Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[szechuan]

If Trump caught the Corona, he won't be able to play it down at the end IMO.

[Unholyground]

Fuck ya, hope the prick kicks the bucket and chokes to death on his own breath. What a useless excuse for a leader and human. The world isn't that lucky though lmao.
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[Tojara]

As dark as it sounds, him dying would probably be the best thing he's done throughout his entire presidency. It might finally convince people that the virus is serious and actually exists.

Or, people will think it's a conspiracy theory and Trump was assassinated by Bill Gates or George Soros lacing his coca cola when he wasn't looking.

Yeah, probably conspiracy theory.

[Spramp]

I’m willing to bet he’ll be okay, followed by him addressing the US about how he told us all it wasn’t that serious, resulting in Trump followers being even more careless.

This won’t go how we want it to go...

This. They are going to pump him full of previously infected children's blood/plasma so he doesn't get it as bad and then he will come out and tell people its just like the cold and other people will believe him and go out and get it and not have presidential treatments and die. its all so predicable at this point.

[Yunru]

So much stupid:

[Wilfire]

Masks are better in an "ideal" scenario. In practice people don't change their masks often enough and/or take them off, get them contaminated and put them back on again, making it worse than it would have been in the absence of a mask.

[Hadriker]

Trump is at High Risk dying from COVID.

Definitely a Higher risk, but chances are still he'll pull out of it just fine. he also has the advantage of having access to very good healthcare.

Other CDC data indicate that, among COVID-19 patients in their 70s, the death rate for those who were in good health at the time of their infection was 10%. For those already dealing with a medical condition, the death rate was three times as great: 32%.

Source: https://www.latimes.com/science/stor...tion-prognosis

[downnola]

So much stupid:

Can't catch in the virus if you don't breathe. /points at big brain

[Edge-]

Masks are better in an "ideal" scenario. In practice people don't change their masks often enough and/or take them off, get them contaminated and put them back on again, making it worse than it would have been in the absence of a mask.

Big 'ol citation needed for this. First I've heard of anything like this.

[Wilfire]

Big 'ol citation needed for this. First I've heard of anything like this.

Go outside and take a look. People are wearing masks on their biceps, stuffing them into their purses, wearing them around their necks or letting them slide down their noses. Next to no one is wearing them properly because it's annoying as fuck and makes it hard and the straps murder your ears.

[Granyala]

So much stupid:

No clue about the other points but 5 and 6 are actually true.
Mask manuals even state that viral particles will not be blocked, hence no protection for yourself (what lands on your mask is basically sucked through by your breath).

I think the only exception to that would be N95 masks, which block a large %age of particles down to 100nm.
Wearing a bandana or a simple cotton cloth and thinking it could block viral particles is hilariously wrong.

That being said: they still collect virus contaminated droplets, which are far larger in size and thus reduce the viral load expelled by people / reduce the range of said loads. As long as they are dry and capable of absorption that is.

When I see filthy, soaking wet masks... I always think "why does this dude even bother".
Also yeah: bad mask hygiene = major danger to yourself.

[Wilfire]

No clue about the other points but 5 and 6 are actually true.
Mask manuals even state that viral particles will not be blocked, hence no protection for yourself (what lands on your mask is basically sucked through by your breath).

I think the only exception to that would be N95 masks, which block a large %age of particles down to 100nm.
Wearing a bandana or a simple cotton cloth and thinking it could block viral particles is hilariously wrong.

That being said: they still collect virus contaminated droplets, which are far larger in size and thus reduce the viral load expelled by people / reduce the range of said loads. As long as they are dry and capable of absorption that is.

When I see filthy, soaking whet masks... I always think "why does this dude even bother".
Also yeah: bad mask hygiene = major danger to yourself.

And a danger to everyone else. I had to come into the office physically last month and people would take off their masks by hooking their fingers inside of them to drag them down and then would go around eating food and shaking everyone's hands.

[Granyala]

Big 'ol citation needed for this. First I've heard of anything like this.

Your brain should be all the citation you need.
Combine a contaminated surface with moisture, residual sugars and warmth (all provided by your breath) and what do you get?

A fashionable petri-dish, ready for bacterial and fungal growth! YUCK!

That's why every site tries to teach people how to properly handle these devices. Only thing is: they are annoying to wear. If you take them on and off and have to have them ready at a moments notice... yeah people will go the convenient route and strap them to their wrist, let them dangle around their ear or neck. I've seen it all.

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And a danger to everyone else. I had to come into the office physically last month and people would take off their masks by hooking their fingers inside of them to drag them down and then would go around eating food and shaking everyone's hands.

People still shake hands? Oo
We haven't done that since 03/2020. Get with the times. A simple bow is enough to show respect.

Personal note: for me this is one macabre + out of this pandemic: I never liked other people wanting to touch my hands.

[PhaelixWW]

Go outside and take a look. People are wearing masks on their biceps, stuffing them into their purses, wearing them around their necks or letting them slide down their noses. Next to no one is wearing them properly because it's annoying as fuck and makes it hard and the straps murder your ears.

Then it just seems like you're surrounding yourself with wimps and panzies. Most, though not all, of the people I see around are wearing their masks correctly.

And a danger to everyone else.

No. A wet mask will not protect the user as much, but it will still be far, far more effective at protecting the people around said user than if the user were not wearing a mask at all.

[Edge-]

Go outside and take a look. People are wearing masks on their biceps, stuffing them into their purses, wearing them around their necks or letting them slide down their noses. Next to no one is wearing them properly because it's annoying as fuck and makes it hard and the straps murder your ears.

That's not a citation. Still waiting on a citation.

[Deja Thoris]

Oh the conspiracy theory nuts have come in here. That poster about masks is such bullshit.

You won't get a citation. Go read through his post history. It's genuinely cuckoo.

[Gaidax]

Wear your damn masks outside and don't be dicks.

The end.

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If we'd have our retard populace wear masks proper instead of this chin mask trick to avoid fines, maybe we would not need 2nd lockdown.

[Forogil]

Big 'ol citation needed for this. First I've heard of anything like this.

It's not like the information is hidden:
https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...d-19-and-masks

At the present time, the widespread use of masks everywhere is not supported by high-quality scientific evidence, and there are potential benefits and harms to consider.

There are potential risks and disadvantages that should be taken into account in any decision-making process on the use of masks:

• Non-medical or fabric masks could increase potential for COVID-19 to infect a person if the mask is contaminated by dirty hands and touched often, or kept on other parts of the face or head and then placed back over the mouth and nose
• Depending on the type of mask used, could cause difficulty in breathing
• They can lead to facial skin breakdown
• They can lead to difficulty with communicating clearly
• They can be uncomfortable to wear
• It is possible that mask use, with unclear benefits, could create a false sense of security in the wearer, leading to diminished practice of recognized beneficial preventive measures such as physical distancing and hand hygiene.

It is an important reminder that in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic, everyone, regardless of the use of masks, should:

• avoid groups of people and crowded spaces;
• maintain physical distance of at least 1 meter from other people, especially from those who are sick;
• clean your hands frequently, using an alcohol-based hand rub if hands are not visibly dirty, or soap and water;
• cover your nose and mouth with a bent elbow or paper tissue when coughing or sneezing, dispose of the tissue and clean your hands immediately after use;
• refrain from touching your mouth, nose, and eye

Above all, stay informed of the progress of the disease, pay attention to local authorities and their recommendations, and follow and encourage best practices.

But, of course, some people will say that they know more - and bash WHO as usual.

[breadisfunny]

Enlighten me then, because it was not COVID-19.

Other than that, I'm not sure how it's relevant. His brother is not a frikkin' POTUS, with a full team of best doctors at call.

why wouldn't his brother have access to a similar team of doctors as well? pretty sure their family is included in that.

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Fuck ya, hope the prick kicks the bucket and chokes to death on his own breath. What a useless excuse for a leader and human. The world isn't that lucky though lmao.

hoping for others to die. stay classy mmo-c.

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i have two questions

1. if trump dies, will we finally declare a real war on China?

2. if he dies, does Biden simply win?

if #2 happens that would actually throw a wrench in the works of the election since until now the democrats have been running against trump. pence is a mostly unknown outside of his policies since he doesn't comment as much as trump so he would theoretically come with less baggage than trump.

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Big 'ol citation needed for this. First I've heard of anything like this.

citation needed for what? it wouldn't be surprising a lot of people just go with what is easiest so i wouldn't be surprised if like my parents and sister they go days without washing their cloth masks or just keep reusing the old disposable ones especially the lower income people.

[Tinfoy Lat]

Not 100% sure how #2 works, but I think it just means Pence is sworn in as President regardless of how close we are to the election. Then as far as running against Biden, the GOP can choose to go with Pence (or nominate someone else if they don't want him, but that's unlikely) to run against Biden. Probably results in a delayed election if it happens that close to election day. In which case, Pence is President in the meantime.

The election goes forward on nov 3. That's set in the constitution. It's too late for the republicans to get anyone else put on the ballot, so they'd have to push for a write-in candidate. Mike Pence would even have to be written in for president as he's on the ballot for vice president and those votes couldn't just be applied to the presidential election.