Sanders Supporters Use Russian Facebook Tactics to Divide Dems

[Yadryonych]

OP is on a mindless anti-Sanders crusade because Washington Post and Warren told him "Sanders is a bigot" and believed it.

Just another upper middle-class privileged person who doesn't want harm to come to corporations and the neoliberal status quo.

That's a rule of a thumb: whoever poses a threat to DNC's favoured candidate's superiority immediately becomes a Russian agent

[Dsonsion]

Did the DNC establishment just pull the Russia card on Sanders?
Way to go, this will surely not backfire nor take credibility away from the investigation into Trump's campaign. As always, the liberals are glad to directly or indirectly give power to the fascists they claim to hate if that keeps the dirty leftists at bay.

[Grimbold21]

You become what you despise

[Collegeguy]

Maybe the Joker was right and these dems.. these civilized people, they'll eat each other.

[Cizr]

As long as its just talk and posting memes I would not be concerned. It will only help current president to get re-elected.

[Wilian]

Jesus fucking Christ

[JohnBrown1917]

The single most monumentally progressive action America can take is electing someone that isn't Donald Trump in the next election.

Full. Stop.

Whether that's Warren, Bernie, Biden... whoever... is basically wholly immaterial compared to accomplishing that. Anyone truly interested in progress should have that figured out by now.

And if they haven't, they're only in it for the team sports angle. And that's Trump supporter ideology right there.

Replacing a racist senile man with a slightly less racist senile man wont change much.

[Saucexorzski]

That's how authoritarian left wingers work, you are the bests of allies until you are no longer needed. then, you are the enemy you always were.

[Wilian]

Tomorrow we will have breaking news; Sanders Campaign served fresh fetuses during a dinner.

[JohnBrown1917]

That's how authoritarian left wingers work, you are the bests of allies until you are no longer needed. then, you are the enemy you always were.

lol actually thinking the centre-right where ever allies to any left-wing group.

[PC2]

The internet is an all out battle zone with competing information. May as well embrace it sense you can't truly regulate an anonymous platform where making accounts is free.

[Shalcker]

The internet is an all out battle zone with competing information. May as well embrace it sense you can't truly regulate an anonymous platform where making accounts is free.

This particular "threat" is not from anonymous accounts though - it's from people with long history who quite openly support Sanders (and disparage other candidates).

And attempts to smear people by association (be that with Russians or transfobia) regardless of their personal stances or policies.

[Kaleredar]

Replacing a racist senile man with a slightly less racist senile man wont change much.

Yes, it will.

What not removing trump from office will do is far more damaging than not getting your perfect dream candidate would ever accomplish.

1) it demonstrates that trump’s illegal actions have no consequences. It shifts trump’s tactics and rhetoric to being the norm for American politics.

2) it demonstrates to foreign powers that they are free to influence US elections as they wish.

3) it demonstrates to US allies that the American people do not care for them any more than trump does, and cannot be relied upon.

4) it validates to the violent white supremacist members of trump’s base that the American people support them.

5) It allows trump to install as many crony judges and government officials as he can. Why should anyone stop him? Obviously, the American people wanted that, no?

6) trump, aided by these will begin to systematically deinstall checks on his power and further gerrymander and disenfranchise for the benefit of the Republican Party. And again, why should anyone oppose him? He’s what the American people wanted. You think change is hard to invoke now? What happens as it gets more and more difficult to elect democrats... period?

Those things are all far more damaging to America in the long run that not adequately “sticking it to the man with a properly liberal president.”


Getting “a less bad guy than the other guy” is exactly what politics is about. Call it cynicism if you want; I call it realism.

You get zero points for “withholding your vote.” You think the republicans will “respect your choice” and extend you some form of legislative merit because you stuck to what you believed in? No. They’ll wipe their brows and be thankful you were so easy to defeat, and then never think about you again.

It’s a matter of “well this one guy doesn’t give me everything I want... but this other guy actively works against everything I stand for.” Politics is a tug of war. If you’re eschewing a victory of an inch because you wanted a mile... you’re a moron.

[JohnBrown1917]

Yes, it will.

What not removing trump from office will do is far more damaging than not getting your perfect dream candidate would ever accomplish.

Sanders is perfect? In what world?

It’s a matter of “well this one guy doesn’t give me everything I want... but this other guy actively works against everything I stand for.” Politics is a tug of war. If you’re eschewing a victory of an inch because you wanted a mile... you’re a moron.

Biden or Trump?
As horrible as Trump is, people need to stop pretending that Biden will bring any in any progressive policy.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Honestly if you are someone that believes much of what you see on social media than I hope you are documenting it so in the future when kids asked why the world was so fucked up in the early to mid 2000's they can have a actual list of names to blame instead of just a vegue "of the times" statement.

[Kaleredar]

Sanders is perfect? In what world?

He’s the knight in shimmering armor, whom you will eschew all other courters for, and are willing to sit in a dragon infested keep for all eternity until his vaunted arrival in this narrative.

Biden or Trump?

And does electing Biden or Warren do all those other things I listed, to? No. It does not. It actively undoes them.

Crushing trump by itself will do far more to move America forward than any pithy single candidate’s platform. You think progress in America is so slow (or under trump, actively moving backwards) because democrats haven’t gotten liberal enough? Who do you think is actively fighting liberal democrats? It’s republicans. That you’re willing to just hand them more power (yes, abstaining from voting is doing that) makes me doubt your resolve on the issue. That you see politics as a talking head team sport is the very notion of how a trump supporter works.

I find it interesting you show no concern for the other points I enumerated upon. Is yours an opinion that “nah, none of those things matter... we gotta stick it to the corporations! If we can’t do that, those other things are better than... not having stuck it to a corporation!” Which, of course, would be a myopically short sighted and self-damaging political platform, the sign of an impotent ideologue more interested in narrative than result.

And if that’s how you approach politics, I hope you like losing, because it’s going to be happening. A lot.

[JohnBrown1917]

He’s the knight in shimmering armor, whom you will eschew all other courters for, and are willing to sit in a dragon infested keep for all eternity until his vaunted arrival in this narrative.

Lol wtf is this sort of bullshit hyperbole, Sanders is a centre-left candidate at best, kiddo.

Crushing trump by itself will do far more to move America forward than any pithy single candidate’s platform. You think progress in America is so slow (or under trump, actively moving backwards) because democrats haven’t gotten liberal enough? Who do you think is actively fighting liberal democrats? It’s republicans. That you’re willing to just hand them more power (yes, abstaining from voting is doing that) makes me doubt your resolve on the issue. That you see politics as a talking head team sport is the very notion of how a trump supporter works.

Things will also go backwards under Biden, just slower. And this is about Selecting Sanders over Biden, so calm down. But you know what team sports is? Voting blue no matter what, you just want to see the blue team no matter what politics they support. Not even trying to get a better candidate.

I find it interesting you show no concern for the other points I enumerated upon. Is yours an opinion that “nah, none of those things matter... we gotta stick it to the corporations! If we can’t do that, those other things are better than... not having stuck it to a corporation!” Which, of course, would be a myopically short sighted and self-damaging political platform, the sign of an impotent ideologue more interested in narrative than result.

And by voting for Biden you'll stick it.. to whom again? Is it because Biden is slighly less racist? Yeah wow, much progress.

And if that’s how you approach politics, I hope you like losing, because it’s going to be happening. A lot.

Biden winning is also a loss to anybody who is not rich, and to the rest of the world who get harmed by the endless wars from the US.


Not caring about the politics of the candidates is exactly the same as cheering on a sports team, but its somehow the people who actually have political opinions beyond "trump bad" who are doing it? What a projection.

[Kaleredar]

Lol wtf is this sort of bullshit hyperbole, Sanders is a centre-left candidate at best, kiddo.

And yet you feel he's worth staking an all-or-nothing viewpoint over? That's the impression I get.

Things will also go backwards under Biden, just slower.

I really doubt that the systems we have in place now that are actively being compromised by Trump and the blind eyes the GOP are turning towards it would denigrate under any of the democratic frontrunners.

And this is about Selecting Sanders over Biden, so calm down.

Creating this sort of "Bernie or no one" narrative is actively damaging to any real progress in the United States and frankly quite childish.

But you know what team sports is? Voting blue no matter what, you just want to see the blue team no matter what politics they support. Not even trying to get a better candidate.

The best candidate is the one who will be elected at this point in time.

Because having a stellar message, but not being elected, as I said... amounts to nothing.

And by voting for Biden you'll stick it.. to whom again? Is it because Biden is slighly less racist? Yeah wow, much progress.

By electing a democrat you "stick it" to Trump, and the republican party. I'm not in this to "metaphorically" stick it to anyone; my interest is in actually removing the real and present danger to the United States and the world that is Donald Trump.

Biden winning is also a loss to anybody who is not rich, and to the rest of the world who get harmed by the endless wars from the US.

Any democrat winning puts a major kibosh on the Republican train of disenfranchisement, the solicitation of election interference, and the general degradation of the political process that they inspire. This in turn, by merit of democrats being more popular with young people and growing minority populations, allows more democrat representatives to be elected in the future.

Progress will not come from one magical person at the helm. You need a major overhaul of the system to change it. Biden or Warren or whoever might not be your cup of tea, but the judges they can install, the people they can get to helm their cabinets, and the traction they give other Democrats are where that change will ultimately be made.

Not caring about the politics of the candidates is exactly the same as cheering on a sports team, but its somehow the people who actually have political opinions beyond "trump bad" who are doing it? What a projection.

You have to tackle big-picture issues before little ones. And "Trump bad" IS the major hurdle right now.

You're focused on training to run a marathon, when in reality you're in a rain-soaked ditch covered in mud with both your legs cut off. There are more immediate problems that need addressing.

[Machismo]

Anyone pushing the BernieBro myth is acting like Sanders minority supporters are invisible, and seem to ignorant that Bernie has more Female Support of those under the age of 45.

https://mavenroundtable.io/community...NUysVyoQ-13CAQ

This goes to people on this forum, social media, and media in general if you are using the BernieBro narrative you are being lazy, stupid, racist, and sexist.

I think people are referring to the Bernie Bros in these threads, who are really just Trump supporters.

I always thought it was a reference to dudes who were outraged that he lost, and voted for Trump as a protest, then was embraced by the Trumpsters to pretend to be liberals or moderates.

[PC2]

I think people are referring to the Bernie Bros in these threads, who are really just Trump supporters.

Don't worry about who you believe is "disguised" as who. If you independantly reason about the content/merit of a post then the source of a post never matters.