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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    I will start worrying if within 2 weeks there is no slowdown of infection rates in Europe or at least parts of it. Lockdowns have to start having some effect soon... no?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Guilliman has no hat though. He has a giant flaming sword to compensate.
    No hat but the size of those pauldrons!
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    What if the 'sky-is-falling' coronavirus models are wrong?

    It was a world-is-ending projection two weeks ago of as many as 500,000 dead in the United Kingdom and as many as 2.2 million dead in the United States, offered up by Professor Neil Ferguson and his team at the Imperial College London, that fired up the media’s panic-machine. However, overlooked in the hyper-reaction was that this was an unlikely worst-case scenario, based on nothing being done to stop the virus’s spread. And Ferguson (who reportedly contracted the virus himself) subsequently cut the projected number of British deaths in half as the government there ramped up its response — and has since drastically scaled it back yet again, to less than 20,000 deaths in Britain. As the National Review correctly pointed out, “Models like this will always turn out to be wrong in some way or other, because they rely on very strong assumptions about aspects of the disease we haven’t thoroughly studied yet. If nothing else, the original Imperial model will be obsolete soon … ."

    Let’s hope and pray that these three and the other pragmatic analysts now joining them are indeed correct about the outcome of all this, particularly because the draconian measures now in place could create another health catastrophe, if lost jobs and bankruptcies lead to poverty, hopelessness and increased suicides.

    Whatever the correct projections turn out to be, tens of thousands of people are likely to die and millions more are paying an unimaginable price. Politics and partisanship should play no role in this— only truth and indisputable, real evidence.

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    So I'll admit I'm not the most politically literate person. Can someone explain to me why someone would choose to ignore that part of the bill if he wasn't doing something shady?

    Regardless I'm glad Americans will get some form of relief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Everything has a cost-benefit analysis.
    The reason the west has been relatively lax in its responsive is because the cost is relatively low. Yes that is a terrible thing to say but welcome to reality.

    If something more deadly brakes out the potential cost is higher and therefor its more warranted to use stricter measures sooner.

    Nope, because that capacity is expensive and does nothing 99.999999999999% of the time.
    Hospitals have capacity for what they usually require and a little bit on top for safety. Going beyond that is simply not worth the money, not unless governments step in to fund it and carry long term maintenance costs.
    well if this leads to a single payer system (something that wouldn't shock me) it would be easy to tie it in.. If it doesn't the cost of procedures go up to cover the added space. and someone better with math can work out the ratios needed to handle a surge long enough to stand up emergency places. cause obviously imo it would be less than 1 bed for 2 people or even 4. I have no idea what the numbers are now, but in places like NY they seem vastly out of wack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    What if the 'sky-is-falling' coronavirus models are wrong?

    Let’s hope and pray that these three and the other pragmatic analysts now joining them are indeed correct about the outcome of all this, particularly because the draconian measures now in place could create another health catastrophe, if lost jobs and bankruptcies lead to poverty, hopelessness and increased
    Hope and pray sounds scientific

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    after aiming for heard immunity and losing precious time the UK gov now wants to sell the idea that any number below 20k deaths is something worth celebrating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    Hope and pray sounds scientific
    Fsr better to have faith and hope than the ever present despair and hopelessness that kills a person halfway.
    Gotta give people something to keep going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedra82 View Post
    after aiming for heard immunity and losing precious time the UK gov now wants to sell the idea that any number below 20k deaths is something worth celebrating
    Consider that their initial model had over half a million people dead.

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    if i'm not mistaken the model with half a million deaths was the result of a "no lockdown" scenario so it was bound to change as british politicians got a much needed wake up call

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedra82 View Post
    if i'm not mistaken the model with half a million deaths was the result of a "no lockdown" scenario so it was bound to change as british politicians got a much needed wake up call
    This. It’s almost comical watching their weird flailing in this thread.
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    Italy numbers:

    Cases: +5974 on 35447 tests for 16.9% positive rate.
    Deaths: +889
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    What if the 'sky-is-falling' coronavirus models are wrong?

    It was a world-is-ending projection two weeks ago of as many as 500,000 dead in the United Kingdom and as many as 2.2 million dead in the United States, offered up by Professor Neil Ferguson and his team at the Imperial College London, that fired up the media’s panic-machine. However, overlooked in the hyper-reaction was that this was an unlikely worst-case scenario, based on nothing being done to stop the virus’s spread. And Ferguson (who reportedly contracted the virus himself) subsequently cut the projected number of British deaths in half as the government there ramped up its response — and has since drastically scaled it back yet again, to less than 20,000 deaths in Britain. As the National Review correctly pointed out, “Models like this will always turn out to be wrong in some way or other, because they rely on very strong assumptions about aspects of the disease we haven’t thoroughly studied yet. If nothing else, the original Imperial model will be obsolete soon … ."

    Let’s hope and pray that these three and the other pragmatic analysts now joining them are indeed correct about the outcome of all this, particularly because the draconian measures now in place could create another health catastrophe, if lost jobs and bankruptcies lead to poverty, hopelessness and increased suicides.

    Whatever the correct projections turn out to be, tens of thousands of people are likely to die and millions more are paying an unimaginable price. Politics and partisanship should play no role in this— only truth and indisputable, real evidence.
    What are you trying to achieve by posting clickbait articles that contradict themselves in their own text?
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    I will start worrying if within 2 weeks there is no slowdown of infection rates in Europe or at least parts of it. Lockdowns have to start having some effect soon... no?
    They already are though, what countries are you looking at? If you are looking at the Southern nations they were the first to get hit and acted too late, the rest learned from it and so the further north you get and the harsher and faster the measures came the quicker it took effect.

    You have to take note that this is not a disease that hits you instantly, it can take up to three weeks to fully hit you. During that time you can get better for a brief period and become even sicker afterwards. Hospitalization for that reason is kept at two weeks give or take.

    Belgium it is slowing down, still increasing but not as fast as elsewhere, we were quick to act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedra82 View Post
    if i'm not mistaken the model with half a million deaths was the result of a "no lockdown" scenario so it was bound to change as british politicians got a much needed wake up call
    Well the whole "omg omg we're all goimg to die" attitude was based on nobody doing anything. Now that governments are responding no one seems to want to be hopeful...they seem more desirous of being locked in a depressed state with their lockdown which boggles the mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    What are you trying to achieve by posting clickbait articles that contradict themselves in their own text?
    I believe he is an american and he is finding articles to cling onto that none of this will get as bad as it gets. He was one of those people in this thread that did not find it worth taking serious to the point lockdowns are fully worth it.

    I mean if we look at France now it does as predicted take 3 weeks to fully come into full swing. So his opinion on this matter will change when his surroundings start to change, there is intentional confusion being created in the US by the White House to down play this, as the politicians are scared it might hurt their personal income and wealth.

    Something we could nothing understand as this happening on European soil would lead to a very bad ending for said politicians, with the best possible outcome jail.

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    hundreds of people are going to die even with a full powered lockdown, I see no reason to cheer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Well the whole "omg omg we're all goimg to die" attitude was based on nobody doing anything. Now that governments are responding no one seems to want to be hopeful...they seem more desirous of being locked in a depressed state with their lockdown which boggles the mind.
    The time to respond was three weeks ago when the US first got hit in your case, you are far too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Well the whole "omg omg we're all goimg to die" attitude was based on nobody doing anything. Now that governments are responding no one seems to want to be hopeful...they seem more desirous of being locked in a depressed state with their lockdown which boggles the mind.
    several states governors are still dragging their heels or refusing to do anything about it as all. mississippi florida and texas come to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    The time to respond was three weeks ago when the US first got hit in your case, you are far too late.
    I know you want to believe that. And I think that's a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowmouse View Post
    Although human to human transmission seems rare and this appears less deadly than SARS, let's hope this doesn't get out of hand.
    First time in this thread.....



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