1. #7661
    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    I think we can come up with a compelling reason for all of them to be infrastructure, but we really need to make the decision that maybe not all of our infrastructure needs should be met by everyone. I can hear capitalists screeching if the government picks and chooses which companies that serve the same function get to stay open, but this capitalist culture is half of the problem.
    Honestly, I can misconstrue very easily. However, I cannot call fast food essential. Its not healthy and is more expensive than getting something at the grocery store.

    I would classify Government services, auto repair, grocery stores, or any place that primarily sells pet food or medical supplies essential. Anything else, just get it shut down. Not even take out or delivery options any longer.

    Bigger problem is its coming down to the states to define these things and everyone has different definitions.
    Quote Originally Posted by scorpious1109 View Post
    Why the hell would you wait till after you did this to confirm the mortality rate of such action?

  2. #7662
    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    Meanwhile, I just went through the day's email, where pretty much every company on earth has reassured me that their personnel have been deemed essential to US infrastructure and are ready to serve me. Taco bell is essential to US infrastructure. My car's service shop is essential to US infrastructure. The pet food store is essential to US infrastucture. Social distancing only works when more than 20% of the population is doing it.

    Hell, even my own job got clearance for everyone to be considered essential personnel. No one here is essential to the infrastructure.
    I think many companies will see massive reduction in customers, so this "essential" situation will sort itself out.

    Got one of those emails as well from car repair shop that I used a while ago. They even offer new service: full interior disinfection.
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  3. #7663
    Quote Originally Posted by BoltBlaster View Post
    They even offer new service: full interior disinfection.
    I would question their qualification and capability to actually do that.

  4. #7664
    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    I would question their qualification and capability to actually do that.
    Definitely. Probably a glorified interior car wash for jacked up pricing.
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  5. #7665
    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    I just made 2 faceshields from a plastic bottle. Can they work?
    The purpose of face shield is to prevent aerosolised virus particles from getting into your eyes. They are not rocket science.

  6. #7666
    Is it a social or moral duty that compels us to save those who would die if nature were free to run its course? The coronavirus might act as a population stabiliser. Look at the massive spike in the global population over the last 100 years, it's insane!

  7. #7667
    Quote Originally Posted by ErrandRunner View Post
    Is it a social or moral duty that compels us to save those who would die if nature were free to run its course? The coronavirus might act as a population stabiliser. Look at the massive spike in the global population over the last 100 years, it's insane!
    If "nature were free to run its course" people like you would already have starved. Fuck off with that ecofascism. You want to sacrifice people? Get in line.

  8. #7668
    Quote Originally Posted by BoltBlaster View Post
    Definitely. Probably a glorified interior car wash for jacked up pricing.
    Sounds like a regular old detailing given a new name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErrandRunner View Post
    Is it a social or moral duty that compels us to save those who would die if nature were free to run its course? The coronavirus might act as a population stabiliser. Look at the massive spike in the global population over the last 100 years, it's insane!
    Never mind that birth rates below replacement in western countries suggesting the population will ultimately level off.

  9. #7669
    Quote Originally Posted by WintersLegion View Post
    Wouldn't that be a Feelionaire?
    roflmao good one.

  10. #7670
    Quote Originally Posted by ErrandRunner View Post
    Is it a social or moral duty that compels us to save those who would die if nature were free to run its course? The coronavirus might act as a population stabiliser. Look at the massive spike in the global population over the last 100 years, it's insane!
    Ohh fuck off. Thanos fanboys are insufferable. You don't stabilize human population by killing portions of it off, but by lowering the number of children people have.

  11. #7671
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    I'm going to ask this here because I need to know if this is a local or global issue with COVID-19 and hospitals. As many of you who have read my posts know my wife is a nurse here in Chicago. She handles IV Therapy in an outpatient chemotherapy ward. Today they decided to furlough a portion of the nurses in the ward as they rescheduled chemo treatments due to the sheer number of people in the waiting rooms who could die if infected by the coronavirus. My question here is has anyone else heard about that happening in their respective cities and countries where healthcare workers are being let go instead of moved to staff other more important areas?
    That doesn't make any sense they are sending nurses home who may have been potentially exposed because there is a severe lack of tests but I have not heard anything about letting people go. If anything they have lowered standards because of staffing issues, my brother oversees supply management for hospitals he is working 18-23 hours shifts nearly every day it's all hands on deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErrandRunner View Post
    Is it a social or moral duty that compels us to save those who would die if nature were free to run its course? The coronavirus might act as a population stabiliser. Look at the massive spike in the global population over the last 100 years, it's insane!
    By this logic, you should never bother rescuing people from earthquakes, floods, vulcano eruptions, massive forest fires and the like. After all, it's "nature being free to run its' course", why should you interfere with it?

    Not to mention that anyone claiming that millions of people dying might be in any way "stabilizing" should lead by example. Same with people previously claiming that "it's only 1%, gawd, what's the big deal". When juggling those numbers, always assume you might be one of the victims.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Ohh fuck off. Thanos fanboys are insufferable. You don't stabilize human population by killing portions of it off, but by lowering the number of children people have.
    What's "funny" is that they "forget" that doctors/nurses are on the frontline of this pandemic. This isn't just "oh, 1% will die but everything will be fine afterwards". Losing a significant number of medical personnel will affect medical care for other people, cascading into much higher numbers than "only" 1%.
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  13. #7673
    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    It's not the total amount of dead that is important right now. The real problem is the flooding of ICU's. Because that is happening / bound to happen. A "normal" flu is spread over a larger period.

    Over here they expect to flatten the curve in about a week. That means we might hit or exceed our ICU limit. Thank God our German neighbors are willing to take over some of our patients.
    Been paying attention to the numbers worldwide. Germany seems to be handling the pandemic fantastically well so far.

  14. #7674
    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    Been paying attention to the numbers worldwide. Germany seems to be handling the pandemic fantastically well so far.
    I'm german and i can tell you we're not. We've been exceptionally lucky until now, but our government has been reacting too little and too late. Looks like our systems are slightly more resilient to this crisis, but let's refrain from judging until all of this is over. The worst is yet to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Italy has 10k dead. Worst case scenario is that 60k die in that country from that fucking virus. That would be 0,1% of italy total population.
    Its fucking awful, still. Everyone of them had a story to share, and that fucking plague robbed us of the opportunity to hear them.
    Humans die every day from hunger, war, disease, accidents etc.
    Most of us don't give a hoot because they're typically in some far away country out of sight.

    Suddenly, the same happens on our doorstep and we all panic and cry: "awful!"

    While acknowledge that it is a sad thing for people directly involved (victims, next of kin), forgive me if I fail to empathize with that kind of hypocrisy on a global/state level.

    This will blow over, we will survive and most of us will go back to being our decadent western selves soon enough.

  16. #7676
    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    If "nature were free to run its course" people like you would already have starved. Fuck off with that ecofascism. You want to sacrifice people? Get in line.
    It always amuses me how these types are only really up for other people dying. When it comes to them, or people they care about, their convictions waver.
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    feminists they always look like a hippo thats rolled in dogshit and then hit with a nuclear weapon and lived

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    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    I'm german and i can tell you we're not. We've been exceptionally lucky until now, but our government has been reacting too little and too late. Looks like our systems are slightly more resilient to this crisis, but let's refrain from judging until all of this is over. The worst is yet to come.
    We only had 1 week of lockdown, it'll be 2 more until we see it's effects.

  18. #7678
    People tend to be very bad at prioritizing crisis issues. Over a million deaths from car crashes per year. Imagine the type of quarantining that would be pushed if that were a virus instead of a car. I know the response, "cars are necessary". Yes, so is keeping the world running. Society has basically decided that the impact of the world ceasing to use cars would be more detrimental than the deaths from cars.
    I'm not really saying anything about how this all should be handled. Just, barring something crazy happening, people are going to start going out again in a month or 2 if nothing changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dormie View Post
    People tend to be very bad at prioritizing crisis issues. Over a million deaths from car crashes per year in the US.
    A million crashes but "only" 35K deaths/annum in the USA due to traffic, if I remember correctly. Corona will surpass that number rather quickly if ICUs are overwhelmed.

  20. #7680
    Oh yea, that was global, I just went with the little google synopsis. I thought that didn't seem right. Points about the same though.

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