Wouldn't the Sethrak have been more beneficial allies than the Vulpera for the horde?

[ravenmoon]

I think they would have been, but question is would you have preferred the Sethrak as the allied race over the Vulpera?


Sethrak had many more assets and the greater expertise too. Would you like them to join the horde?

[Sanguinerd]

Yes, story-wise they'd be a better fit but they lack the "cute factor" and Blizzard is all about that shit nowadays.

[Th3Scourge]

Yes, because they are not furries.

Say no to furries

[Nnyco]

Considering the vast majority of em are enemies, not really.

[EyeOculus]

Yes, because they are not furries.

Say no to furries

Sethrak would be scalies then... which is technically a branch of furry.

[Th3Scourge]

Sethrak would be scalies then... which is technically a branch of furry.

LMK when you see a someone RP as a snake for some weird kink

Plus, snekmen are cool

[Fabled]

LMK when you see a someone RP as a snake for some weird kink

Plus, snekmen are cool

You haven't been down the rabbit hole of furry porn enough then. Scalies exist and I have seen more thicc af snake women than I wish I knew about.

[Razion]

Why not both?

[Florena]

They could but story wise they worked with the Alliance too and IIRC timeline wise actually had friendly interactions with the alliance first but I could be wrong on that. The alliance helps them in the war campaign so it's not even just 'an alliance adventurer helped them' just the Alliance in general.

[Phaelia]

They could but story wise they worked with the Alliance too and IIRC timeline wise actually had friendly interactions with the alliance first but I could be wrong on that. The alliance helps them in the war campaign so it's not even just 'an alliance adventurer helped them' just the Alliance in general.

They helped them, and then basically abandoned them after the intro quests and Vorrik got recaptured. The Horde then went on to help them defeat general Jakra’zet, Emporer Korthek and attempt to defeat Mythrax all while canonically saving their loa Sethrallis. Arguably, the Horde has a better chance for them if anyone, and they were also present for Talanji’s coronation.
On topic, I’m a huge advocate for Sethrak on the Horde, so yes. I agree.

[Th3Scourge]

You haven't been down the rabbit hole of furry porn enough then. Scalies exist and I have seen more thicc af snake women than I wish I knew about.

LOL the internet is a sordid place of debauchery

[Th3Scourge]

Don't even need the internet for it!

hahahaha nothing is off limits in Anime

[Kyphael]

To be honest, Sethrak should have come to the Alliance as natural rivals to the Vulpera and to give the Alliance a cool Allied Race for a change, but they didn't bother making playable Sethrak models so Alliance got trash gnomes instead.

[FelPlague]

I think they would have been, but question is would you have preferred the Sethrak as the allied race over the Vulpera?


Sethrak had many more assets and the greater expertise too. Would you like them to join the horde?

the vulpera help the horde alot, and are literally a rep for the horde in voldun... the sethrak are mostly the enemy of the vulpera.

[Aresk]

Considering the Sethrak are friendly to both Horde and Alliance, I don't see a reason for them joining the Horde. It's not like they plan on traveling outside the desert and need protection from other threats. Their only real rivals at this point are the vulpera, who make far more sense as a Horde race based off Alliance animosity and their desire to actually see the world.

Then again, I think Highmountain, Nightborne, Lightforged, and Mechagnomes are pretty horrible allied races from a lore standpoint too, since they have no reason to suddenly turn on their former allies.

[schwarzkopf]

The Sethrak are fanatics, and worship a leader, the Vulpera are fairly free going people.

So it would seem unlikely to convert the Sethrak than the Vulpera.

[Frinata]

Considering the Sethrak are friendly to both Horde and Alliance, I don't see a reason for them joining the Horde. It's not like they plan on traveling outside the desert and need protection from other threats. Their only real rivals at this point are the vulpera, who make far more sense as a Horde race based off Alliance animosity and their desire to actually see the world.

Then again, I think Highmountain, Nightborne, Lightforged, and Mechagnomes are pretty horrible allied races from a lore standpoint too, since they have no reason to suddenly turn on their former allies.

Highmountain are literally just Cenarius blessed Tauren. Makes 1000% sense for them to join the Tauren in the Horde.

Nightborne spent 10,000 years isolated, and wanted to venture out properly into the world. They looked to the Alliance first to join with them, but Tyrande is shit at diplomacy, so they looked to their other option in the Sin'dorei, and subsequently, the Horde.

Lightforged follow the same reasoning as the Highmountain, their race was ravaged, they'd be stupid not to rejoin with their Draenei on Azeroth.

Mechagnomes are the only one on that list, and even then it can be understood why they would opt to go join with their fleshy Gnome brethren.

Just because the Allied Races join Horde or Alliance, doesn't automaticly mean they hate everything about the opposite faction. Just look at the Pandaren, they're Allied Races without an unlock quest, and chose either side to join, and back during their content release atleast, the faction leaders had to remind them that despite having friends on the other side, they couldn't fraternize with the Enemy. It goes to imply that not all the races are as commited to the faction war as the core races are.

They just know how to follow orders.

[ravenmoon]

Why not both?

Both would have been ideal, and many still hope they would get the Sethrak in - they have a good solid lore base, and are the main characters of Voldun. They are also connected to teh loa too so a Troll relationship would have been good.

But yes, both would be nice.. if they ever do a round 2 orf allied races, they should kick off with the Sethrak, cos if they wait till the last 2, we'd have forgotten them.

[tangers58]

I think they would have been, but question is would you have preferred the Sethrak as the allied race over the Vulpera?


Sethrak had many more assets and the greater expertise too. Would you like them to join the horde?

From the way Vorik (I think that was his name) was talking during his fight with the emperor I don't think there are many Sethrak left and he seemed to think they were doomed.

[ravenmoon]

Highmountain are literally just Cenarius blessed Tauren. Makes 1000% sense for them to join the Tauren in the Horde.

Nightborne spent 10,000 years isolated, and wanted to venture out properly into the world. They looked to the Alliance first to join with them, but Tyrande is shit at diplomacy, so they looked to their other option in the Sin'dorei, and subsequently, the Horde.

Lightforged follow the same reasoning as the Highmountain, their race was ravaged, they'd be stupid not to rejoin with their Draenei on Azeroth.

Mechagnomes are the only one on that list, and even then it can be understood why they would opt to go join with their fleshy Gnome brethren.

Just because the Allied Races join Horde or Alliance, doesn't automaticly mean they hate everything about the opposite faction. Just look at the Pandaren, they're Allied Races without an unlock quest, and chose either side to join, and back during their content release atleast, the faction leaders had to remind them that despite having friends on the other side, they couldn't fraternize with the Enemy. It goes to imply that not all the races are as commited to the faction war as the core races are.

They just know how to follow orders.

I wish they made more provision to show these nuances. Certain faction core races like Humans/Orcs, Dwarves/Trolls, Gnomes/Forsaken can be totally closed off to the otherfaction. but other races who have supporting lore should be more nuanced.

i can accpet if the portions that join the horde or alliance don't fraternise with teh enemy, but then I would much prefer the non-core races to be mostly neutral and only have portions of their race join the faction. Take nightborne, most should be neutral, but only horde members allowed to play them because a faction of nightborne join the horde.. then the race can be used more appropiately in a way that fits it. Rather than hamfisting it into a faction.

it makes sense for Highmountain to support the Tauren - but horde/alliance war has got to be one of the silliest that only makes sense to humans and orcs , I don't see why everyone should suddenly forget they're intelligent and have a will of their own and get all their people sucked into a conflict every single time. Not to mention how it blocks decent development. Night elves are robbed of of their arcane development becuse the whole of the Nightborne went horde, and you can tell from their 7.0 quests that was not in the works, so what happens to the rest of that race's development? Squat, because we don't develop races after we make them playable..except as plot devices for more drama /rolleyes