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    The Swedish state just removed the... not sure how to really translate it into English, but if you are sick you won't get paid at all for the first day (following days you get 80%, though), which, naturally, has lead to many people feeling like they can't afford to get sick.

    Good move, now people may stay home instead of feeling forced in having to go to work.

    This will last for 1½ month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathknightish View Post
    The Swedish state just removed the... not sure how to really translate it into English, but if you are sick you won't get paid at all for the first day (following days you get 80%, though), which, naturally, has lead to many people feeling like they can't afford to get sick.

    Good move, now people may stay home instead of feeling forced in having to go to work.

    This will last for 1½ month.
    it's called qualifying period in english...

  3. #1823
    121 new cases for a total of 503 in the Netherlands. 5th death. Note: amount of new cases might be higher, not everyone is getting tested, mostly due to: ''already in quarantine, cba testing those'' ... How can a country fail so hard?
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    State health officials joined Chu in asking the CDC and Food and Drug Administration to waive privacy rules and allow clinical tests in a research lab, citing the threat of significant loss of life. The CDC and FDA said no. "We felt like we were sitting, waiting for the pandemic to emerge," Chu told the Times. "We could help. We couldn't do anything."

    They held off for a couple of weeks, but on Feb. 25, Chu and her colleagues "began performing coronavirus tests, without government approval," the Times reports. They found a positive case pretty quickly, and after discussing the ethics, they told state health officials, who confirmed the next day that a teenager who hadn't traveled abroad had COVID-19 — and the virus had likely been spreading undetected throughout the Seattle area for weeks. Later that day, the CDC and FDA told Chu and her colleagues to stop testing, then partially relented, and the lab found several more cases. On Monday night, they were ordered to stop testing again.
    Source: https://news.yahoo.com/seattle-lab-u...053628224.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    121 new cases for a total of 503 in the Netherlands. 5th death. Note: amount of new cases might be higher, not everyone is getting tested, mostly due to: ''already in quarantine, cba testing those'' ... How can a country fail so hard?
    Yet it handling way better than the US or Italy, but hey, how else are you gonna be hyperbolic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    2-4% deathrate, mostly being the elderly isn't civilization ending, wtf are you on.
    Civilization-ending, not extinction level event. After this is over and 4% of the world's population has died, say goodbye to globalism, international travel and trade, "work yourself to death even if you're sick" culture and all the rest of human retardation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Civilization-ending, not extinction level event. After this is over and 4% of the world's population has died, say goodbye to globalism, international travel and trade, "work yourself to death even if you're sick" culture and all the rest of human retardation.
    Where do you even get these ridiculous idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muajin76 View Post
    Oh. I know not to believe the media when they say things are getting better.
    What media, aside from maybe fox. Is saying it's getting better?

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  9. #1829
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    Again. Below 60, 99% will he fine. Remember that in Italy they aren't even testing people that aren't severe so the statistics re extremely biased. South Korea for example has extremely low death rate of 0.6%. Children barely show any symptoms. Healthy adults will feel like it's just a flu. The quarantine itself and the danger to older people is what's important. Civilization will do fine.
    That is factually wrong. People who are obese are higher risk along those who smoke. I learned more watching this video than I have the last few weeks from the media.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    4-5k dead so far world wide is still a very low number when you realise how many people there are, some 400 infected here but no deaths so far just a matter of time though. Also mostly elderly and weak that dies.

    Wonder how the planet would handle a new black death scenario if it's that hard to stop this one.

    Would probably be good for the planet but humanity would be fucked seeing how many people we are compared to back then.
    Sigh. It isn't a matter of 4.4k people dead...it's that 4.4k people died out of 122k infections.

    The reason this is being treated so seriously is that this is about 2.5 times more infectious than the flu and more than 10 times deadlier.

    So, in the US, we typically see 10 million to 40 million people infected with the flu, and usually see 15k to 60k people die and 250k to 1m people hospitalized. If COVID-19 reaches that many people, we'll see 350k to 1.4m people dead and 1.5m to 6m people hospitalized...and the US doesn't even have 1m hospital beds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbound View Post
    Sigh. It isn't a matter of 4.4k people dead...it's that 4.4k people died out of 122k infections.

    The reason this is being treated so seriously is that this is about 2.5 times more infectious than the flu and more than 10 times deadlier.

    So, in the US, we typically see 10 million to 40 million people infected with the flu, and usually see 15k to 60k people die and 250k to 1m people hospitalized. If COVID-19 reaches that many people, we'll see 350k to 1.4m people dead and 1.5m to 6m people hospitalized...and the US doesn't even have 1m hospital beds.
    Can't say I know anyone worrying about this to much and life goes on as usual. Guess old people should be more worried and stay away from people to be more safe.

    Only thing that sucks is that there is a chance they cancel hockey events here and perhaps even VM.

    But sure it's pretty bad in some places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Where do you even get these ridiculous idea?
    Are you familiar with the Spanish Flu? It's said to have infected around 27% of the worlds population and that's when the world wasn't connect like it is today. If that were to happen again, you're looking at possibly 37million+ people dying worldwide just by comparing it to the Spanish Flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crewskater View Post
    Are you familiar with the Spanish Flu? It's said to have infected around 27% of the worlds population and that's when the world wasn't connect like it is today. If that were to happen again, you're looking at possibly 37million+ people dying worldwide just by comparing it to the Spanish Flu.
    I don't think it's fair to compare CV to a disease outbreak that happened over a hundred years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crewskater View Post
    That is factually wrong. People who are obese are higher risk along those who smoke. I learned more watching this video than I have the last few weeks from the media.

    He is factually correct, obese and smokers are not "healthy adults".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poe View Post
    I don't think it's fair to compare CV to a disease outbreak that happened over a hundred years ago.
    Care to explain why?

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    59 cases in Portugal, and neightbouring Spain it already goes over 2000 reported cases... This is not going well at all .

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Yet it handling way better than the US or Italy, but hey, how else are you gonna be hyperbolic?
    Handling it way better? you mean the half arsed attempts at trying to control the spread? I disagree with you there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crewskater View Post
    Care to explain why?
    I think the comparison has value. The biggest issue with spanish flu was swamping out the medical systems ability to keep up. That is still very very possible. We have better techniques for making vaccines now but those still take a year+ to deploy in a best case scenario. So even today if/when something like spanish flu kicks off you still are limited to pretty similar tools to try to keep as many people alive as long as possible to try to buy time for vaccines to come online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    Handling it way better? you mean the half arsed attempts at trying to control the spread? I disagree with you there.
    What else you expect without going full authoritarian? Its going far worse in a ton of countries.
    Or did you forget how densely populated this country is?


    It won't be stopped, the most important part is to slow it down enough for the hospitals to be able to handle it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    Again. Below 60, 99% will he fine.
    Just for scope, there are about 7 billion people on this planet below the age of 60. 99% of those "being fine" means that "only" 40 million people under the age of 60 worldwide would die. And that doesn't count the 0.7 billion people who are over the age of 60 worldwide.

    Just pointing out that "99% will be fine" is not quite the calming rhetoric some people might think it is.


    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    Can't say I know anyone worrying about this to much and life goes on as usual.
    Yes, very scientific rebuttal. If you surround yourself only with others who have their heads buried, your "worries" will naturally only be sand-related. That doesn't mean much to reality, however.
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