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  1. #81
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    Players wanting to remove things from the game for.... feelies. WTF.

    Bad enough Blizzard plays the "less is more thing" but players as well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segus1992 View Post
    As if this is an argument for why it shouldn't be removed. If there was a stat called "power" and it was the best for everyone while literally just giving % damage, would that be a good stat?
    What? You high? The premise of the question was that nobody cares about mastery. If that's not true, which it isn't, the question is silly, which was my point. I'm not interested in your pedantic sidetrack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by callipygoustp View Post
    Players wanting to remove things from the game for.... feelies. WTF.

    Bad enough Blizzard plays the "less is more thing" but players as well....
    And yet dumb kids keep crying about how Blizzard needs to listen to the players.

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    Mastery has the potential to give you different playstyles and it has in the past. Most masteries were changed to a flat X% per point buff for many specs, but there are still some that concentrate about core mechanics of a spec and are interesting to use.

    So no, make mastery interesting again, don't remove it.

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    It is telling from the responses that for some specs mastery is the most boring stat ever while for others it is the most interesting out of all of them.
    If you knew the candle was fire then the meal was cooked a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trend View Post
    And yet dumb kids keep crying about how Blizzard needs to listen to the players.
    If Blizzard would just listen to all players, all feedback, then all the problems would be solved. Right? Right.....

    "Blizzard never listens to me"

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    Bring Armor Pen back.
    2008 - 2018 World of Warcraft.
    Times change.

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    I didnt read the whole Thread.

    But correct me if I´m wrong. At the end of the day, you probably just Sim the StatWeights and use that.
    So, in that Case they could just use One Stat Called "Damage". ^^

  8. #88
    Versatility and Mastery are both dumb stats that shouldn't have existed.

    Interesting stats are only interesting if they are interesting. These aren't. Nothing stat wise in WoW has been interesting in ages because they've sucked the RPG out of the MMORPG a long time ago. May as fucking well go whole hog and just have "DAMAGE" "ARMOR" "MANA" "HEALTH". (Which, if I'm being brutally honest, is more than enough. No one cares about stats. They just care about what they need and if they have it.) That's what happens when you turn an RPG into an action/arcade-y game with vague RPG mechanics loosely duct taped onto it.

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    Nah, it could be more interesting for some specs though.

    What I really want is meaningful talents or ways to customize my playstyle and even create fun, viable "meme specs" like smite priest or scorch/ignite mage was.. or even TBC melee mage.

  10. #90
    they could create more interesting stats for mastery instead of it being 50% of versatility.

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    Mastery is fine; maybe for individual specs it's simply not strong enough or could even be another ability completely, but overall, i love mastery.

    Versatility on the other hand is an insullt towards the players. It was rushed in when they needed a quick replacement for other secondaries they removed. Fine. But 6 years in and that band-aid is still there. How much more time do they need to give us an actual new secondary instead of this primary-in-disguise? Whenever i get an item with vers on it i still feel like the devs are telling me "Look, we could have put an actual secondary on this item....but we simply did not give enough of a fuck."

    Edit: I am well aware that mathematically speaking Versatility is a multiplier while Primary Stat is just an addition. I also understand why that makes the stat desireable for people who only care about the numbers and nothing else. My complaint is that if vers was gone and we had higher crit/haste/mastery% values to get to the same power-level we are now with vers....there would actually be a noticeable change in your gameplay. Specs would feel and play much more interesting. Faster, more procs. That is what i want from my gear. Versatility does not do that. It simply multiplies your primaries with absolutely no gameplay effect.
    Last edited by Nathasil; 2020-01-24 at 11:02 PM.

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