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  1. #541
    Since this is more of a VE focused concept, this would be a better place for it than the HE megathread.

    Starcursed Hair Effect Concepts




  2. #542
    Careful about suggesting star related aesthetics not aimed at Night Elves, lest Ravenmoon throws a tantrum.
    Last edited by LarryFromHumanResources; 2021-10-07 at 11:54 AM.
    And what if it's not bait? What if it truly is my own unfiltered dogshit opinion, hm? What then?

  3. #543
    They should rename Void Elves to Star Elves, and go all-in on the Starry Void aesthetic, that would be wonderful.

  4. #544
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Since this is more of a VE focused concept, this would be a better place for it than the HE megathread.

    Starcursed Hair Effect Concepts
    I've seen this on Twitter earlier today and must say, I love it. This is exactly what I'd want to see on void elves. Long hair make for some nice contrasts... So, give us proper long hairstyle for males finaly.

    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    They should rename Void Elves to Star Elves, and go all-in on the Starry Void aesthetic, that would be wonderful.
    Well, Star elves would be translated as Kaldorei and we have these elves already, so they had to invent new name for them. I'm not really fond of the name Void elf, since way too literal description, while elves name themselves in a more metaphorical manner.
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  5. #545
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    I've seen this on Twitter earlier today and must say, I love it. This is exactly what I'd want to see on void elves. Long hair make for some nice contrasts... So, give us proper long hairstyle for males finaly.
    Thank you! And yeah, this would be something that would mostly work on longer hairstyles.


    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    They should rename Void Elves to Star Elves, and go all-in on the Starry Void aesthetic, that would be wonderful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    Well, Star elves would be translated as Kaldorei and we have these elves already, so they had to invent new name for them. I'm not really fond of the name Void elf, since way too literal description, while elves name themselves in a more metaphorical manner.
    I like to think Void Elves are more like "Elves from the depth of the cosmos", in the opposite way Kaldorei are Star Elves in the sense of moon and starlight, Void Elves are the space in between.

    Also the idea of the texture itself is basically this Void Flayer, with the edge glow that the VE wings and Armor have.


  6. #546
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Thank you! And yeah, this would be something that would mostly work on longer hairstyles.
    You're welcome! I really think it looks amazing. I noticed it on void elf discord and people there got excited about it. Nightborne mana hands give me hope that something like that could happen for void elves. I mean... we already have sufficient high elf features, giving us void related customizations seem like most propriate thing now.


    I like to think Void Elves are more like "Elves from the depth of the cosmos", in the opposite way Kaldorei are Star Elves in the sense of moon and starlight, Void Elves are the space in between.
    I actually think of them in the same way. The problem is that the Void, as a cosmic force, is traditionaly connected mostly with Old Gods and similar monstrosities, but it's just one facet of the Void, similarly as Naaru are just one facet of the Light. Void elves are not based on Old Gods though. They seem to be leaning more towards Dark Naaru and ethereals (which are central parts of both Alleria storyline and transformation into ren'dorei). We did not explore this side of the Void, which is good, it gives us new potential stories. It also give us space for more elegant concepts, which suits their elf heritage well. For these reasons, I think the name Void elf, while literal, is not that accurate. I would prefer if they got traditional label Dark Elf, or maybe Astral Elf, to avoid connections with Old Gods which they are not build upon.

    Also the idea of the texture itself is basically this Void Flayer, with the edge glow that the VE wings and Armor have.
    oh, so cool. To be honest, I'd even like option for this skin for our tentacles (and the option to chose colors of tentacles in the first place).

  7. #547
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    I actually think of them in the same way. The problem is that the Void, as a cosmic force, is traditionaly connected mostly with Old Gods and similar monstrosities, but it's just one facet of the Void, similarly as Naaru are just one facet of the Light. Void elves are not based on Old Gods though. They seem to be leaning more towards Dark Naaru and ethereals (which are central parts of both Alleria storyline and transformation into ren'dorei). We did not explore this side of the Void, which is good, it gives us new potential stories. It also give us space for more elegant concepts, which suits their elf heritage well. For these reasons, I think the name Void elf, while literal, is not that accurate. I would prefer if they got traditional label Dark Elf, or maybe Astral Elf, to avoid connections with Old Gods which they are not build upon.
    Yeah that's the thing! A lot of people go Void = Old Gods. And while the later are an expression of the Void, there's the whole other fallen naaru, cosmic aspect of it all. Something very interesting is how VE are as much related to Ethereals and Dark Naaru which are by most measure, inorganic, which is a big contrast to Void as in Old Gods, as in, Curse of Flesh.

    So Void Elves kinda straddle that line with their tentacles as well as their obvious Dark Naaru/Starcursed imagery, and I hope they do lean on that for their customizations.

  8. #548
    I'm fine with Velfs stealing the Belf looks, but I just want the skin option to be all void like when your racial procs.

  9. #549
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    They should rename Void Elves to Star Elves, and go all-in on the Starry Void aesthetic, that would be wonderful.
    The Void has always been associated with the aesthetics of stars. After all the Void Lords dwell in the Void, which pretty much looks like deep space.

    Even though the Kaldorei are the "Children of the Stars", the Void and thus the Ren'dorei are also connected to the astral aesthetic.

    Wouldn't you agree @ravenmoon, do you want to share your thoughts on the subjects of Stars, Ren'dorei, Kaldorei, Void, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Since this is more of a VE focused concept, this would be a better place for it than the HE megathread.

    Starcursed Hair Effect Concepts

    [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/MyErhsS.png[/MG]

    [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/8vuZrEV.png[/IG]
    These are beautiful! Amazing work, bud!


    I especially love 9, 10 and 14 in the second set!

  11. #551
    Quote Originally Posted by HateTrain View Post
    I'm fine with Velfs stealing the Belf looks, but I just want the skin option to be all void like when your racial procs.
    Like, the armor? because the skin itself becomes very very blue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalassian Bob View Post
    These are beautiful! Amazing work, bud!


    I especially love 9, 10 and 14 in the second set!
    Thank you! !

  12. #552
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Since this is more of a VE focused concept, this would be a better place for it than the HE megathread.

    Starcursed Hair Effect Concepts
    These are gorgeous! I'd love to see these as options someday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Thank you! !
    I hope you've poked some Blizz artists with this stuff on twitter or something!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Like, the armor? because the skin itself becomes very very blue

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    Thank you! !
    Sorry, I meant the skin, yes. The deep dark voidy blue.

  15. #555
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    The Void has always been associated with the aesthetics of stars. After all the Void Lords dwell in the Void, which pretty much looks like deep space.

    Even though the Kaldorei are the "Children of the Stars", the Void and thus the Ren'dorei are also connected to the astral aesthetic.

    Wouldn't you agree @ravenmoon, do you want to share your thoughts on the subjects of Stars, Ren'dorei, Kaldorei, Void, etc.
    Makes me think of the quote from 2001 Space Odyssey, the book describes the scene in which Bowman is entering the star gate, and he says the following phrase just before losing contact with Mission Control: "The thing's hollow -- it goes on forever -- and -- oh my God! -- it's full of stars!"

    I think that would be a cool way to approach the Void - not as something that is just pitch black and absent of anything, evil for its own sake - it could be representative of the vast infinite foreverness of space, pitch black and empty for the most part, but full of stars!

  16. #556
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    Makes me think of the quote from 2001 Space Odyssey, the book describes the scene in which Bowman is entering the star gate, and he says the following phrase just before losing contact with Mission Control: "The thing's hollow -- it goes on forever -- and -- oh my God! -- it's full of stars!"

    I think that would be a cool way to approach the Void - not as something that is just pitch black and absent of anything, evil for its own sake - it could be representative of the vast infinite foreverness of space, pitch black and empty for the most part, but full of stars!
    If you look on voided land we seen in Mac'Aree, it's mostly deep darkness filled with stars. It looks awesome. Void elf heritage reflect that as well, so I believe that is the theme fitting for Void elves perfectly.

  17. #557
    We already know what the Void looks like, and it looks like this:



    As we know that Telogrus Rift exists tethered to the brink of the Void, meaning that we can see the Void from it:


    Drathir's quest for power led him to seek the fragments of an ancient world, one teetering on the brink of the void itself.

    His notes said it existed within a rift in the very fabric of reality. He never found this place... but I have succeeded where he failed. The way will soon be open to us!

    Drathir believed this site held an ancient object of unspeakable might. Perhaps this will be the key that allows us to gain control over the shadows.
    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Umb...Dawnstar_Spire

    Or anyway we can expect the Void to look similar to that, regardless we know that Telogrus Rift indeed exists at the very edge of the Void and could serve as an entry way into the Void.

    I definitely expect the Void to look like that, but now that I think about it the Void has never been shown in any game or lore source, which is very interesting. We have been to Ny'alotha, but is that a dimension within the Void? Perhaps.

    Also to be fair there is a potion in WoD that sends you into the "realm of the Void", but the "realm of the Void" is basically Shadowmoon Valley with a reused skybox from the Ner'zhul dungeon encounter, so frankly it might simply get the Shadowlands treatment (as we all know Shadowlands originally was just a ghostly version of Azeroth...).

    Totally not expansion material

    Although it might be difficult to truly flesh-out the Void, and it might have the same problem Argus had (there's not a lot of room for variety in races, factions, landscapes, etc. since it's a cursed place ruled by the Void Lords); which is why the Void expansion might also feature the former homeworld of the Ethereal species, which was consumed by the Void.
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  18. #558
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Although it might be difficult to truly flesh-out the Void, and it might have the same problem Argus had (there's not a lot of room for variety in races, factions, landscapes, etc. since it's a cursed place ruled by the Void Lords); which is why the Void expansion might also feature the former homeworld of the Ethereal species, which was consumed by the Void.
    Maybe we could get "BfA" treatment with two separate continents, one for Void realm, other possibly for Light realm. That could give us more creative space and we could finaly explore that unique link Light and Void have.

    I'd also love to explore "evil" part of the Light and "good" part of the Void, as we've been shown Light is not only benevolent as we thought.

  19. #559
    Void elf Connections with High elves and Night elves.


    I really wish blizzard would expand this and develop it meaningful. Void elf development is still pretty shallow. Lacking a zone like Suramar or highmountain where we properly explore them or develop them, yet they have much potential to develop the high elves you can now sorta play as and also give the night elves some close friends THAT AREN'T HUMAN.

    High Elves:

    I'd love to see something like a soulbind connection. TH elore is ripe for it.. a faction of high elves join the ren'dorei in a story that ends up leading tot hem forming a unique bond. Maybe some tried to get rid of htem in the name of the light or understand them, or just help em out by balancing the void.

    With the bonding, void elves are able to tap into much more of the void without sanity issues because of the link and bond to their soul bonded high elf who's light based. The high elf partner finds he gests much stornger in the light because it reacts to the void intensely as if to figh ti t, allowing the high elf to wiled the light more powerfully.

    And so you have high elf and void elves in pairs - wouldn't it be cool if you actually had to design your pair? basically if you're toon is pale skinned, your pair has to be void skinned and vice versa..so you can either be the high elf or the void elf in the relationship. Paladin class opens up.

    This coupled up with some cool void elf customisations like the hair above would be awesome.


    Night elves:

    Void elves really want to understand more the power of the night warrior and use it, so alluring is this that some turn tot he faith of Elune to explore this side a lot more. Besides, Elunism has a lot of arcane in it anyway, so it's right up their street and funny thing is their insight helps Tyrande pas on that power. So they connect to ngiht elves via the priesthood.

    Highborne connection - ofc, the Shen'dralar and their new Darnassian caste have no trouble with the void elves, they get on very well in a friendship that rivals the Nightborne/blood elf one. Shen'dralar also have some lost knowledge of the void too. while their libraries were ravaged and destroyed in the sacking of Dire Maul, these knowledge fanatics would never leave physical copies as the only source of the thing they prize most, knowledge. They use highly advanced magical means to store their vast knowledge libraries within themselves or in crystals. The library books are more like prized collections book fanatics have over first editions - we know the Shen'dralar had a penchant for original material too. Wrathion did not approach any individual in his search for clues to fight N'zoth, knowing anyone could be compromised and no one outside the hero, Magni and M.O.T.H.E.R could be trusted this is why he had to search libraries.

    Long and short is that void elves get on well with Highborne.

    Druids: You'd think this would be a problem.. but guess who the druids went to for help with the nightmare, and guess who actually found new ways of heping? yes.. void elves - in some areas their knoweldge was the key to reversing the void damage in the emerald dream, in other places too far gone, their knoweldge was the key in actually utilising the void to benefit nature or at least to boost power to fight - this also led to void elf druids and a good relationship.

    The excitement ove rne wknoweldge, and the need for harmony again, allowed these elves to bury the hatchet and animosity - afterall, they've fought together for a while now. and cannot afford to be killing one another or waste time in hate.



    New Void elf Customisations



    Void elves could get
    1. void taint skin effects - these have degrees of purple on the skin, so from just hands and and feet, and then growing - obviously it can work on all skin shades, but it's most pronounced on the paler skin shades. Your example would be the second to last highest setting. Highest setting might add a purple fire like glow to the hands.

    2. Tattoos. Your design is quite cool, so blizzard would provide a few variations
    3. Tattoo colour - colours would be 3 shades of purple, 2 x shades of blue, 1 x white/silver, 1 x forest green, 1 x pink, 1 x darker gold (like the race crest)

    4. Void corruptions: like in the picture above. Second pair of eyes, void eye, void spikes, also void tentacles (one option on back, one on arm)
    5. New eye types (placed in the eye colour category) - like in the picture above, 3 types of void eyes, black eye colour and also normal non-glowy eyes
    6. Entropic form customisation: a variety of options for your entropic embrace, including a light version which could alternatively be a glyph for those who role play as high elves.
    7. Some additional fuller beard options.
    8. Void corruptions - like in the picture above
    9. Jewelery options - a jewellery bar - can add a necklace, forehead gem and head band of vearying deisigns (purple and blue gem colour, only gold optoin





    I also feel Night elves should have a star effect version of this, but just a glitter effect.. i.e. like people who have glitter in their hair, rather than the void misasma above. Night elf customisations include.

    Night Elves:
    1. Star tattoos: Tyrande night warrior tattoo, Tyrande avatar of Elune star tattoos. Great for the priest and Highborne fantasy, also works on the druid too
    2. Magical star effects: Similar to Moonkin astral form: boosts both the priest and Highborne arcane night elf fantasy. Showers of stars, arcane star effects,
    3. Selection of additional faces for males similar to what they did for Nightborne, that look young, without growls etc - smooth skinned versions of the existing NElf ones could work.
    4. Neck posture adjustment on NElf males- to look like the classic night elf, this was fixed in the Zandalari troll model, and Nightborne posture changed that for Nightborne.
    5. NElf males have in addition the neat beard option they had removed
    6. Eye colour options: Blue-black colour and Emerald green colour (in addition to the black eyes, the blue shade of black that was removed should also return as an additional option, Emerald green glow like m
    7. Thin manicured eyebrow type option - for highborne and temple priestess/priest fantasy
    8. Hair effects: Change vines to a slider, you can now have vines or stars in your hair, star options can be silver, purple and blue tinged.
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  20. #560
    I am very pleased that the Ren'dorei are now one of the two main races of the Alliance (alongside the LF Draenei). Just as High Exarch Turalyon sits on the throne of Stormwind, Alleria Windrunner co-leads from the War Room next to the throne.

    From exiles in the Ghostlands to leadership of the Alliance, perfect and a natural outcome for a race comprised of the first mortals in the history of the Cosmos to successfully defy the Shadows' whispers.

    I have no doubt that, under the co-leadership of the Ren'dorei and LF Draenei, the Alliance shall prosper and heal from the wounds of war.

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