Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[Gorsameth]

well since she spit in the guard's face....they could have the woman and father charged together on charges of terrorism for spreading coronavirus in which case the death penalty would be back on the table as federal courts have the option of the death penalty regardless of state.

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yes let's gamble your loved ones are going to live. what a horrible person you are. it's like playing russian roulette with a loaded gun and 2 of the six chambers are loaded and there's no hospitals that can treat gunshot wounds.

We had some people purposefully couch at others in the early days but I haven't heard much of it after the first few were quickly arrested and given several weeks of prison time.

[Trunksee]

well since she spit in the guard's face....they could have the woman and father charged together on charges of terrorism for spreading coronavirus in which case the death penalty would be back on the table as federal courts have the option of the death penalty regardless of state.

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yes let's gamble your loved ones are going to live. what a horrible person you are. it's like playing russian roulette with a loaded gun and 2 of the six chambers are loaded and there's no hospitals that can treat gunshot wounds.

But its also their freedom to choose as a human right if they want to see you. If they are willing to take the risk, and are of sound mind to do so, who are you to tell them no? If you want to be by someones side while they pass and you are willing to take the risk, why are people being denied access to see loved ones? Yall really enjoy being part of a communist state bit have such hatred for Russia.

[Draco-Onis]

But its also their freedom to choose as a human right if they want to see you. If they are willing to take the risk, and are of sound mind to do so, who are you to tell them no? If you want to be by someones side while they pass and you are willing to take the risk, why are people being denied access to see loved ones? Yall really enjoy being part of a communist state bit have such hatred for Russia.

Because when they get infected it affects more than just them so their "freedom" means spreading a highly contagious disease especially to the people taking care of them. Most freedoms get limited when it involves fucking up other people's lives.

[Shadowferal]

I live in Michigan. Haven't heard of this and can't find any report from a reputable source.

I too am looking for a more substantial link.
Hmf...

[Trunksee]

Because when they get infected it affects more than just them so their "freedom" means spreading a highly contagious disease especially to the people taking care of them. Most freedoms get limited when it involves fucking up other people's lives.

Everything you do has a chance to fuck up other peoples lives. How did we let our government take away our right to spend one of our loveed ones last moments with them? When did we accept that the hospitals with no loved ones around to advocate for them just accepted they have their best interest in mind?

[Trassk]

Its called playing devils advocate. They also could survive the infection, so you would be willing to give up anytime you have now with them to create memories with them, to even spend their last moments with them because they could get it whether or not you see them but you will never see them again at all if they do.

So your not willing to stay inside for a few months along with everyone else and insure a decrease in the spread of the virus, something places like South Korea have done so and reduced the spread, because you feel its more important to pretend things are normal and 'it's just a little virus'.

Seeing the kinds of degenerates on the news going against social distancing is one thing, but having one here us just glorious!

Have you arranged for your family to have private rooms when they become sick? I wonder if that extends to all the people you pass in the street.

Oh and you might want to arrange a basket of oranges for the old lady who cant have a bed because they ran out when your taking one up instead, I'm sure that'll make everything better.

[Draco-Onis]

Everything you do has a chance to fuck up other peoples lives. How did we let our government take away our right to spend one of our loveed ones last moments with them? When did we accept that the hospitals with no loved ones around to advocate for them just accepted they have their best interest in mind?

Let me make this clear THIS IS AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE not your guns, you will spread it that's a fact.

[Poopymonster]

Everything you do has a chance to fuck up other peoples lives. How did we let our government take away our right to spend one of our loveed ones last moments with them? When did we accept that the hospitals with no loved ones around to advocate for them just accepted they have their best interest in mind?

After some reading and research, I cannot find this "Right" as enumerated in our Holy Documents from the Birth of Our Great and Glorious Country (Amen). Or the 27 patches due to bugs in the original code. Please try again.

[Daelak]

Its called playing devils advocate. They also could survive the infection, so you would be willing to give up anytime you have now with them to create memories with them, to even spend their last moments with them because they could get it whether or not you see them but you will never see them again at all if they do.

Surviving the infection means you live with permanent lung, heart, and/or brain damage. You would be subject to physical therapy and mechanical assistance with breathing, heart beats for the rest of your life. Stop talking and start reading.

[Magical Mudcrab]

We had some people purposefully couch at others in the early days but I haven't heard much of it after the first few were quickly arrested and given several weeks of prison time.

To be honest, intentionally coughing or spitting on someone during the pandemic should be considered a form of domestic terrorism; doing so is essentially saying "I'm trying to infect you with a virus that could kill you or your family," whether you have it or not.

[D3thray]

Surviving the infection means you live with permanent lung, heart, and/or brain damage. You would be subject to physical therapy and mechanical assistance with breathing, heart beats for the rest of your life. Stop talking and start reading.

What are you even talking about. This isn’t the outcome for the majority of cases or even a large minority. Stop talking nonsense.

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To be honest, intentionally coughing or spitting on someone during the pandemic should be considered a form of domestic terrorism; doing so is essentially saying "I'm trying to infect you with a virus that could kill you or your family," whether you have it or not.

People have been convicted for intentionally spreading AIDS, same principle I’d imagine.

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After some reading and research, I cannot find this "Right" as enumerated in our Holy Documents from the Birth of Our Great and Glorious Country (Amen). Or the 27 patches due to bugs in the original code. Please try again.

Neither are parental rights but that’s also a thing. Don’t be dense.

[Strawberry]

Surviving the infection means you live with permanent lung, heart, and/or brain damage. You would be subject to physical therapy and mechanical assistance with breathing, heart beats for the rest of your life. Stop talking and start reading.

Are you talking about the whole population or just people at risk who got hit badly by the infection?
Because I highly doubt your post if you refer to everyone who got sick to covid-19.

[Daelak]

What are you even talking about. This isn’t the outcome for the majority of cases or even a large minority. Stop talking nonsense.

There isn't enough information on the recovered cases to know exactly the continuing cost of care and physical therapy to the severe scarring of people's lungs. Long term debilitating effects of clot formation and low oxygen levels are not known, however in line with other diseases that attack upper respiratory systems, most of the recovered cases will have perpetual healthcare needs brought upon by this virus.

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Are you talking about the whole population or just people at risk who got hit badly by the infection?
Because I highly doubt your post if you refer to everyone who got sick to covid-19.

A certain percentage of recovered cases. The world does not yet know the full extent, however medical experts are already preparing for long term care and therapy for these recovered cases.

[Trunksee]

Surviving the infection means you live with permanent lung, heart, and/or brain damage. You would be subject to physical therapy and mechanical assistance with breathing, heart beats for the rest of your life. Stop talking and start reading.

No it doesnt. If it effected every person this way yes i would advocate for a full lock down, but big news for you the majority of people who contract this dont even know they have it. The only reason they know its not the common cold of flu is because we test for it. Now yes it effects a very small percentage of healthy people in a severe way. You issue must be as with many people here they have underlying conditions. If you dont then there is a very minute chance that you will die or even end up hospitalized or you may catch it and never even know you had it.

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There isn't enough information on the recovered cases to know exactly the continuing cost of care and physical therapy to the severe scarring of people's lungs. Long term debilitating effects of clot formation and low oxygen levels are not known, however in line with other diseases that attack upper respiratory systems, most of the recovered cases will have perpetual healthcare needs brought upon by this virus.

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A certain percentage of recovered cases. The world does not yet know the full extent, however medical experts are already preparing for long term care and therapy for these recovered cases.

If the antibody tests are even close to reliable 40x more people have had it than previously known. Meaning many do not even have symptoms or are very minor. Meaning your fear mongering.

[PhaelixWW]

Americans are taking it well :

Dollar store security guard tells woman she can't come in without a mask. She spits in his face. He ejects her from store. She comes back with her dad. Dad shoots the guard in the head and kills him.

https://www.michigancapitolconfident...e-mask-dispute

Must be something in the water...

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You dispute that there is any over reporting? More and more evidence to the contrary is coming to light, an absolute scandal in the making...

Pennsylvania Forced To Remove Hundreds Of Deaths From Coronavirus Death Count. The PA health department decided to include “probable” coronavirus deaths, or an assumed COVID-19-related death without testing for the virus

“New York City added a huge number of deaths to the total number of deaths caused by the coronavirus after deciding to include over 3,700 victims who had not tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have the virus because of their symptoms and medical history.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/penns..._hsmi=86963608

Did you even read your source?

The Pennsylvania thing was a glitch, since corrected. The New York deaths are legitimate probables.

It is clearly happening everywhere, some include probably a CV19 death, some possibly a CV19 death and I bet some even go so far as to include "highly unlikely a CV19 death but stick it down anyway we could do with the extra coronavirus bonus bunce from the government."

And now you're in fantasy, make-believe land, where your hyperbolic imagination has taken flight and invented scenarios that don't exist just to try to prop up your failed argument.

There's no evidence this is "clearly happening everywhere". And the fact that you think it does really indicates to everyone just how little you are in touch with reality.

Advocating for an end to lockdown will save many more from starvation by economic destitution than me sending a tin of beans to the needy.

Except that since nobody is listening to your "advocating", it will be of less effect than said "tin of beans". You're literally wasting your breath instead of being productive, and being proud of it.

[Endus]

But its also their freedom to choose as a human right if they want to see you.

Literally not a human right. Which is why governments can quarantine infectious people.

If you want to be by someones side while they pass and you are willing to take the risk, why are people being denied access to see loved ones? Yall really enjoy being part of a communist state bit have such hatred for Russia.

This has fuck-all to do with communist economics. If you mean "totalitarianism", use that word, not "communism".

Here's a hot tip; it's just as easy (arguably easier) for capitalist societies to become totalitarian.

Everything you do has a chance to fuck up other peoples lives. How did we let our government take away our right to spend one of our loveed ones last moments with them?

Again, literally not a right anyone actually has.

You don't get to just make shit up and pretend it's a right, dude.

If the antibody tests are even close to reliable 40x more people have had it than previously known. Meaning many do not even have symptoms or are very minor. Meaning your fear mongering.

No, it means you're playing down the danger posed by this virus, and the net effect is that you're trying to get millions more people killed than would otherwise happen.

Even if those figures are correct, it doesn't change the death count. It changes the infectious capacity. And given that we've seen little evidence of any lasting immunity, if this goes unchecked, we'll pretty quickly hit a point where the entire population is continually sick with this virus, with brief windows when you recover before your antibody count declines and you catch it again. And each time, the virus will do a little more damage, and render you more vulnerable to more severe outcomes the next time around.

You're arguing for a world where everyone is sick with this thing for months out of every year, forever, for the rest of their lives, and every time they catch it, it's an escalating chance that this'll be the time it kills them. It's far more virulent than standard influenza, and has a higher mortality rate. This is not a good outcome, and asking more people to die because fuck it, you want some minor comforts and conveniences, that's misanthropic in the extreme.

And that's presuming you're right about everything. If you're not, it's so much worse.

[PhaelixWW]

If the antibody tests are even close to reliable 40x more people have had it than previously known.

Closer to 10x, not 40x, sorry.

[Zequill]

Surviving the infection means you live with permanent lung, heart, and/or brain damage. You would be subject to physical therapy and mechanical assistance with breathing, heart beats for the rest of your life. Stop talking and start reading.

I was wondering where I would find the worst baseless fear-mongering spread of misinformation about this virus, I wonder why I didn't though about MMO-C first. When it's well know that most people get the virus 0 symptom, only someone who frequent this forum often will say such idiocy.

[tehealadin]

Everything you do has a chance to fuck up other peoples lives. How did we let our government take away our right to spend one of our loveed ones last moments with them? When did we accept that the hospitals with no loved ones around to advocate for them just accepted they have their best interest in mind?

Whilst our actions can have unintended consequences, there is probability attached to them, as such most of us can go about our lives without fear of accidentally ruining the life of someone else.

Most of us accepted that some people now have to die alone because letting people in, with an infectious disease being spread around, could mean that people who might not die will. You are aware that this is infectious? And not just a little. You let a family in to spend time with a loved one on the way out with COVID, and there is a realistic chance that one or more of them could be in that death bed in a few weeks time, or spread it to someone else and their family have to go through it. Not to mention that people going in could be carriers, putting others in the hospital at risk.

No one is limiting access to hospitals out of spite. The people in hospitals are aware of the impact this has on people, but recognise that it is a necessity to diminish the spread of the virus. The people who work in these places, the more folk that come in, the greater the chance that they get infected. It is not unreasonable to seek to protect front line healthcare workers as much as possible, nor is it an act of tyranny.

[Adam Jensen]

This has fuck-all to do with communist economics. If you mean "totalitarianism", use that word, not "communism".

Here's a hot tip; it's just as easy (arguably easier) for capitalist societies to become totalitarian.]

Just once, just fucking once, I want to meet a conservative who actually knows what "communism" is.