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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Thankfully - BfA doesn't have that problem... I'd stop playing what ever game as turned into a job for you there.
    BfA absolutely has that problem. So did Legion. In order to be even remotely competitive in the content I enjoy doing(raids and M+), I have to do WQs, PvP, dailies, islands and long story quests on every character in order to get AP, essences and gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pppbroom View Post
    No, I'm living in a house, thank you for asking, I assume you're the one living there judging your rudeness. I've switched to an arcane mage and all I need is resonance (do island expeditions), pvp one (do some ranked arenas), beam (from mythic) and new ones from question in Visions. It literally took me a day to get all of them and my dps didn't dramatically jumped because they are not essential. I don't wanna read your comments, so please don't bother answering.
    So you're only missing the AP one(which happens more or less naturally, I guess) and Rustbolt to have the main ones to swap between, and maybe BotE for M+. All R3, of course.
    And obviously Lucid once you switch to the objectively more powerful Fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reman View Post
    Not to mention that in the coming weeks with the increased Catch-up mechanic, alts may have neck at lvl 75 by just doing intro content.
    The baseline of the neck is 50, it is not that difficult to get to at least 70 now doing minimal content. I do nothing more than dailies and world quest and have 14 characters with a neck to at least level 70, that was before 8.3 dropped. It sounds like you like to whine about doing content and doing so on a boosted character. You are lucky from the standpoint of not having to grind out all 120 levels on that character.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Apexis View Post
    The baseline of the neck is 50, it is not that difficult to get to at least 70 now doing minimal content. I do nothing more than dailies and world quest and have 14 characters with a neck to at least level 70, that was before 8.3 dropped. It sounds like you like to whine about doing content and doing so on a boosted character. You are lucky from the standpoint of not having to grind out all 120 levels on that character.
    Non-boosted characters need to go from 35, which takes a while because neck levels don't go below 1k AP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schweddy View Post
    How did you manage to unlock the cloak at lvl 110
    Easy! I did it by being 10 levels higher than 110 (which was obviously a typo).

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiddie View Post
    It’s not a difficulty issue, it’s a TIME issue.

    It’s unbelievable how after 15 years nolifers cannot understand that there are GOOD players that simply don’t have ENDLESS TIME to play so everything that avoids doing the same thing 800 times is more than welcome.
    Said while running the same raids over and over, the same dungeons, the same quests/leveling experience etc, etc....

    And while my large number of characters might come across as 'nolifing' WoW, I generally only play 2 or 3 hours a day - I make time for other games, fitness, art etc. The difference between me and some people here is that I make smart use of that time, as opposed to spending portions of it whining on a forum about every little thing in WoW that isn't just the way I'd like it to be.

    Also I didn't realize that people had to get to Friendly w/Mechagon 800 times to unlock level 1 essences, my sincerest apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    Why do these players without TIME have the desire to play 10 alts?
    This account wide shit needs to stop.
    It's a damn alt, it's not attaching 3 extra specs to your character.
    Nailed it.

    "Reeeee I don't have time to do the same shit over and over, but I want to play 20 toons all with rank 4 essences and mythic raid gear, now now NOW!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Nailed it.

    "Reeeee I don't have time to do the same shit over and over, but I want to play 20 toons all with rank 4 essences and mythic raid gear, now now NOW!"
    Yeah, weird how people want to spend their play time on content they enjoy(raids, for example) instead of shit content they don't enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiih View Post
    imagine defending current essence system xd can only have an awful boring real life if you actually enjoy doing some time gated repetitive for 370 ilvl scaled content every day for a month.

    not even classic rep farms are this bad because you can do them at your own pace and dont have to do daily garbage which is btw because of MAU same as why you get rewarded and daily quests in every braindead mobile game.


    so i started with patch 8.3 again after years and now i have to wait 3resets for my conflict r3? wow such skills amazing
    Oh no 3 whole weeks! You poor thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradu View Post
    Yeah, weird how people want to spend their play time on content they enjoy(raids, for example) instead of shit content they don't enjoy.
    Yeah, oh and its weird how people seem to think WoW is a fast food order that should be made to go exactly the way they want it to be.

    And in case you missed it there's waaaaaaaaaaaay more people who aren't crying about essences for their alts, than people who are. But please, by all means continue explaining how awful and unreasonable spending a whole hour in Mechagon is to unlock essences, or a never-ending 15 minutes in a +4 anything to get Iris/anima etc.

    The horror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    Which is it? Make it account bound or speed it up? You can't argue both ways and flip flop based on responses.
    Hey now, moving the goalposts is a trademark of MMO-champion™ posters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyc81991 View Post
    The sad truth is Blizzard knows that 8.3 is the last patch they are putting out until Shadowlands and they see Essences as a way to get people to keep playing for longer so the sub drop off doesn't happen as fast. Blizzard doesn't care about good game mechanics or "fun". They care about numbers they can report to shareholders and money.

    They might add account wide essences 3 - 5 months from now after enough people leave in hopes of bringing a few back at that point but I wouldn't hold your breath.
    Because you've got all that data showing you that people are leaving in droves because of this, right?

    o wait
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  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    Why do these players without TIME have the desire to play 10 alts?
    This account wide shit needs to stop.
    It's a damn alt, it's not attaching 3 extra specs to your character.
    Because changing playstyle is fun?

    Almost every PG is somehow a main for people who have not much time.

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    I think this would be fair. I have only 2 alts that get played regularly, and that's two times I don't want to unlock them all again.
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  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Oh no 3 whole weeks! You poor thing.

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    Yeah, oh and its weird how people seem to think WoW is a fast food order that should be made to go exactly the way they want it to be.

    And in case you missed it there's waaaaaaaaaaaay more people who aren't crying about essences for their alts, than people who are. But please, by all means continue explaining how awful and unreasonable spending a whole hour in Mechagon is to unlock essences, or a never-ending 15 minutes in a +4 anything to get Iris/anima etc.

    The horror.

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    Hey now, moving the goalposts is a trademark of MMO-champion™ posters!

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    Because you've got all that data showing you that people are leaving in droves because of this, right?

    o wait
    Oh look, its a guy throwing rocks in a glass house how amusing!
    You go and tell people how they should enjoy the game, show them!

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Krewshi View Post
    Because you need to spend more time playing your characters and grinding out their essences to know how to play that class better
    Grinding essences doesnt really improve character play. Why do so many people hate making things easier for alts. Alts SHOULD have it easier 100% as its an alt, you already did the trailblazing and clearing on your main with no shortcuts. Should be better the second time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Except they make tons of changes based on player feedback, but people conveniently ignore that when the change they want doesn't happen.

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    Pretty much this.

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    Because it isn't difficult at all to get most rank 1 essences, that's why. I'm legit curious how some of you even functioned in vanilla/BC etc, back when literally EVERYTHING was done per character.
    Why do you care if it is easier for alts to get them. How does that hinder your gameplay in any fashion? Stop being stuckup for once in your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Except they make tons of changes based on player feedback, but people conveniently ignore that when the change they want doesn't happen.
    Right... player feedback uh huh sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampyrr View Post
    Grinding essences doesnt really improve character play. Why do so many people hate making things easier for alts. Alts SHOULD have it easier 100% as its an alt, you already did the trailblazing and clearing on your main with no shortcuts. Should be better the second time around.

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    Why do you care if it is easier for alts to get them. How does that hinder your gameplay in any fashion? Stop being stuckup for once in your life.
    Personal attacks, for those moments when you don't actually have a point to make.

    And alts already have it easier. Ever heard of heirlooms? BOA catch-up gear/mechanics like increased AK? The ability to use all of your mounts, pets, BOA rep tokens, BOA resource caches, etc?

    I get it though, none of that stuff exists because the game doesn't cater to this specific thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmightyGerkin View Post
    Right... player feedback uh huh sure.
    Practically every patch has had changes directly influenced by player feedback. For example: essences. They were a response to player feedback that the necklace was a piss-poor, passive replacement for Artifacts, which had interesting effects and active abilities. But hey, don't pull your head out of the sand on my account.

    Too bad we can't bottle hyperbole and sell it, this place would never run out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Personal attacks, for those moments when you don't actually have a point to make.

    And alts already have it easier. Ever heard of heirlooms? BOA catch-up gear/mechanics like increased AK? The ability to use all of your mounts, pets, BOA rep tokens, BOA resource caches, etc?

    I get it though, none of that stuff exists because the game doesn't cater to this specific thing.

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    Practically every patch has had changes directly influenced by player feedback. For example: essences. They were a response to player feedback that the necklace was a piss-poor, passive replacement for Artifacts, which had interesting effects and active abilities. But hey, don't pull your head out of the sand on my account.

    Too bad we can't bottle hyperbole and sell it, this place would never run out.
    Tis only the elitists who wanna die on the hill of if I had to struggle everyone has to keep struggling forever. There is 0 downside to helping alts have easier essences. Being alt unfriendly is a severe detriment to longevity of the game. It is casual unfriendly and those practices decrease player numbers. But if you wanna die on that hill so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Except they make tons of changes based on player feedback, but people conveniently ignore that when the change they want doesn't happen.

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    Pretty much this.

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    Because it isn't difficult at all to get most rank 1 essences, that's why. I'm legit curious how some of you even functioned in vanilla/BC etc, back when literally EVERYTHING was done per character.
    Well for one in Vanilla I still lived at home and had only a part time job wayyyy more free time vs now I have 2 jobs and live on my own so wayyyy less free time. Also there was a point in Vanilla and BC where you could be done. There was substantially less stuff to do and you could be maxed or at least maxed for the time being leaving a lot of time for alts. Your power came from gear which came from doing end game content so when saved on your main you were done until next reset. So it would actually be EASIER for alts then.

  14. #114
    The only Essences that shouldn't be Account Wide are rank 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Oh no 3 whole weeks! You poor thing.

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    Yeah, oh and its weird how people seem to think WoW is a fast food order that should be made to go exactly the way they want it to be.

    And in case you missed it there's waaaaaaaaaaaay more people who aren't crying about essences for their alts, than people who are. But please, by all means continue explaining how awful and unreasonable spending a whole hour in Mechagon is to unlock essences, or a never-ending 15 minutes in a +4 anything to get Iris/anima etc.

    The horror.

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    Hey now, moving the goalposts is a trademark of MMO-champion™ posters!

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    Because you've got all that data showing you that people are leaving in droves because of this, right?

    o wait

    yes 3 whole weeks my bis essence is gated behind a weekly pvp chest.

    no chance to influence it. care to explain how this is good design?

  16. #116
    He justified it perfectly well. I have 11 alts at level 120, and they all have an annoying "You have an empty essence slot!" alert.

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Personal attacks, for those moments when you don't actually have a point to make.

    And alts already have it easier. Ever heard of heirlooms? BOA catch-up gear/mechanics like increased AK? The ability to use all of your mounts, pets, BOA rep tokens, BOA resource caches, etc?

    I get it though, none of that stuff exists because the game doesn't cater to this specific thing.

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    Practically every patch has had changes directly influenced by player feedback. For example: essences. They were a response to player feedback that the necklace was a piss-poor, passive replacement for Artifacts, which had interesting effects and active abilities. But hey, don't pull your head out of the sand on my account.

    Too bad we can't bottle hyperbole and sell it, this place would never run out.
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    Do a +4 then a +7 for rank 2 iris, do the quests you will unlock very quickly to get rank 3 flame, use breath of the dying. Congrats, in less than a day you have some of the best essences a casual player should ever need

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Because it isn't difficult at all to get most rank 1 essences, that's why. I'm legit curious how some of you even functioned in vanilla/BC etc, back when literally EVERYTHING was done per character.
    If someone made a thread back in vanilla-Wrath that once you got full tier from a set all your alts should get the set, or even the 2pc bonus, automatically I can only imagine they'd be laughed out of the forums and told to stop asking for handouts. I wonder what's changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    3 hours is a big chuck of time? This is one of the most entitled things that has ever been said on this website.

    It negatively affects everyone because this is an item used for power. It is exactly the same as if your main character was allowed to copy their own gear and pass it down to Alts. And when I say copy, I mean that weapon restrictions and armour restrictions don't apply here. Hunter pants copies to pants for every class. A bow copies to a weapon or two for every class.

    If it isn't as obvious to some people as it is for people who actually use their brain then there is also the argument of don't be fucking lazy. You don't deserve it

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    He justifies it poorly. Showing a screenshot with an explanation on how he didn't do any work at all to get any esscences is not justifying it well. The same failed argument told in a different way is not justifying it well.
    I don't know why you're being so aggressive about this it's not that big of a deal. It wouldn't hurt anyone's ego to just make rank 1's account wide as the rank 2's and 3's are where real effort is needed. You need to relax and stop being so angry
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