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  1. #501
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    As I said previously, I think this is more a hard-pivot to resources directed at Shadowlands and making it a tour de force showing to make people forget about BfA. Which, on one hand, I don't disagree with on a personal level - but it shouldn't come from BfA's total sacrifice in quality, either. Basically this cinematic was phoned in because they want to make Shadowlands have a strong and epic-feeling first tier, recreating Legion after the stumble that was WoD.

    Going to be a lot of work, too.
    Can't wait for Shadowlands to suffer the same fate where it's a bombastic beginning and a lousy wet fart of an ending.

    Because everyone hooks on to a story just to see the beginning, of course. Nobody wants a satisfying ending.

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    btw, thank god we got 3 "Saurfang being sad"-cinematics. That is making this expansion worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Can't wait for Shadowlands to suffer the same fate where it's a bombastic beginning and a lousy wet fart of an ending.

    Because everyone hooks on to a story just to see the beginning, of course. Nobody wants a satisfying ending.
    There's hope they take an object lesson from this. I like to leaven my criticism with a fair bit of optimism wherever possible, assuming the worst at all times just ends up making me depressed.
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  4. #504
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    There's hope they take an object lesson from this. I like to leaven my criticism with a fair bit of optimism wherever possible, assuming the worst at all times just ends up making me depressed.
    I lost reason for that optimism long ago, but let's hope you're right.

    Since giving N'Zoth a good treatment now is out of the cards, I at least hope they're smart enough to end up spinning this as N'Zoth purposefully losing in order to fool the player character and the rest of Azeroth, giving him time to brew something up between now and Shadowlands. Visions of N'Zoth and all.

  5. #505
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    I lost reason for that optimism long ago, but let's hope you're right.

    Since giving N'Zoth a good treatment now is out of the cards, I at least hope they're smart enough to end up spinning this as N'Zoth purposefully losing in order to fool the player character and the rest of Azeroth, giving him time to brew something up between now and Shadowlands. Visions of N'Zoth and all.
    Why should we have any optimism regarding WoWs story? It's been an major let down for quite some time now. I have more faith in Blizz making the gameplay system more enjoyable again than writing a compelling story. Nobody is expecting top level writing here, but nowadays the story is less compelling than at the time Metzen was ripping off 80s Warhammer.
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    Better than legion's ending where the super hyped up big bad of the entire warcraft universe is randomly a fart cloud for some reason and he stabs Azeroth before being imprisoned by a perpetually emo elf. Anyone expecting Blizzard to come up with a great story hasn't been paying attention for the last ... oh ... since the 90s.
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  7. #507
    this ending had me like



    very underwhelming.

  8. #508
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    There is still the mythic only phase, which could very well have a cinematic we have yet to see at the end.
    We know Mythic has a secret phase third phase while skipping the Normal/Heroic first phase which may take place in a different environment with new mechanics, but I strongly doubt it has a completely different ending cinematic. Those are just too expensive and time-consuming to create just for one difficulty.

    I understand Blizzard trying to shift more resources to Shadowlands, but being this blatant about it is quite silly. Even WoD, which was obviously an expansion cut in half, had better closure than BFA, setting aside the ever-moronic DRAENOR IZ FREE nonsense.

  9. #509
    Quote Originally Posted by Hubbl3 View Post
    Why should we have any optimism regarding WoWs story? It's been an major let down for quite some time now. I have more faith in Blizz making the gameplay system more enjoyable again than writing a compelling story. Nobody is expecting top level writing here, but nowadays the story is less compelling than at the time Metzen was ripping off 80s Warhammer.
    Don't ask me. I just hope Aucald is right because I want to stop being disappointed, but personally speaking, I don't believe Shadowlands will be much better. Blizzard's team is filled with too many people who want to write third-rate capeshit shlock for them to write a coherent story not based around splintered fragments of shock and/or cool moments without substance.

  10. #510
    I hope the Shadowlands pre-patch ends up better than this patch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    I lost reason for that optimism long ago, but let's hope you're right.

    Since giving N'Zoth a good treatment now is out of the cards, I at least hope they're smart enough to end up spinning this as N'Zoth purposefully losing in order to fool the player character and the rest of Azeroth, giving him time to brew something up between now and Shadowlands. Visions of N'Zoth and all.
    The Old Gods are just parasites. Idk why people think they deserve more than any other bad guy in wow.

  11. #511
    N'zoth deserved to get a trial in Pandaria!

  12. #512
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    I'm not prepurchasing shadowlands after this cinematic. fuck you activision and fuck you bli$$ard [their corporate people, not the art team ex. music] for making such a shitty cinematic
    ... but the art team made this cinematic???

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    I hope the Shadowlands pre-patch ends up better than this patch.



    The Old Gods are just parasites. Idk why people think they deserve more than any other bad guy in wow.
    There was just a lot of hype around him because he was the last one and the one we knew the least about. That said, there has been a noticeable shift in direction, probably since they realized that in terms of enemies, we were running out of them. So they introduced the chart and to me it seems like the new direction is us going around toppling these new gods.

  14. #514
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    There's hope they take an object lesson from this. I like to leaven my criticism with a fair bit of optimism wherever possible, assuming the worst at all times just ends up making me depressed.
    That hope is about as warranted and is going to result in anything as hoping that pigs will start flying tomorrow.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Don't ask me. I just hope Aucald is right because I want to stop being disappointed, but personally speaking, I don't believe Shadowlands will be much better. Blizzard's team is filled with too many people who want to write third-rate capeshit shlock for them to write a coherent story not based around splintered fragments of shock and/or cool moments without substance.
    Having any level of hope for Blizzard is a really counterproductive way of avoiding disappointment.
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  15. #515
    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    I hope the Shadowlands pre-patch ends up better than this patch.



    The Old Gods are just parasites. Idk why people think they deserve more than any other bad guy in wow.
    The Jailer is just random death guy. I'll hold this same logic against people when 9.3 or 9.4 (or whatever the final patch is) handles him just as disappointingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    Having any level pf hope for Blizzard is a really counterproductive way of avoiding disappointment.
    Oh, I know. I've been a night elf fan and played through both MoP and BfA, after all.

    I just want to believe things can improve. Being cynical all the time gets draining, so while I definitely agree with you, I will try to find something to be hopeful about. Like the fact that now that N'Zoth has been tossed in the trash like nothing, it's unlikely that they'll do so again, so I can't be utterly disappointed by that again. See?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    You could, like, read the post you replied to. And not move the goalposts.
    Or, you could learn Illidan's lore before saying anything wrong.

  17. #517
    Quote Originally Posted by DemoBytom View Post
    So here's what happened. Includes spoilers for new raid:
    Horde players found Xalatath and deliveried it to Sylvanas.
    Sylvanas made a deal with Azshara that she will deliver Xalatath to her.
    That's what sparked 8.2 - Horde navy with Nathanos was going to Nazjatar for just that reason.
    Just as we crashed Nathanos fucked off with the dagger - turns out he went straight to Azshara.
    Azshara then lured us to her palace, and ultimately to N'Zoth's prison, so she could use our Heart of Azeroth to break the seals and free N'Zoth, and then stab him in the back with the dagger.
    But we didn't really comply, we beat the shit out of her but didn't stop chains from being broken - N'Zoth escaped, and snatched Azshara and the dagger with her.
    He realized she was going to betry him, so he put her in Ny'alotha to be tormented and punished.
    We arrive in Ny'alotha, kill her torturer, what's her name, and get the dagger from Azshara, where she explains it's the only way to stop him, nada nada nada.
    Wrathion takes it, stabs Carpace of N'Zoth and we get 2 last fights.
    We ignore what Azshara said, ultimately, and instead using dagger to imprison N'Zoth inside, we Azerite KAMEHAMEHA Wave him, Goku Style (RISE YOUR HANDS FOR CHAPION OF AZEROTH AND GIVE HIM YOUR ENERGY! \(^.^)/ )
    The. End?


    Meanwhile Sylvanas fucks off to fight Bolvar, because fuck it, why not? Probably would've been better explained in 8.3.5, but guess what? No 8.3.5..
    Thank you for that.

    So did he get stuck in the blade? Because the cinematic look like he exploded in the end after the kame wave hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    Thank you for that.

    So did he get stuck in the blade? Because the cinematic look like he exploded in the end after the kame wave hit.
    It's not really known. It will probably depend on whether they want him to resurface later on down the line, or are done with him entirely. N'Zoth's situation is not unlike Sargeras' post Legion. Maybe he's stuck forever in the Seat of the Pantheon/the Xal'atath Blade, and maybe he isn't. Time will tell.
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    I wasn't disappointing no one with the cinematic.

    Blizzard, however, disappointed me.
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    the only "positive" in your case is that, unlike Blizzard's writers, you aren't paid for that.

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