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  1. #861
    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Alleria became ten times easier for me the moment I realized that I can just right-click the bombs to kick them out of the way.
    Had no idea you could do that...

  2. #862
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeMeLaugh View Post
    Had no idea you could do that...
    Yeah, I felt kind of dumb when I realized I could do that. I mean, that stunted, malformed midget Kelsey Steelspark actually shows you can do that when she kicks out the first bomb volley from the Dwarven District's boss. I just never noticed that because I just immediately charge the guy while the bombs are still in the air.
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  3. #863
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    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    Saw a video of a massive tip for that area. After the bear mini boss you can just mount out, go out of bounds, while taking a bit of damage, and arrive right at Rexxar's hut. There's really no need to kill anything else in that wing.

    https://youtu.be/RpyI7AZik1c?t=390

    Honestly it's kind of weird how something so massive is just lying in this random underviewed video. I haven't seen anyone else even acknowledge this strat.
    Hehe..yeah..I saw it in some other videos, too...not sure but I guess the youtuber Dratnos discovered it? Still risky...you need some self heal and mobility

    Anyhow...also what might help are invisibility potions if you can't stealth and Grilled Gnasher food apparently makes you almost undetectable to a certain range (didn't test it myself though)

  4. #864
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Hehe..yeah..I saw it in some other videos, too...not sure but I guess the youtuber Dratnos discovered it? Still risky...you need some self heal and mobility

    Anyhow...also what might help are invisibility potions if you can't stealth and Grilled Gnasher food apparently makes you almost undetectable to a certain range (didn't test it myself though)
    You don't need any of those, just mount up and run.

  5. #865
    Now that there's no limit on coalescing visions, I'm not doing Stormwind at all. Screw that noise.

    I don't care about achievements, mounts, etc, now. Plan to do all that stuff in a year at level 60.

  6. #866
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoide View Post
    Now that there's no limit on coalescing visions, I'm not doing Stormwind at all. Screw that noise.

    I don't care about achievements, mounts, etc, now. Plan to do all that stuff in a year at level 60.
    Unless they remove it

    But yeah...I am thinking of skipping SW as well...but eventually will tackle it...not least to get the masks from there.

  7. #867
    At the moment I am hard pressed to make a full clear with two masks on, so its certainly providing a challenge.

    I enjoy doing them for the cloak upgrades and a few times a week just to try and see if I can improve my mask runs.

  8. #868
    If they plan to remove anything we'll get tons of notice. They never surprise players with that. Well, not since Naxx in WoTLK anyway.

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    I finished SW with 5 masks as well. Visions we're a good experience overall , hope they make torghast way more awesome and harder, way harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage Alodi View Post
    I finished SW with 5 masks as well. Visions we're a good experience overall , hope they make torghast way more awesome and harder, way harder.
    Before they do that, they need to work on class balance. The difference between various specs are enormous, especially if Torghast regains this "short, bursty aoe encounters" approach, which really screws some classes over.

  11. #871
    Yes. It's cool solo or party content that you can min max to complete with potions, routes, buffs and the like. The game needs more stuff like this.

  12. #872
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeMeLaugh View Post
    I did 5 masks stormwind solo with my enhanc shaman. Stormwind just sucks, everything. Alleria as melee is horrible. It wasn't too hard overall, I was being overly cautious with orbs using them more for safety measures than necessity.
    I've found that Alleria is mostly a test of patience as melee. She's annoying to actually get much uptime on, but as long as you play it slow and safe there's not much she can actually do to you. If you prioritise LoSing her with pillars and keeping your back to the eye then everything else is pretty easy to avoid, and the passive sanity drain in the starting area is so low at current cloak levels that there's little risk of running out. The only really dangerous moments I've found are when she casts polymorph in an awkward location, at which point it's a good idea to risk rushing in to interrupt her. She takes a long time, but I found Umbric way scarier to 5-mask with this week's affixes.

  13. #873
    Quote Originally Posted by keymil View Post
    You people pay waaaay too much attention to "others" (be it players, corruptions, classes). Now, I'm not saying dh aren't op (they are), but me, a bala druid, could literally care less. All I care about is me, having fun, not some contest in dick measuring.
    I mean. I'm not playing the game anymore because my main isn't fun anymore? Sounds like a valid reason to not play if I'm not enjoying the game. I was merely trying one of my many alts, 3 of which I've played since BC/wrath but also no longer enjoy after bfa gutted everything. Also not sure where in my post I was dick measuring.

    DH is also part of the problem. Having a toolkit that can literally do everything vs specs that have clear disadvantages in certain scenarios is poor game design, and not even addressing clear issues after leaving them alone for a year and a half.
    Last edited by effs; 2020-03-04 at 08:46 PM.

  14. #874
    Quote Originally Posted by Shefu View Post
    Just another repetitive system. Fun one time, then it's grind grind grind.
    yeah that's where I'm at. It's just to much of the same thing again and again.

  15. #875
    Everything about them is designed to be frustrating. Doing them with masks is stressful, exhausting and not fun whatsoever. I don't feel accomplished when I complete it, I'm just glad it's over. I definitely didn't feel like this with the mage tower challenges because they weren't designed to tilt you.

    Constant slows, stuns, sanity drains. Matthias Shaw is a stupidly designed fight, in fact everything about Old Town and even the Mage Quarter is awful. I can't even dispel the -30% haste poison that the rogues put on me even though I have a spell that dispells poisons...
    Last edited by Jamie081; 2020-03-04 at 10:02 PM.

  16. #876
    I completely agree. They aren't so much difficult as just super freaking annoying. I don't find being annoyed fun. But if others like them, that's great, all aspects of the game aren't for me personally.

  17. #877
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondercrab View Post
    I've found that Alleria is mostly a test of patience as melee. She's annoying to actually get much uptime on, but as long as you play it slow and safe there's not much she can actually do to you. If you prioritise LoSing her with pillars and keeping your back to the eye then everything else is pretty easy to avoid, and the passive sanity drain in the starting area is so low at current cloak levels that there's little risk of running out. The only really dangerous moments I've found are when she casts polymorph in an awkward location, at which point it's a good idea to risk rushing in to interrupt her. She takes a long time, but I found Umbric way scarier to 5-mask with this week's affixes.
    Really? I think Umbric ended up being a sanity gain for me now after that nerf.
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  18. #878
    Vision are funny if you are using and ez class for them like DH or Hunter or any Tank.

    A turbo disease if you are like spriest with no tech tree + leaden foot + sw

    So eh nothing really amusing if this is the BFA tower mage, it is a no for me.

  19. #879
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    Vision are funny if you are using and ez class for them like DH or Hunter or any Tank.

    A turbo disease if you are like spriest with no tech tree + leaden foot + sw

    So eh nothing really amusing if this is the BFA tower mage, it is a no for me.
    Dot classes are good in SW as dots tick for full damage when umbric has his ice shit up.
    Maybe you're just bad

  20. #880
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Really? I think Umbric ended up being a sanity gain for me now after that nerf.
    What spec do you play? Or can you just burst him fast enough that he doesn't get to cast much? Now that he teleports less I've found I don't have a choice but to eat at least one or two polymorphs/missiles over the course of the fight in between interrupts.

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