Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[Acidbaron]

LOL

French - Belgium border corona measures confusion.

You are allowed to enter as a citizen from France into Belgium but you aren't allowed to return to France if you have no valid reason, risking a fine.
Belgium is allowing people to cross the border to visit family and do some shopping but apparently France is not aware of this measure.

So you could end up being trapped in Belgium or be forced to pay a fine of a few hundred euros to return.

[Santti]

Is he cheering them or what is that tweet supposed to mean?

I think he sneezed. That's what it sounds like when Trump does it.

[Gabon]

in my country people dont give a shit about coronavirus for maybe 3 last weeks.

[szechuan]

[Shadowferal]

The mobs that gathered in major cities don't seem to give a fig about the virus.

[Gorsameth]

The mobs that gathered in major cities don't seem to give a fig about the virus.

a virus that might cause you issues doesn't seem very high on the priority list when you protesting police officers slowly murdering people in cold blood.

[Shadowferal]

a virus that might cause you issues doesn't seem very high on the priority list when you protesting police officers slowly murdering people in cold blood.

One out of millions of arrests every year just shows how silly your statement is.

[JohnBrown1917]

One out of millions of arrests every year just shows how silly your statement is.

Not sure how that logic works when the same officier has done this shit before.

[Gorsameth]

One out of millions of arrests every year just shows how silly your statement is.

I'd list all the people the US police kills every year but they don't actually collect those numbers because of how bad it would look....

[Shadowferal]

I'd list all the people the US police kills every year but they don't actually collect those numbers because of how bad it would look....

As I posted elsewhere, there were 410 uses of deadly force back in 2012 when that year saw 12.2 million arrests.
Politifact rated that mostly true.

But this is the era of selective "facts" so whatever fits your narrative.

[Orange Joe]

As I posted elsewhere, there were 410 uses of deadly force back in 2012 when that year saw 12.2 million arrests.
Politifact rated that mostly true.

But this is the era of selective "facts" so whatever fits your narrative.

The irony of you saying this yet going all the way back to 2012.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police..._United_States

Frequency

The annual average number of justifiable homicides alone was previously estimated to be near 400.^[25] Updated estimates from the Bureau of Justice Statistics released in 2015 estimate the number to be around 930 per year, or 1240 if assuming that non-reporting local agencies kill people at the same rate as reporting agencies.^[26] The Washington Post has tracked shootings (only) since 2015, reporting 990 shootings in that year,^[27] and 963 in 2016.^[28]


Deaths by age group in 2015, according to The Counted


The Guardian newspaper runs its own database, The Counted, which tracked US killings by police and other law enforcement agencies including from gunshots, tasers, car accidents and custody deaths. In 2015 they and counted 1146 deaths and 1093 deaths for 2016. The database can be viewed by state, gender, race/ethnicity, age, classification (e.g., "gunshot"), and whether the person killed was armed.^[29] The Washington Post also keeps a database of police killings for 2015 to 2017. The database can also classify people in various categories including race, age, weapon etc. The database lists 995 deaths for 2015, 963 for 2016, and 976 for 2017.^[30]

[Strawberry]

USA has 1.7mil infected.
How does China have 84.000?

I don't buy the locked cities bullshit. Considering how much they tried to cover it, it should've spread like a plague in Wuhan at least. Chinese families are way more packed, living together compared to western families. But it also did spread to other cities as well.
So HOW does China have 84.000 infected?

[Shadowferal]

The irony of you saying this yet going all the way back to 2012.

l]

I was going on my post here
Where I was quoting politifact. Feel free to check their sources.

[Orange Joe]

I was going on my post here
Where I was quoting politifact. Feel free to check their sources.

Which has what to do with 2019/2020 in reply to this comment.

I'd list all the people the US police kills every year but they don't actually collect those numbers because of how bad it would look....

It's called bringing up selective facts that fit your narrative.

I'm not saying you are wrong about 2012, but looking at more recent numbers shows much higher rates of use of deadly force.

Anyways this is off-topic for this thread. I'm more than willing to continue this in the correct thread.

[Shadowferal]

Which has what to do with 2019/2020 in reply to this comment.



It's called bringing up selective facts that fit your narrative.

I'm not saying you are wrong about 2012, but looking at more recent numbers shows much higher rates of use of deadly force.

As soon as I get to a pc I should be able to provide my current numbers
(I don't know how people just use cellphones as a pc. Where the one I'm using now were mine I think I would have thrown it against the wall in frustration)

But the number that doesn't seem to be moving is over 10 million arrests a year.

[Ghostpanther]

a virus that might cause you issues doesn't seem very high on the priority list when you protesting police officers slowly murdering people in cold blood.

It is murder in this one case in Minn. But considering the number of cases they have to deal with each year, the number of clear abuses is extremely low. There is no slowly murdering of people by the police in cold blood as a norm.

It is a false narrative some are pushing for other reasons than justice. And some are using it as a excuse to loot and get free stuff or who knows, maybe excitement by bored people.

[PhaelixWW]

I'm not saying you are wrong about 2012, but looking at more recent numbers shows much higher rates of use of deadly force.

No, wrong. You're comparing apples to oranges. The stat used in the fact check was the justifiable homicide state reported in the FBI's UCR yearly series. And those rates have remained steady for a while.

I'm not saying these numbers are all-inclusive, but they do suggest a fairly consistent rate throughout.

Year	JH	US pop	Rate
2018	410	326.69	12.6
2017	443	324.99	13.6
2016	439	322.94	13.6
2015	452	320.64	14.1
2014	450	318.3	14.1
2013	461	315.99	14.6
2012	426	313.83	13.6
2011	404	311.56	13
2010	397	309.32	12.8
2009	414	306.77	13.5
2008	371	304.09	12.2
2007	398	301.23	13.2
2006	386	298.38	12.9
2005	347	295.52	11.7
2004	367	292.81	12.5
2003	373	290.11	12.9
2002	341	287.63	11.9
2001	378	284.97	13.3
2000	309	282.16	11
1999	308	279.04	11
1998	369	275.85	13.4
1997	366	272.65	13.4
1996	357	269.39	13.3
1995	389	266.28	14.6

[Kraenen]

a virus that might cause you issues doesn't seem very high on the priority list when you protesting police officers slowly murdering people in cold blood.

Given that America has suffered almost 2 million cases and over 100,000 deaths, all in the course of a few months, and that police are killing something over 1000 people over a year, this should be given a second look. Maybe you have done some statistical accounting work that would prove the in-person protests all over the country are not primarily based on emotion (not an invalid reason either), but carefully crafted weighing of the probabilities.

[Deja Thoris]

USA has 1.7mil infected.
How does China have 84.000?

I don't buy the locked cities bullshit. Considering how much they tried to cover it, it should've spread like a plague in Wuhan at least. Chinese families are way more packed, living together compared to western families. But it also did spread to other cities as well.
So HOW does China have 84.000 infected?

We know they have more. How is it relevant though? Are we going to fixate on "hurr durr China lying?" We know they lie. It's par for the course.

[JohnBrown1917]

USA has 1.7mil infected.
How does China have 84.000?

I don't buy the locked cities bullshit. Considering how much they tried to cover it, it should've spread like a plague in Wuhan at least. Chinese families are way more packed, living together compared to western families. But it also did spread to other cities as well.
So HOW does China have 84.000 infected?

Because very harsh lockdowns do work, if you don't believe China, just look at other countries where they work. Vietnam for example.