BWL world first progression thread

[Relapses]

nope, clearly all those guilds clearing it logged on right at release just because. deff not because they were racing for first.

It's not really worth the bragging rights though. It's like pushing your way to the front of the line at the slide that goes into the ballpit at McDonald's.

I typically argue against time elapsed from entrance of the instance as a difficulty barometer; but given how ludicrously farmed this content is, I think it's the only reasonable metric to actually determine the skill of the players completing the content.

[tikcol]

These people didn't have any idea what was happening on the private server scene TBH. They were judging it based on their memory of vanilla, which was very fallible and didn't take many things into consideration.

People need to understand once and for all that vanilla wow wasn't hard and having pservers guilds that have been doing nothing else besides playing overtuned versions of the game for the past 5 years is completely overkill. Because if we're going to believe Blizzard(which I find no reason not to) that their numbers are accurate then 99% of all "blizzlike" pservers were mostly overtuned.

The game has been solved a long time

[FlubberPuddy]

This shit is hilarious. Congrats to all the guilds clearing it in less than an hour!

[Mukind]

Wow you were basically right on the money

i might've seen this race once or twice before with some of the same players lol

[Zyky]

It won't be that simple, we don't know the values Blizzard uses in Classic. There have been rumors about BWL buffs.

WOW SO BUFFED! Took 42 minutes to clear it lmfao.

[munkeyinorbit]

It's not really worth the bragging rights though. It's like pushing your way to the front of the line at the slide that goes into the ballpit at McDonald's.

I typically argue against time elapsed from entrance of the instance as a difficulty barometer; but given how ludicrously farmed this content is, I think it's the only reasonable metric to actually determine the skill of the players completing the content.

But imagine being that guild that is suppose to be the best there is and has dominated for years and then coming 3rd because their players couldn't be assed logging in on time.

[Kanegasi]

But imagine being that guild that is suppose to be the best there is and has dominated for years and then coming 3rd because their players couldn't be assed logging in on time.

Just to be devil's advocate, but APES lost by literally 8 seconds. They're also technically 2nd because the first two tied for first. 8 seconds is nothing to a retail world first.

[PrairieChicken]

Remember all the people who were like "lol all the Wrathbabies and Cata scrubs are gonna be in for a surprise with Classic" nonstop?

B... but... patch 1.12 exists! These BC/Wrath/Cata/MoP/WoD/Leg/BfA crybabies will never understand the true horrors of Vanilla raiding before the "nerf"!

[Relapses]

But imagine being that guild that is suppose to be the best there is and has dominated for years and then coming 3rd because their players couldn't be assed logging in on time.

/shrug

Can't blame them. Garbage content deserves garbage motivation.

[RomanceDawn]

Vanilla hard lol lol
All the new players had no idea how hardcore vanilla was lol lol

40min clear, hahahha, rofl

[arkanon]

Vanilla hard lol lol
All the new players had no idea how hardcore vanilla was lol lol

40min clear, hahahha, rofl

around 30 is the fastest actually. Just in this first lockout i mean.

[Pohut]

There must've been a stealth nerf to BWL. Or some kind of an exploit. I can't see a legit guild clearing the raid this fast. There is something else going on. Some kind of sabotage from a competitor?

[david0925]

There must've been a stealth nerf to BWL. Or some kind of an exploit. I can't see a legit guild clearing the raid this fast. There is something else going on. Some kind of sabotage from a competitor?

well played. Unless srs

[arkanon]

There must've been a stealth nerf to BWL. Or some kind of an exploit. I can't see a legit guild clearing the raid this fast. There is something else going on. Some kind of sabotage from a competitor?

Who knows these days, im sure there are big dollars involved with a world first.

[Relapses]

around 30 is the fastest actually. Just in this first lockout i mean.

Perhaps we should begin measuring Classic raid difficulty by the length of time it takes to zone in and auto walk to the end of the instance.

[Xemioza]

Op is the biggest troll in history of these forums xd

“Days!!” To clear xd

I lold at comments in this thread.

And the guy stating that “classic was neverabout the raiding but about the journey” i almost died hahahahah xd

[Hobbidaggy]

It won't be that simple, we don't know the values Blizzard uses in Classic. There have been rumors about BWL buffs.

NARRATOR: It was that simple

[The Oblivion]

Then what game did I play on 2005? OH that's right classic wow! This content been ran hundreds of thousands of times. There's no worlds first when it's been ran that many times for years.



No kidding. Classic went from raiding was hard. No purples for slackers, You have to work now. To it's about the journey not the destination. The real game begins at max level.

you played world of warcraft. not world of warcraft: classic

this was literally the first completion of this raid within this game.

[LionSinMaikeru]

B... but... patch 1.12 exists! These BC/Wrath/Cata/MoP/WoD/Leg/BfA crybabies will never understand the true horrors of Vanilla raiding before the "nerf"!

Uhh, your logic fails when you are ignoring the fact that the people who cleared are hardcore vanilla fanatics who have studied and number crunched how to complete content the fastest.

I highly doubt your standard group of players who say, started in retail would have been able to achieve such a feat.

I used this analogy before, but what you're doing is like me, someone who has never performed surgery, saying that surgery is easy because a trained surgeon can do it. Just because someone can do something doesn't mean *everyone* can.

Just because these people who have studied the game thoroughly and most of them have lots of experience clearing classic content can do BWL in less than an hour, does by no means mean the average player can do so. Nor does it mean the content is trivial or that people who said Classic was more difficult are incorrect.

[Pohut]

Uhh, your logic fails when you are ignoring the fact that the people who cleared are hardcore vanilla fanatics who have studied and number crunched how to complete content the fastest.

I highly doubt your standard group of players who say, started in retail would have been able to achieve such a feat.

I used this analogy before, but what you're doing is like me, someone who has never performed surgery, saying that surgery is easy because a trained surgeon can do it. Just because someone can do something doesn't mean *everyone* can.

Just because these people who have studied the game thoroughly and most of them have lots of experience clearing classic content can do BWL in less than an hour, does by no means mean the average player can do so. Nor does it mean the content is trivial or that people who said Classic was more difficult are incorrect.

Agree. This seems like a ploy by retail players and guild to make Classic seem easier than it is actually is. It is definitely harder than retail.