The society collapse will make this "pandemic" a complete joke. What a brilliant idea to stop working all at once, people won't need to eat or pay rents at all.
The society collapse will make this "pandemic" a complete joke. What a brilliant idea to stop working all at once, people won't need to eat or pay rents at all.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
I don't know about shot dead, but you should at least be stopped by security. I don't even know how these guys got in. I suppose my only experiences with US capitol buildings have been in Nebraska and Georgia, but both had more security than a US airport. You can't carry a pair of plastic scissors into those buildings, and certainly not a gun.
0.1% to 0.2% is like flu, that's probably a little optimistic. By now it is clear that most of the world severely overreacted though.
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Wow, the alt-right balkan Swede showed up
I remember this guy being linked years ago during the migrant crisis where he made videos about how Swedes are soy and let migrants rape Swedish women and take over the country.
I'm gonna check his take on the virus now, should be interesting.
No.
This is why I never accept arguments from those that don't live here regarding American society. Because you just don't understand and you never will.
First and foremost...de-escalation. You have an armed population, some of which are likely in favor of the protesters, and that includes the very police that you fantasize will blindly follow orders. Think again. If I recall there are whole regions where law enforcement has refused to enforce lockdowns. And I'm certain this has in part played into decisions to reopen parts of many states. (And I'm looking at PA as another fine example) Politicians need to encourage the thought that everything is going accordingly...and it's all under control.
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And it won't ever happen.
So get that out of your head.
The study (or studies, really) that he's talking about is not a good study. There are better studies being done, and because they're not awful, we won't have results from those until later in the year.
But that study, and another like it headed by the same author, has been criticized by most folks in the field for how poorly it was designed. Namely, it claims to be looking at a random sampling of data, but instead it tested people who already had reason to believe they had coronavirus, by virtue of advertising their study as a means to get tested in a test-starved area. So it's not giving us an idea of how many people have the virus; it's giving us an idea of how many people think they have the virus and are correct, which is a completely different statistic, and using those numbers to make assumptions about the larger population. Then, after making that simple mistake in sample selection, they rely wholly on antibody testing - but antibody testing is not reliable for this virus yet. It was only in the first week of April that we developed antibody tests that we think are reliable, and these samples were taken long before that. It's just bad science.
Of course, bad science is the favorite science of science deniers.
You literally quoted me saying their numbers are optimistic.
The thing is, you can't keep them closed for months and years to come.
I mean, what do you propose? Let's say vaccine will be ready and available early next year, what then? Whole year without school? Where will kids be while parents are working?
We will have to take these risks, slowly and surely things will open up, because this situation is untenable. It's good we did lockdowns and restriction and I bet we will have varying degrees of these restrictions for a whole year, but at some point you just can't keep this up like that. You can't have schools closed for a year.
I mean, this all depends on the situation, but really now - we're a country of 9 million and so far we had 227 dead total for 16k identified cases and we're nowhere near collapsing here or what not. At this point yes, it's time for some cruel math - how many will potentially die if X reopens. Can't keep everything under lock and key if stakes are not high enough yet.
Nobody's gonna go full Sweden here, but this can't continue like this either.
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Unless i am mistake unlike the flu what was used initially as an example to form policies and measures around is that corona virus is not really as easily carried by younger kids to the point experts are saying it might be okay to let small kids back with their grand parents as they are not the carriers they expected them to be.
A large problem with schools being closed though is lack of daycare for working parents, the added stress parents get from trying to juggle their daily tasks and help them with their school work, as here despite schools being closed they still get assignments online.
The biggest issue is probably no final exams considering the school year is almost at its end and how that is going to be tackled. Can't let everyone just pass that year or flunk them.
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r.i.p. alleria. 1997-2017. blizzard ruined alleria forever. blizz assassinated alleria's character and appearance.
i will never forgive you for this blizzard.
Data already corrected at worldometers, this was what happened
https://sicnoticias.pt/especiais/cor...pos-duplicacao
Google translated
Bonus News761/5000
Another 16 deaths from Covid-19 in Portugal. Total infected infected after duplication
The Directorate-General for Health (DGS) announced this Saturday the existence of 1,023 deaths and 25,190 cases of Covid-19 in Portugal.
The total number of infected people was corrected after 422 cases recorded in the North since 25 April have been doubled, explained the Minister of Health.
The number of deaths rose, from yesterday to today, from 1,007 to 1,023, plus 16 - an increase of 1.5%.
The number of infected is 25,190. In Friday's bulletin 25,351 cases were confirmed, an information now corrected.
The number of recovered cases rose from 1,647 to 1,671, 24 more than yesterday.
There are 855 inpatients, 150 are in Intensive Care Units.
Today the state of emergency ends in Portugal
After 45 days, the country moves from a state of emergency - which ends this Saturday - to a state of calamity. The Government has insisted that the measures of confinement and social distance should continue so that the evolution of the outbreak of the new coronavirus in Portugal is as favorable as possible.