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    More events are coming out that China is indeed not telling the truth about their numbers.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...f-virus-s-toll

    Outside one funeral home, trucks shipped in about 2,500 urns on both Wednesday and Thursday, according to Chinese media outlet Caixin. Another picture published by Caixin showed 3,500 urns stacked on the ground inside. It’s unclear how many of the urns had been filled.


    According to Chinese government figures, 2,535 people in Wuhan have died of the virus. The announcement that a lockdown in place since January would be lifted came after China said its tally of new cases had hit zero and stepped up diplomatic outreach to other countries hard hit by the virus, sending some of them medical supplies.

    So the numbers are not adding up, and there's this:

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    And there are also reports that show that cellphone users have been dropped by a significant amount over the last three months. So either there's a new trend in China of going "offline" or a large part of these people are no longer alive.

    All their actions are being reported on like moving deploying more incinerators, with each passing week more of what China is covering up is coming back to the surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Karl View Post
    That article I and struggle to call it that rather then a tabloid has about as much science in it as a flat earthers thesis paper.

    One of his counter points is it attacks humans so well it can't be man made....
    The disease is created by natural evolution no evidence has been found to support any other theory, if you want to believe in crackpot theories go ahead and join that club. I am certain tinfoil unlike toilet paper is not in short supply.

    You don't find forbes trust worthy enough and you want something scientific?

    Here you go, have at it https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    More events are coming out that China is indeed not telling the truth about their numbers.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...f-virus-s-toll

    Outside one funeral home, trucks shipped in about 2,500 urns on both Wednesday and Thursday, according to Chinese media outlet Caixin. Another picture published by Caixin showed 3,500 urns stacked on the ground inside. It’s unclear how many of the urns had been filled.


    According to Chinese government figures, 2,535 people in Wuhan have died of the virus. The announcement that a lockdown in place since January would be lifted came after China said its tally of new cases had hit zero and stepped up diplomatic outreach to other countries hard hit by the virus, sending some of them medical supplies.

    So the numbers are not adding up, and there's this:

    Tweet link



    And there are also reports that show that cellphone users have been dropped by a significant amount over the last three months. So either there's a new trend in China of going "offline" or a large part of these people are no longer alive.

    All their actions are being reported on like moving deploying more incinerators, with each passing week more of what China is covering up is coming back to the surface.
    The urns are more of an indication because cellphone users dropping is going to happen all over the place as people lose their jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    You don't find forbes trust worthy enough
    An FYI, anything that is forbes.com/sites is just a Forbes-hosted blog, not anything coming from the actual magazine.

    As a general rule, such blogs should be treated as if the site is wordpress.com rather than forbes.com.

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  4. #7924
    World and also Chinese people have seen that CCP is just a paper tiger.
    Chinese virus bent them over. People under quarantine are rioting lately.
    Those dictators will pay a price soon or later for hiding their crime.
    After all they did, i believe this virus is their own doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    More events are coming out that China is indeed not telling the truth about their numbers.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...f-virus-s-toll

    Outside one funeral home, trucks shipped in about 2,500 urns on both Wednesday and Thursday, according to Chinese media outlet Caixin. Another picture published by Caixin showed 3,500 urns stacked on the ground inside. It’s unclear how many of the urns had been filled.
    Wuhan is a 10-million city, which have been locked down for two months.

    A rough estimate gives that about 15k people normally die in that time-frame, so seeing 3k urns here and there isn't that odd.

    It's possible that there were additional deaths and a few more cases nowadays - but not massive amounts since the restrictions are now lifted - which doesn't make sense if it would spread, and people in the west would notice that friends in China have gone silent.

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    Just because you shouldn't trust PRC, isn't a reason to trust her instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Well, I've just been tested positive, twice. The upside is, I get 3 weeks of paid leave. The downside is, no chance to see my family for 21 days. 21 days of isolation, here we go.
    Yikes, hang in there. Wish you the best!

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    The NGO Médecins sans frontières/Doctors without borders, traditionaly providing medical aid in conflict zones and in countries affected by endemic diseases, is now deploying in western Europe.

    MSF has thus opened missions in Italy, Spain and France, and will take the stage in Geneva on Monday. Doctors specializing in the Ebola virus will be seconded to the Geneva University Hospitals (HUG), while others will step up aid to vulnerable populations.
    IRCC director worried about future of humanitarian aid.

    But Yves Daccord expressed his doubts: "What worries me is not the short term but the medium and long term". With the economic reconfigurations that the countries of the North are likely to experience, "arbitrations will have to be made, and I am worried that they will not be in favor of humanitarian aid".
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    ~ Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang on Essays on Mind and Matter

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    At last night's government, the government decided, among other things, that purchases in stores would be reserved exclusively for vulnerable groups such as the disabled, the elderly and pregnant women between 8am and 10am on Monday. Seniors will only be allowed to make purchases at this time interval.

    By limiting the time specifically for vulnerable groups, the government wants to further protect these groups by separating them from the rest of the consumer group, they explained in a post-government communication.

    The ordinance comes into effect on Monday.

    ..................wait...realy......but old people are slow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Well, I've just been tested positive, twice. The upside is, I get 3 weeks of paid leave. The downside is, no chance to see my family for 21 days. 21 days of isolation, here we go.

    And I might have had a drink to many. Fuck this virus. And, @Gaidax, fuck China. I was way to laid back a few days back in my response, and you were right. God damn criminal what they did. They're not going to pay for it but they sure as hell should.

    God, I hate feeling this helpless.
    I hope you'll be okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    At last night's government, the government decided, among other things, that purchases in stores would be reserved exclusively for vulnerable groups such as the disabled, the elderly and pregnant women between 8am and 10am on Monday. Seniors will only be allowed to make purchases at this time interval.
    Some disabled might be in the risk group - but I don't see that all are in the risk group; instead there are specific diseases that are not disabling but still major risk factors - which makes it more complicated as you cannot easily see if they should be allowed to shop. It isn't clear that pregnant women are a risk-group (there are some suspicion that it might risk the fetus - but nothing confirmed yet as far as I know).

    And the risk is still that as soon as some in the selected group becomes infected they will still go to the stores at that time and it will still spread, and with just 2 hours for shopping for all the elderly seems as if there will be queues increasing the risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Well, I've just been tested positive, twice. The upside is, I get 3 weeks of paid leave. The downside is, no chance to see my family for 21 days. 21 days of isolation, here we go.
    Hope you get well soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Well, I've just been tested positive, twice. The upside is, I get 3 weeks of paid leave. The downside is, no chance to see my family for 21 days. 21 days of isolation, here we go.

    And I might have had a drink to many. Fuck this virus. And, @Gaidax, fuck China. I was way to laid back a few days back in my response, and you were right. God damn criminal what they did. They're not going to pay for it but they sure as hell should.

    God, I hate feeling this helpless.
    Get well soon.

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  12. #7932
    Germany is catching up to Italy and Spain in terms of infection rate..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    Germany is catching up to Italy and Spain in terms of infection rate..
    Germany is catching up on Italy in terms of confirmed cases, but are far behind in terms of deaths - and it's not just that Germany is a week behind Italy; Germany today has the same number of confirmed as confirmed cases as Italy had about a week ago - but Italy then had 8 times as many deaths then as Germany has now.

    Germany is not catching up on Spain in terms of confirmed cases - as Spain has been 10-50% ahead in terms of confirmed cases the last two weeks (variance likely due to differences in reporting), before that Germany was ahead.
    Spain also has an order of magnitude more deaths than Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Well, I've just been tested positive, twice. The upside is, I get 3 weeks of paid leave. The downside is, no chance to see my family for 21 days. 21 days of isolation, here we go.

    And I might have had a drink to many. Fuck this virus. And, @Gaidax, fuck China. I was way to laid back a few days back in my response, and you were right. God damn criminal what they did. They're not going to pay for it but they sure as hell should.

    God, I hate feeling this helpless.
    Should US pay for millions of native Americans killed, or like 200 years of attacking other countries 99% of Americans can't even find on map and killing millions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    At last night's government, the government decided, among other things, that purchases in stores would be reserved exclusively for vulnerable groups such as the disabled, the elderly and pregnant women between 8am and 10am on Monday. Seniors will only be allowed to make purchases at this time interval.

    By limiting the time specifically for vulnerable groups, the government wants to further protect these groups by separating them from the rest of the consumer group, they explained in a post-government communication.

    The ordinance comes into effect on Monday.

    ..................wait...realy......but old people are slow
    I think that is a great idea. Walmart has dedicated 6 - 7 am each Tuesday for such. But only one hour. That is not enough and I feel they should be doing it for two hours every day of the week. I would approve if they made it a temporary law here in the US for every grocery store to do during this pandemic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markos82 View Post
    Should US pay for millions of native Americans killed, or like 200 years of attacking other countries 99% of Americans can't even find on map and killing millions?
    What does his post have to do with the US and native Americans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    Germany is catching up to Italy and Spain in terms of infection rate..
    In their case it's due to rigorous testing which is a good thing, Italy, Spain and the US are rationing tests.

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    China is already opening up their so called animal markets again, just a matter of time before we get more surprised from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    China is already opening up their so called animal markets again, just a matter of time before we get more surprised from there.
    https://www.businessinsider.nl/china...onal=true&r=US
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    What does his post have to do with the US and native Americans?
    He is blaming China for the virus outbreak, my question is should entire world ( almost) blame America for millions killed by their bombs, attacks, covert Cia operations...

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