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    Depends entirely on the guild. If it's just some shitty guild you joined for the hell of it then it doesn't matter. But if it's a guild you invested heavily in, and more importantly, other people came to invest in you too then yes I think just leaving is rude.

    However, we must also remember it's still a game and people have their reasons for just vanishing, whether it's for health or to fight addiction by cutting ties suddenly, or maybe they had too many behind-the-scenes issues with officers and threw in the towel, or any other number of reasons we don't know about.

    Still, I think it's rude. Game or not, we're still real people playing, so it's nice to let people know when or why we're quitting if the guild has invested a lot of time and energy in us, or if people in it like us. Particularly if our absence harms the team re: raids and content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffer View Post
    I get those who are anxious about things like this. Far more often than not, especially online, reactions are very exaggerated and lean heavily on the negative side. Ghosting in general very often happens because people are afraid of the backlash, and that backlash is a very real online phenomenon that has been spilling more and more into real life recently.

    You'd still feel far more at peace if you said your goodbyes though. Even if you didn't care about your guild and were okay with burning bridges, letting them know, at the very least, gives you closure.


    A core mechanic, not the. That's the key thing. I'm similar (I don't actively want to socialize, but I'm not antisocial) and I play the game solely because it's a lazy, relaxing respite from the stress of regular life, especially work. Part of Classic's appeal is that even if you don't socialize, the game is plenty compelling enough to keep you going for a while. The leveling process in particular beats most singleplayer RPGs for me.


    That percentage is going to differ from person to person. For me, it's less than 20%. You mentioned professions, raids and stuff, but frankly, the game is so vast that for someone like me who only plays sporadically, their loss won't be a problem.
    You get those who are "anxious" about this? Excuse me? The guy LITERALLY came to a gaming forum to ask if GHOSTING HIS GUILD is a good or bad thing when he can simply say "Thanks for the fun raids, I'm done with the game, won't be raiding anymore, wish you all the best!", log off, wait for NOONE's response, and be done with it.

    It's people like yourself and like the OP that make this world a weird place to live in. "Fearing backlash" you say? What backlash? The backlash of people on the internet playing a video-game who simply want to know (as stated over 5 pages of this thread) that you're leaving so they know to replace you? That's the backlash? The only backlash you'll get is if they gave you Choker of the Firelord/Mish'Undare or any other full-game duration BiS (Choker/Mish'Undare doesn't get replaced even in Naxx) and you decided to quit the next day. Or if they gave you a raiding recipe, like +55 healing on weapon, and you decided to quit the next day. That's a dick move, cause you robbed that guild of very important items/recipes, but w/e, this is not the case being discussed.

    You don't actively want to socialise in a game that is BUILT ON SOCIALISING? What is wrong with you? xD This isn't about "Playing the game as one sees fit", this is about playing an MMO as a single-player game. You know, EXACTLY what happened and ruined World of Warcraft in the first place. People wanting to do EVERYTHING on their OWN, without wanting to socialise. Right now on Retail you can level from 1-120, get a decent level of gear from Mythic +0, World Quests and LFR, without saying a word to anyone. Go play that mate, Classic ain't for you. I don't want solo-gamers on my server, there are literally THOUSANDS of games out there that are 10x better than WoW in that regard.

    Just an example of what you're missing out on: We have our Mage Class Leader in my guild, called Snik (a living legend), who has an awesome application that records sounds from Discord. After 4 months of raiding the guy has created an amazing library of all the funniest banter you can think of (including our Maintank raging, our Raid Leader barking commands, me calling out someone's name for a combat res in the heat of battle, you name it), as well as classics such as the Titanic song, the X-files theme song, the crickets, everything. His mastery of popping these sound files at exactly the right moments has Discord roaring with laughter. You should honestly try interacting with others mate, you can't understand what you're missing out on.

    Then again, if as you said you played sporadically, you're not exactly raider material. Raiders play on set days (raid days) and on any other days required to get ready for raid days (consumable farming). You wanna be a lone wolf, more power to you, but the Pack will always be stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalinos View Post
    You get those who are "anxious" about this? Excuse me? The guy LITERALLY came to a gaming forum to ask if GHOSTING HIS GUILD is a good or bad thing when he can simply say "Thanks for the fun raids, I'm done with the game, won't be raiding anymore, wish you all the best!", log off, wait for NOONE's response, and be done with it.

    It's people like yourself and like the OP that make this world a weird place to live in. "Fearing backlash" you say? What backlash? The backlash of people on the internet playing a video-game who simply want to know (as stated over 5 pages of this thread) that you're leaving so they know to replace you? That's the backlash? The only backlash you'll get is if they gave you Choker of the Firelord/Mish'Undare or any other full-game duration BiS (Choker/Mish'Undare doesn't get replaced even in Naxx) and you decided to quit the next day. Or if they gave you a raiding recipe, like +55 healing on weapon, and you decided to quit the next day. That's a dick move, cause you robbed that guild of very important items/recipes, but w/e, this is not the case being discussed.

    You don't actively want to socialise in a game that is BUILT ON SOCIALISING? What is wrong with you? xD This isn't about "Playing the game as one sees fit", this is about playing an MMO as a single-player game. You know, EXACTLY what happened and ruined World of Warcraft in the first place. People wanting to do EVERYTHING on their OWN, without wanting to socialise. Right now on Retail you can level from 1-120, get a decent level of gear from Mythic +0, World Quests and LFR, without saying a word to anyone. Go play that mate, Classic ain't for you. I don't want solo-gamers on my server, there are literally THOUSANDS of games out there that are 10x better than WoW in that regard.

    Just an example of what you're missing out on: We have our Mage Class Leader in my guild, called Snik (a living legend), who has an awesome application that records sounds from Discord. After 4 months of raiding the guy has created an amazing library of all the funniest banter you can think of (including our Maintank raging, our Raid Leader barking commands, me calling out someone's name for a combat res in the heat of battle, you name it), as well as classics such as the Titanic song, the X-files theme song, the crickets, everything. His mastery of popping these sound files at exactly the right moments has Discord roaring with laughter. You should honestly try interacting with others mate, you can't understand what you're missing out on.

    Then again, if as you said you played sporadically, you're not exactly raider material. Raiders play on set days (raid days) and on any other days required to get ready for raid days (consumable farming). You wanna be a lone wolf, more power to you, but the Pack will always be stronger.
    The pack may be stronger, but the lone wolf is smarter. People who gravitate towards social activities tend to be less intelligent and highly conformist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladey Gags View Post
    The pack may be stronger, but the lone wolf is smarter. People who gravitate towards social activities tend to be less intelligent and highly conformist
    ...is your response to a guy with a Master's degree, working as an analyst in his field. Gravitating to social activities has nothing to do with intelligence, some of the smartest people I know were always into sports/group activities. Anecdotal evidence sure, but I don't have the time to whip out a statistical model and write an impromptu research paper for you. On the topic of wolves however, I must let you know that Wolves have the ability to create packs and hunt with group strategies BECAUSE of their high intelligence (that applies to all smart animals in nature, except cephalopods)

    Is this what you anti-social or a-social people tell yourselves? That you're smarter than everyone else? I for one highly enjoy coming back to my guild's discord banter after a long day at the office (just as much as my guildies do, actually), and we have people in the guild from all walks of life (from the plumber to the analyst to the high-school teacher to the Ph.D candidate).

    Lastly, source on that claim please, would be quite interesting to read any medical/psychology papers you have handy as sources.
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    Just left a couple of groups I was raiding with. I merely sent a message to the leader of both groups letting them know I wasn't going to be raiding for the near the future. Seems like it was the least I could do. Granted, I liked people in both groups so maybe that affected my decision to let them know I was taking a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalinos View Post
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    I think you missed the part where anxiety has nothing to do with logic. Calling your rant outlandish and well off the mark would be a colossal understatement, but by all means, keep touting your self-professed intelligence and superiority.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dalinos View Post
    ...is your response to a guy with a Master's degree, working as an analyst in his field
    Ah yes, straight from the r/iamverysmart school. You do you, lad.
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  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Twoddle View Post
    Is it bad form to just quit the game and not saying anything to my guild who heavily invest in its members? They have a webpage, discord, raid signups and do split-runs so I have to raid twice/week. I don't wanna deal with explanations I just wanna disappear from the game with no excuses or stress.
    If you're this much of a coward when you're anonymous online, how do you not collapse from stress at the first hint of real world social interaction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffer View Post
    I think you missed the part where anxiety has nothing to do with logic. Calling your rant outlandish and well off the mark would be a colossal understatement, but by all means, keep touting your self-professed intelligence and superiority.


    Ah yes, straight from the r/iamverysmart school. You do you, lad.
    When I get off work today I'll go home, take a picture of it since it's hanging up on my wall, (over my TV and under a friend's painting) and send it to you in a PM, just so you can see you're spouting a load of bullshit =). My "Self-professed intelligence and superiority" has nothing to do with you admitting you're a non-functioning member of society who gets scared of human interaction. Could your snarky response be caused by a hint of jealousy at how much fun I have with my guild? Or how much fun any normal person has with their guilds? Basicly, what the guy above me just said.

    "If you're this much of a coward when you're anonymous online, how do you not collapse from stress at the first hint of real world social interaction?"
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  9. #129
    do it, they wont remember you in two days

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    If you are fine with burning bridges, and don't care about them, you have every right to just vanish.

    however if you care about them, and don't wish to burn bridges, incase you return someday and want to play again, i would tell them "hey i plan to quit, would yall be fine with me leaving now, or do you want me to do like a month of runs till you can find a replacement"
    I agree with your first part and that it's nice to tell them you're leaving... But in no way should someone be expected to stay and play a game longer than they desire to while they find a replacement. They should respect that he/she doesn't want to play anymore and fill the position (and really probably already have "next man up" situation). If it's a job it's a bit different but you are being compensated for that and it's a goodwill thing. This is a game...

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    Its a videogame. Are you not having a good time? then you have reached the end of this flow chart. A guild that forces you to stick around in something you dont enjoy isnt a circle of friends its emotional blackmail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twoddle View Post
    Is it bad form to just quit the game and not saying anything to my guild who heavily invest in its members? They have a webpage, discord, raid signups and do split-runs so I have to raid twice/week. I don't wanna deal with explanations I just wanna disappear from the game with no excuses or stress.
    Yees, it's rude to otherwise not. Just give a generic reason, I'm too busy, I don't have the time, etc. You don't have to go into detail but yeah we have people do this shit all the time. People we hold raid spots for, people we prioritize loot to, the least they could do is have the common courtesy of saying hey, thanks for everything but, I won't be back for a while if ever.

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    I'd say it depends. Are there people in your guild that you're friends with irl/friendly enough with in WoW? Then just dropping a message saying you're not going to be playing anymore for the foreseeable future and a quick explanation won't hurt before leaving. Do they just treat you as a tool to fill raid slots and complete runs with very little interest in you otherwise? Then it should be fine to just leave the game.
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    Just say you're going out to get some smokes.

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    I did this just recently because my guild became a rat infested shithole. Dropped a fuck this in the disc, left the server, left the guild. Best decision I've made recently. Game is so much more enjoyable.

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