distance at all times.

    I am in a border town and people travelling from the netherlands back and forth, have it rough there are daily checkpoints.

  18. #6898
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulwind View Post
    Comparing any of this with the US not doing anything to stop the virus spreading from state to state is ridiculous.
    Although you're right about it's Restrictions, it's also completely unfair to compare Country Borders to State by State borders.

    States are not Countries.
    Americans are the Chinese of the west. The main reason people tolerate them is because they are too big to ignore.

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  19. #6899
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Although you're right about it's Restrictions, it's also completely unfair to compare Country Borders to State by State borders.

    States are not Countries.
    We have this restrictions at some levels INSIDE our countries BETWEEN STATES.

    Your government is just useless, not only on the federal level but on many states levels, too...
    (some seem to do a good job)

  20. #6900
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Although you're right about it's Restrictions, it's also completely unfair to compare Country Borders to State by State borders.

    States are not Countries.
    In terms of jurisdiction, they can be compared with provinces, which are also being locked down in most countries using local forces.

    In terms of size, and manpower needed to enforce the lockdown, they can be compared with countries.

    There's an argument to be made about EU countries generally having a bigger police force than most US states. That's fair. But saying nothing is being done because nothing can be done without the federal police is simply false. It may be less effective, but it's certainly possible. And more corrupt and poor countries are doing more with less.

    Now, whether your state government dares to make a move without the federal government, and the repercussions of such action, particularly under your current command, is an entirely different problem. But that has nothing to do with what's possible, feasible or logical. That's just politics costing lives for no benefit.

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