Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[kamuimac]

Merkel just admited that they are estimating that 70-80 % of germans will catch the virus.

if germans admit they are unable to contain it lets be real no country can viably contain it.

[lonely zergling]

Merkel just admited that they are estimating that 70-80 % of germans will catch the virus.

if germans admit they are unable to contain it lets be real no country can viably contain it.

If anything germany is a very bad example of how to handle this. I'm sure pretty much any country can and will do better. Reacting too slow and soft.. not banning mass events / travel from italy / china. Letting carnival events happen when it already had hit italy was just a joke.

[Gray_Matter]

Merkel just admited that they are estimating that 70-80 % of germans will catch the virus.

if germans admit they are unable to contain it lets be real no country can viably contain it.

The battle isn't to stop people catching the virus. That's close to impossible unless you shut all of your borders and quarantine everyone. The battle is to delay the spread so the medical infrastructure can manage the load.

[PrimiOne]

The battle isn't to stop people catching the virus. That's close to impossible unless you shut all of your borders and quarantine everyone. The battle is to delay the spread so the medical infrastructure can manage the load.

I already explained that some pages ago but some people don't seen to get the concept.
Let's see if an image is more descriptive:

[ParanoiD84]

4-5k dead so far world wide is still a very low number when you realise how many people there are, some 400 infected here but no deaths so far just a matter of time though. Also mostly elderly and weak that dies.

Wonder how the planet would handle a new black death scenario if it's that hard to stop this one.

Would probably be good for the planet but humanity would be fucked seeing how many people we are compared to back then.

[zenkai]

what did I say that was wrong, I'd love to hear the "correction".

you left out the part about ghosting most threads the second you are proven wrong, hypocrite.

Lol bullshit, if I am ever proven wrong I admit being wrong because unlike a lot of people here I man up to my mistakes. If I stop repying to a thread it's because I already made my point and I am not going to argue in circles. That's some flat earther logic right there "oh look he stopped replying to me guess he finally realizes I am right the earth is flat"

[Fuiking]

And voila, a few newspaper blaming Noord-Brabant .. comments are all discrimating and rascistic against the ''brabo's''. Great. People losing there mind.

[Forogil]

*did read something called canine coronavirus..but not sure what that is to be honest*

A coronavirus infecting dogs, of course.

COVID-19 is caused by one specific new coronavirus, in humans other coronaviruses cause SARS and some cases of the common cold (but most cases of the common cold are caused by other viruses). Other coronaviruses also exist in animals (bats, alpacas, dogs, birds) etc. Generally they don't spread between animals, and all coronaviruses have some similarities - but also large differences (so it's not strange that mild cases of Covid-19 sound similar to the common cold; the difference is that some cases are not that mild). Oh, and some canine coronaviruses infect puppies more than adult dogs.

[Vorkreist]

2-4% is with proper medical care. If you're getting enough cases that ICUs and hospitals are being overwhelmed (which won't take much given how close to capacity a lot of hospitals run), the mortality rate is going to rise, potentially into double digits (i.e. literally decimate).

Thats why so many deaths started rolling from Italy. The hospitals couldn't properly handle all the infected people once it went over a certain number.
If you could have an infinite number of hospital beds with an infinite number of assisted ventilation machines plus an infinite number or nurses there would hardly be any deaths but we don't live in that fantasy scenario. The more will get infected the bigger the general clusterfuck. Death rate will skyrocket just because there won't be even basic medical care available.

[Muajin76]

Merkel just admited that they are estimating that 70-80 % of germans will catch the virus.

if germans admit they are unable to contain it lets be real no country can viably contain it.

hmm..this the same Merkel that said Fabio was the sexiest man alive in 2019?:P

[Deathknightish]

The Swedish state just removed the... not sure how to really translate it into English, but if you are sick you won't get paid at all for the first day (following days you get 80%, though), which, naturally, has lead to many people feeling like they can't afford to get sick.

Good move, now people may stay home instead of feeling forced in having to go to work.

This will last for 1½ month.

[Fuiking]

121 new cases for a total of 503 in the Netherlands. 5th death. Note: amount of new cases might be higher, not everyone is getting tested, mostly due to: ''already in quarantine, cba testing those'' ... How can a country fail so hard?

[shadowmouse]

State health officials joined Chu in asking the CDC and Food and Drug Administration to waive privacy rules and allow clinical tests in a research lab, citing the threat of significant loss of life. The CDC and FDA said no. "We felt like we were sitting, waiting for the pandemic to emerge," Chu told the Times. "We could help. We couldn't do anything."

They held off for a couple of weeks, but on Feb. 25, Chu and her colleagues "began performing coronavirus tests, without government approval," the Times reports. They found a positive case pretty quickly, and after discussing the ethics, they told state health officials, who confirmed the next day that a teenager who hadn't traveled abroad had COVID-19 — and the virus had likely been spreading undetected throughout the Seattle area for weeks. Later that day, the CDC and FDA told Chu and her colleagues to stop testing, then partially relented, and the lab found several more cases. On Monday night, they were ordered to stop testing again.

Source: https://news.yahoo.com/seattle-lab-u...053628224.html

Bureaucracy, China doesn't have a monopoly on it. :P

[JohnBrown1917]

121 new cases for a total of 503 in the Netherlands. 5th death. Note: amount of new cases might be higher, not everyone is getting tested, mostly due to: ''already in quarantine, cba testing those'' ... How can a country fail so hard?

Yet it handling way better than the US or Italy, but hey, how else are you gonna be hyperbolic?

[Wilfire]

2-4% deathrate, mostly being the elderly isn't civilization ending, wtf are you on.

Civilization-ending, not extinction level event. After this is over and 4% of the world's population has died, say goodbye to globalism, international travel and trade, "work yourself to death even if you're sick" culture and all the rest of human retardation.

[JohnBrown1917]

Civilization-ending, not extinction level event. After this is over and 4% of the world's population has died, say goodbye to globalism, international travel and trade, "work yourself to death even if you're sick" culture and all the rest of human retardation.

Where do you even get these ridiculous idea?

[Orange Joe]

Oh. I know not to believe the media when they say things are getting better.

What media, aside from maybe fox. Is saying it's getting better?

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Lol bullshit, if I am ever proven wrong I admit being wrong because unlike a lot of people here I man up to my mistakes.

Bull fucking shit. liar.

[crewskater]

Again. Below 60, 99% will he fine. Remember that in Italy they aren't even testing people that aren't severe so the statistics re extremely biased. South Korea for example has extremely low death rate of 0.6%. Children barely show any symptoms. Healthy adults will feel like it's just a flu. The quarantine itself and the danger to older people is what's important. Civilization will do fine.

That is factually wrong. People who are obese are higher risk along those who smoke. I learned more watching this video than I have the last few weeks from the media.

[unbound]

4-5k dead so far world wide is still a very low number when you realise how many people there are, some 400 infected here but no deaths so far just a matter of time though. Also mostly elderly and weak that dies.

Wonder how the planet would handle a new black death scenario if it's that hard to stop this one.

Would probably be good for the planet but humanity would be fucked seeing how many people we are compared to back then.

Sigh. It isn't a matter of 4.4k people dead...it's that 4.4k people died out of 122k infections.

The reason this is being treated so seriously is that this is about 2.5 times more infectious than the flu and more than 10 times deadlier.

So, in the US, we typically see 10 million to 40 million people infected with the flu, and usually see 15k to 60k people die and 250k to 1m people hospitalized. If COVID-19 reaches that many people, we'll see 350k to 1.4m people dead and 1.5m to 6m people hospitalized...and the US doesn't even have 1m hospital beds.

[ParanoiD84]

Sigh. It isn't a matter of 4.4k people dead...it's that 4.4k people died out of 122k infections.

The reason this is being treated so seriously is that this is about 2.5 times more infectious than the flu and more than 10 times deadlier.

So, in the US, we typically see 10 million to 40 million people infected with the flu, and usually see 15k to 60k people die and 250k to 1m people hospitalized. If COVID-19 reaches that many people, we'll see 350k to 1.4m people dead and 1.5m to 6m people hospitalized...and the US doesn't even have 1m hospital beds.

Can't say I know anyone worrying about this to much and life goes on as usual. Guess old people should be more worried and stay away from people to be more safe.

Only thing that sucks is that there is a chance they cancel hockey events here and perhaps even VM.

But sure it's pretty bad in some places.