Blizzard have zero respect towards the playerbase

[Gouca]

What other conclusion can you draw from this?

• Bots being neglected in both PvP and gold farms
• Weekly hotfixes to counter organized PvP
• Overall faction-biased #changes
• Vague and loose interpretation of CoC by GMs
• Zero conversation with the community
• Ticket delays at 6-7 days

Haven't played in retail in nearly a decade, when did the downfall get this bad?

[Daedius]

Bots are barely noticeable in Retail at least.

[spalernTJ]

Outside of Vanilla WoW, do not forget: Diablo: Immortal, Warcraft 3 Reforged, Blitzchung, BFA, Overwatch 2. Blizzard has absolutely zero respect for its playerbase.

It happened gradually over a long period of time. Blizzard is an old company, and it's not the developers or enthusiastic gamers that are calling the shots anymore, it's the marketing department.

[Naiattavain]

i advise everyone to find another game to play. wow had its day in the sun and now its just really bad.

[unbound]

What other conclusion can you draw from this?

• Bots being neglected in both PvP and gold farms
• Weekly hotfixes to counter organized PvP
• Overall faction-biased #changes
• Vague and loose interpretation of CoC by GMs
• Zero conversation with the community
• Ticket delays at 6-7 days

Haven't played in retail in nearly a decade, when did the downfall get this bad?

It's been a steady decay over the past decade or so.

As for Classic, you have to understand what Blizz was doing with it. They didn't do it because of passion for the game, or to even provide a good alternative for players that prefer the game that was. This was all about cashing in. They did it as cheap as possible with the sole intent of getting a quick 1 or 2 million subs so that their financials would look better. Most of your list has to do with them not willing to hire sufficient resources to support an active game.

[TommiTMX]

It's been a steady decay over the past decade or so.

As for Classic, you have to understand what Blizz was doing with it. They didn't do it because of passion for the game, or to even provide a good alternative for players that prefer the game that was. This was all about cashing in. They did it as cheap as possible with the sole intent of getting a quick 1 or 2 million subs so that their financials would look better. Most of your list has to do with them not willing to hire sufficient resources to support an active game.

This is wrong. Doing it as cheap as possible would have been using the 1.12 client with the 1.12 server they have running internally without any security patches, longstanding bug fixes, Battle.net implementation and working with the old spaghetti code.

As for the OP.

There was a bot banwave in the last few weeks.
Organized PvP in a game not designed for organized PvP is detrimental to the experience of most players
Which faction biased changes?
Examples?

The last two are definitely something a bit more prevalent across all Blizzard games, they cut support staff and tried to automate many of their support functions. Part of the "communication with players" issue came from the fact that when Ghostcrawler made constant attempts to engage with the playerbase he was met with nothing but contempt and loathing because he was the one conversing not because he could solely change the direction of the game. Much of the vocal "gamers" act like dicks a lot of the time which makes anything outside of formal communication a source of toxicity.

I don't agree with a lot of what Blizzard do, but some of the blame for the mess we're in now is definitely on players.

[Ghostile]

i advise everyone to find another game to play. wow had its day in the sun and now its just really bad.

Still the best mmo If you want PvP or Raid.

[lordzed83]

What other conclusion can you draw from this?

• Bots being neglected in both PvP and gold farms
• Weekly hotfixes to counter organized PvP
• Overall faction-biased #changes
• Vague and loose interpretation of CoC by GMs
• Zero conversation with the community
• Ticket delays at 6-7 days

Haven't played in retail in nearly a decade, when did the downfall get this bad?

Haven't played in retail in nearly a decade <----- says it all. It's been shit for years. I'd say smetime in CATA

[Ghostile]

Outside of Vanilla WoW, do not forget: Diablo: Immortal, Warcraft 3 Reforged, Blitzchung, BFA, Overwatch 2. Blizzard has absolutely zero respect for its playerbase.

It happened gradually over a long period of time. Blizzard is an old company, and it's not the developers or enthusiastic gamers that are calling the shots anymore, it's the marketing department.

1. Fuck blizzard wanting to try something they new. (and they toned it down after the western reception.

2. Agree somewhat, its weird but nothing to burn the HQ over.

3. Rules are rules. Had they put one person above the rest would have been worse.

4. They wouldnt be actively trying to fix it If they had no respect for their customers


5. ?????

[Leefa]

There was a bot banwave in the last few weeks.

If blizzard really wanted to ban them, they could have 1 guy checking reports in real-time and it would litterally take them <3 minutes to determine if they were botting or not. There is simply no need to ban anyone in "waves" - this is only done to make people think you punish bots severely. Then again Blizzard has a reason to let them go - they still pay for their account, so banning them lowers revenue.

[Dziubla]

I look at the state of the so called "community", and I ask myself...any particular reason why Blizzard SHOULD respect these people?

[Mirishka]

This is wrong. Doing it as cheap as possible would have been using the 1.12 client with the 1.12 server they have running internally without any security patches, longstanding bug fixes, Battle.net implementation and working with the old spaghetti code.

As for the OP.

There was a bot banwave in the last few weeks.
Organized PvP in a game not designed for organized PvP is detrimental to the experience of most players
Which faction biased changes?
Examples?

The last two are definitely something a bit more prevalent across all Blizzard games, they cut support staff and tried to automate many of their support functions. Part of the "communication with players" issue came from the fact that when Ghostcrawler made constant attempts to engage with the playerbase he was met with nothing but contempt and loathing because he was the one conversing not because he could solely change the direction of the game. Much of the vocal "gamers" act like dicks a lot of the time which makes anything outside of formal communication a source of toxicity.

I don't agree with a lot of what Blizzard do, but some of the blame for the mess we're in now is definitely on players.

Most sensible post in this topic.

[Understarmor]

Blizzard HAS no respect towards the playerbase

NOT

Blizzard HAVE no respect....

why is this distinction so fucking hard...?

[Mirishka]

If blizzard really wanted to ban them, they could have 1 guy checking reports in real-time and it would litterally take them <3 minutes to determine if they were botting or not. There is simply no need to ban anyone in "waves" - this is only done to make people think you punish bots severely. Then again Blizzard has a reason to let them go - they still pay for their account, so banning them lowers revenue.

Its fun when people post stuff like this without having any idea what they're talking about. Utterly clueless.

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Blizzard HAS no respect towards the playerbase

NOT

Blizzard HAVE no respect....

why is this distinction so fucking hard...?

English isn't everyone's first language, stop whining.

And frankly the grammar/punctuation/etc in some of your posts is terrible, so maybe don't attack people's writing when your own wouldn't get you a passing grade in middle school.

[Xalvia]

this is what you get when you cut costs and have no quality assurance

[Hyeonh]

They had zero respect for a very long time. WOD was when I came to that realization that they don't really regard player feedback that high unless they are backed into a corner.

[Nefastus]

Outside of Vanilla WoW, do not forget: Diablo: Immortal, Warcraft 3 Reforged, Blitzchung, BFA, Overwatch 2. Blizzard has absolutely zero respect for its playerbase.

It happened gradually over a long period of time. Blizzard is an old company, and it's not the developers or enthusiastic gamers that are calling the shots anymore, it's the marketing department.

To me old Blizzard died during the expansion of diablo II. As much as the gameplay was good you can see how story quality went down. Warcraft 3 even if I liked had a similar plot to Starcraft. WoW vanilla was nice but was generic story wise, they didnt go deep in it and from TBC on it became a mess. I guess all the quality work came from Blizzard North.

[Tavin]

All these "wow is ending" "blizz has no respect for players" threads are so amusing to read.

Please keep this coming, I'm ready to read and laugh.

[Monster Hunter]

Been a long long time since I've seen bots in retail.

What's this got to do with retail anyway? These problems seem classic specific.

[tankbug]

Haven't played in retail in nearly a decade, when did the downfall get this bad?

When they fired 800 people, I would say. I don't see any of these issues as a casual in retail, though. I guess that's what they prioritize.