Jesus, can we stop beating this question over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over?
Yes it is easy, yes ppl that play it enjoy it anyways, if you dont enjoy jit, play retail, GW2, FFXIV, TESO, or whatever floats your boat.
The difficulty from classic comes in different forms but absolutely is not "mechanical" like current wow hardcore raiding.
Leveling is absolutely more challenging than current. Dont even try to deny it.
The mobs hit harder, ninja pulls are death and elite quests require grouping...and sometimes, not even elite quests require grouping.
So we at least have one thing more challenging than current. 100%
Another thing that can be considered difficult is how "time consuming" the game is.
If you have "a life" the game consumes everything out of you.
Unless you are in a good Guild, for example, clearing AQ 40 in one go require hours of your life.
It's really an irrelevant question. 15 years of playing the content and the player mandate not to change hardly anything led to what you have. There were no unknowns; nothing to figure out. The idea that Vanilla was so difficult was oversold in the first place. It wasn't but with a playerbase that was new to the game, sure, people had a learning curve then that they do not now.
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You do realize that any top guild would wipe the floor with mythic raids from legion now? If they are given their exact characters from legion just when the last raid dropped, they would clear it very fast.
Does that mean all mythic raids in legion were a cakewalk?
People forget that all classes are buffed as hell in 1.12 and the gear is vastly changes to make sense. Healing coeff is A LOT better than when bwl dropped. Mana was a true issue at this stage if the game but now we raid with less healers and they still never go out of mana.
We are getting the lfr version of vanilla. Which is fine by me because I, and most others, play for the MMO and RPG part of the genre. It's nice to have a life and raid bwl
I think we will still see guilds struggle a bit in aq40 and Naxx. Not the hardcore guilds ofc. But causal guilds. They will clear it, and faster than most might think. But it'll still take effort.
Just look at the 1.1 warrior talent tree and awe in how in hell they even survived to 60.
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Well, what did you expect? It's content that's been out for 15 years. That's 15 whole years for people who has already beaten it to spread information and teach others how to do it. 15 years for people to read up on the strategies and figure out how to do the fights. That's like saying "inventing the wheel isn't so difficult in 2020" well yea, cause it's already been done.
Classic wow was never hard at all, it just took a lot of time. All 40 people needed the onyxia scale cloak or you literally couldn't move past the 2nd boss in BWL. It was stuff like this and the nostalgia goggles that made people think classic was hard when it really wasn't.
I'm just glad this bullshit meme pushed for years about how Vanilla was a pinnacle of skill and shit died in fire.
The real wakeup call was that everything on classic did 1/2 the damage than of Elysium. I should know.
Even then, private server people wasnt touting how hardcore the game was, sodapoppin with the whole project x stuff, asmongold and esfand were all hyping up how hardcore ""vanilla"" was, but the truth is classic has a ton of similarities in difficulty with retail.
Yes, it is. The game was nice back in the day but it is nothing more than a cute nostalgia trip today.
If you are looking for a challenge you play something else like retial.
Actually it was the other way around. Asmongold said from the start that Classic was going to be a joke. It was the private server community that sold it as difficult and hardcore. I chose (like always) to not listening to anything Asmongold had to say, maybe I should've this time.
I mean, maybe, but in neglecting to point out that people had been practicing on private servers for months leading up to the release of bwl, on top of 15 years of experience and knowledge, to nail those times, is misleading, if not entirely disingenuous, in my opinion.
You dont need a cloak for vael.
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Yes it's far easier because classic is vanilla after the sequence of nerf patches and retunes had been made leading up to the final state.
It wasn't but that doesn't mean a lot of people didn't say it was. Don't you recall the threads upon threads of people who were saying "back in my day we spent 200 days killing that end boss, now you go to lfr and you're done in half an hour".
Wildstar was advertised as going back to the roots of WoW, as being that hardcore game with epic 40-man raids. That's somehow what people remembered, that it was epic and hardcore.
That's actually not true. Legion mythic raid encounters were notorius for wiping the entire raid from a miniscule error and no amount of gear changed that. I think that was the point where the community started to feel like mythic wasn't really worth the effort, which is why it's diminishing.