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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by seventysix View Post
    I'll probably get super backlash for this opinion. But it's only recently that things like this are considered a mental illness...because people dealt with it. There are actual mental illnesses and then there's anxiety...to quote the late great Kyle Brovolski, "everyone has anxiety."
    Sure, everyone has regular anxiety unless they have some other kind of idgaf mental disorder but that still isn't an anxiety disorder http://www.ulifeline.org/articles/43...iety-disorders
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  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Only hope you never ever exchanged real ID
    Bro, since blizz added the appear offline feature I've been offline ever since lol
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    I wrote a big ass love letter on guild forum, when i was chosen to get Shadowmourne.
    Never ever got into another guild, love those guys till this day

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  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by seventysix View Post
    I'll probably get super backlash for this opinion. But it's only recently that things like this are considered a mental illness...because people dealt with it. There are actual mental illnesses and then there's anxiety...to quote the late great Kyle Brovolski, "everyone has anxiety."
    is it really so strange that it's only recently?

    people used to die before they god old age diseases, but as the world changed people start to get older and now those are some of the most prevalent diseases.
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    you can debate whether anxiety is a full on disorder or not, but i can perfectly imagine that anxiety itself is a lot more common in todays world of mass media, social media and connectivity, than in the world of my parents just a few decades ago where you only knew people from a few villages, only watched tv on sunday and there wasone telephone per street.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    If you are fine with burning bridges, and don't care about them, you have every right to just vanish.

    however if you care about them, and don't wish to burn bridges, incase you return someday and want to play again, i would tell them "hey i plan to quit, would yall be fine with me leaving now, or do you want me to do like a month of runs till you can find a replacement"
    You do not owe anyone a month of anything, what he said was fine until the last part. Just tell them hey I am not getting enjoyment out of classic like I used to so I am going to stop playing for now go ahead and replace my spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampyrr View Post
    You do not owe anyone a month of anything, what he said was fine until the last part. Just tell them hey I am not getting enjoyment out of classic like I used to so I am going to stop playing for now go ahead and replace my spot.
    Like real life with a job, its good to put in "my 2 weeks" yes you have every right to just quit and leave, but it leaves good feelings if you give them time to atleast try to find a replacement, or adjust what needs to be done with you gone, instead of just "alright, we gotta sort everything out by tomorrow."
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    tbh it is kinda mindblowing that people actually have to open threads for questions like this. the answer should be pretty obvious for any decent human being.

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Twoddle View Post
    Thanks all, I'll mention something to them in the next main raid. It's not like they're short of replacements anyway but I have been 100% reliable.
    This has happened to us a couple times, and it's absolutely understandable. This is a game, but it's one that requires lots of time commitment. If you can't stick, that's totally fine, but guilds really like to know. It doesn't have to be personal, and bridges don't need to get burned, but people burn out. From a raid team perspective, we like our individual members, but if one person needs to leave we need to know to replace them. That's it, and it's fine. Also, depending on the guild, social ranks could still exist - if you like the people, maybe just take a step back from the push, but stick around.

    I love Classic, and have wanted it for years - but even I'm starting to feel burned out. It helps that I'm ultra casual, log for raids and a bit here and there, so when I am in game it's still fun, but I'm still at a later stage in life and have other interests now. While I want to clear Naxx, and continue through BC and Wrath (presumably), I am looking for a more casual, laid back experience. Right now, my guild is just this, but things change. Letting people know is not just polite, but it's something that you should always do. Don't worry about pushback.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Like real life with a job, its good to put in "my 2 weeks" yes you have every right to just quit and leave, but it leaves good feelings if you give them time to atleast try to find a replacement, or adjust what needs to be done with you gone, instead of just "alright, we gotta sort everything out by tomorrow."
    Should do that when debating stay or go. Once the call is to go, let people know but then you are free to dip or go casual or whatever.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Twoddle View Post
    Is it bad form to just quit the game and not saying anything to my guild who heavily invest in its members? They have a webpage, discord, raid signups and do split-runs so I have to raid twice/week. I don't wanna deal with explanations I just wanna disappear from the game with no excuses or stress.
    I mean you actually have to ask that? Of course it is. You're free to quit/leave any time you want, but doing so without saying anything is just a douche move. You've spent so much time playing with these people, a lot of them are (or at least should be) more or less friends, or something friend-like, to you. If you quit a soccer team, would you also just fade and not say anything to anyone?

  11. #111
    Well by the rule of thumb; If you have to ask the question, then it probably is.

    And by the basic human standards; Yes, just disappearing on people, who might be counting on you, is a dick move.

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    Do it, honestly it’s a game and not a job so what ever.

  13. #113
    This thread is eye opening in how many cowards there are in WoW.

    Quit like a man and say something. Ghosting your guild is just bad karma and will and should, come back to bite you in the ass

  14. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Zmagoslav View Post
    Well by the rule of thumb; If you have to ask the question, then it probably is.

    And by the basic human standards; Yes, just disappearing on people, who might be counting on you, is a dick move.
    Well put, I'm quite astonished at how many people here are saying it's "OK" to just vanish. When did basic decency become so rare? Is this some millennial thing?

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    I get those who are anxious about things like this. Far more often than not, especially online, reactions are very exaggerated and lean heavily on the negative side. Ghosting in general very often happens because people are afraid of the backlash, and that backlash is a very real online phenomenon that has been spilling more and more into real life recently.

    You'd still feel far more at peace if you said your goodbyes though. Even if you didn't care about your guild and were okay with burning bridges, letting them know, at the very least, gives you closure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dalinos View Post
    If you're a "very asocial person", may I ask why you would play a game where teaming up with others and creating social bonds is a core mechanic of the game?
    A core mechanic, not the. That's the key thing. I'm similar (I don't actively want to socialize, but I'm not antisocial) and I play the game solely because it's a lazy, relaxing respite from the stress of regular life, especially work. Part of Classic's appeal is that even if you don't socialize, the game is plenty compelling enough to keep you going for a while. The leveling process in particular beats most singleplayer RPGs for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dalinos View Post
    Sure, you can play Classic solo. But you're missing out on 90% of the fun.
    That percentage is going to differ from person to person. For me, it's less than 20%. You mentioned professions, raids and stuff, but frankly, the game is so vast that for someone like me who only plays sporadically, their loss won't be a problem.
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    Depends entirely on the guild. If it's just some shitty guild you joined for the hell of it then it doesn't matter. But if it's a guild you invested heavily in, and more importantly, other people came to invest in you too then yes I think just leaving is rude.

    However, we must also remember it's still a game and people have their reasons for just vanishing, whether it's for health or to fight addiction by cutting ties suddenly, or maybe they had too many behind-the-scenes issues with officers and threw in the towel, or any other number of reasons we don't know about.

    Still, I think it's rude. Game or not, we're still real people playing, so it's nice to let people know when or why we're quitting if the guild has invested a lot of time and energy in us, or if people in it like us. Particularly if our absence harms the team re: raids and content.

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Coffer View Post
    I get those who are anxious about things like this. Far more often than not, especially online, reactions are very exaggerated and lean heavily on the negative side. Ghosting in general very often happens because people are afraid of the backlash, and that backlash is a very real online phenomenon that has been spilling more and more into real life recently.

    You'd still feel far more at peace if you said your goodbyes though. Even if you didn't care about your guild and were okay with burning bridges, letting them know, at the very least, gives you closure.


    A core mechanic, not the. That's the key thing. I'm similar (I don't actively want to socialize, but I'm not antisocial) and I play the game solely because it's a lazy, relaxing respite from the stress of regular life, especially work. Part of Classic's appeal is that even if you don't socialize, the game is plenty compelling enough to keep you going for a while. The leveling process in particular beats most singleplayer RPGs for me.


    That percentage is going to differ from person to person. For me, it's less than 20%. You mentioned professions, raids and stuff, but frankly, the game is so vast that for someone like me who only plays sporadically, their loss won't be a problem.
    You get those who are "anxious" about this? Excuse me? The guy LITERALLY came to a gaming forum to ask if GHOSTING HIS GUILD is a good or bad thing when he can simply say "Thanks for the fun raids, I'm done with the game, won't be raiding anymore, wish you all the best!", log off, wait for NOONE's response, and be done with it.

    It's people like yourself and like the OP that make this world a weird place to live in. "Fearing backlash" you say? What backlash? The backlash of people on the internet playing a video-game who simply want to know (as stated over 5 pages of this thread) that you're leaving so they know to replace you? That's the backlash? The only backlash you'll get is if they gave you Choker of the Firelord/Mish'Undare or any other full-game duration BiS (Choker/Mish'Undare doesn't get replaced even in Naxx) and you decided to quit the next day. Or if they gave you a raiding recipe, like +55 healing on weapon, and you decided to quit the next day. That's a dick move, cause you robbed that guild of very important items/recipes, but w/e, this is not the case being discussed.

    You don't actively want to socialise in a game that is BUILT ON SOCIALISING? What is wrong with you? xD This isn't about "Playing the game as one sees fit", this is about playing an MMO as a single-player game. You know, EXACTLY what happened and ruined World of Warcraft in the first place. People wanting to do EVERYTHING on their OWN, without wanting to socialise. Right now on Retail you can level from 1-120, get a decent level of gear from Mythic +0, World Quests and LFR, without saying a word to anyone. Go play that mate, Classic ain't for you. I don't want solo-gamers on my server, there are literally THOUSANDS of games out there that are 10x better than WoW in that regard.

    Just an example of what you're missing out on: We have our Mage Class Leader in my guild, called Snik (a living legend), who has an awesome application that records sounds from Discord. After 4 months of raiding the guy has created an amazing library of all the funniest banter you can think of (including our Maintank raging, our Raid Leader barking commands, me calling out someone's name for a combat res in the heat of battle, you name it), as well as classics such as the Titanic song, the X-files theme song, the crickets, everything. His mastery of popping these sound files at exactly the right moments has Discord roaring with laughter. You should honestly try interacting with others mate, you can't understand what you're missing out on.

    Then again, if as you said you played sporadically, you're not exactly raider material. Raiders play on set days (raid days) and on any other days required to get ready for raid days (consumable farming). You wanna be a lone wolf, more power to you, but the Pack will always be stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalinos View Post
    You get those who are "anxious" about this? Excuse me? The guy LITERALLY came to a gaming forum to ask if GHOSTING HIS GUILD is a good or bad thing when he can simply say "Thanks for the fun raids, I'm done with the game, won't be raiding anymore, wish you all the best!", log off, wait for NOONE's response, and be done with it.

    It's people like yourself and like the OP that make this world a weird place to live in. "Fearing backlash" you say? What backlash? The backlash of people on the internet playing a video-game who simply want to know (as stated over 5 pages of this thread) that you're leaving so they know to replace you? That's the backlash? The only backlash you'll get is if they gave you Choker of the Firelord/Mish'Undare or any other full-game duration BiS (Choker/Mish'Undare doesn't get replaced even in Naxx) and you decided to quit the next day. Or if they gave you a raiding recipe, like +55 healing on weapon, and you decided to quit the next day. That's a dick move, cause you robbed that guild of very important items/recipes, but w/e, this is not the case being discussed.

    You don't actively want to socialise in a game that is BUILT ON SOCIALISING? What is wrong with you? xD This isn't about "Playing the game as one sees fit", this is about playing an MMO as a single-player game. You know, EXACTLY what happened and ruined World of Warcraft in the first place. People wanting to do EVERYTHING on their OWN, without wanting to socialise. Right now on Retail you can level from 1-120, get a decent level of gear from Mythic +0, World Quests and LFR, without saying a word to anyone. Go play that mate, Classic ain't for you. I don't want solo-gamers on my server, there are literally THOUSANDS of games out there that are 10x better than WoW in that regard.

    Just an example of what you're missing out on: We have our Mage Class Leader in my guild, called Snik (a living legend), who has an awesome application that records sounds from Discord. After 4 months of raiding the guy has created an amazing library of all the funniest banter you can think of (including our Maintank raging, our Raid Leader barking commands, me calling out someone's name for a combat res in the heat of battle, you name it), as well as classics such as the Titanic song, the X-files theme song, the crickets, everything. His mastery of popping these sound files at exactly the right moments has Discord roaring with laughter. You should honestly try interacting with others mate, you can't understand what you're missing out on.

    Then again, if as you said you played sporadically, you're not exactly raider material. Raiders play on set days (raid days) and on any other days required to get ready for raid days (consumable farming). You wanna be a lone wolf, more power to you, but the Pack will always be stronger.
    The pack may be stronger, but the lone wolf is smarter. People who gravitate towards social activities tend to be less intelligent and highly conformist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladey Gags View Post
    The pack may be stronger, but the lone wolf is smarter. People who gravitate towards social activities tend to be less intelligent and highly conformist
    ...is your response to a guy with a Master's degree, working as an analyst in his field. Gravitating to social activities has nothing to do with intelligence, some of the smartest people I know were always into sports/group activities. Anecdotal evidence sure, but I don't have the time to whip out a statistical model and write an impromptu research paper for you. On the topic of wolves however, I must let you know that Wolves have the ability to create packs and hunt with group strategies BECAUSE of their high intelligence (that applies to all smart animals in nature, except cephalopods)

    Is this what you anti-social or a-social people tell yourselves? That you're smarter than everyone else? I for one highly enjoy coming back to my guild's discord banter after a long day at the office (just as much as my guildies do, actually), and we have people in the guild from all walks of life (from the plumber to the analyst to the high-school teacher to the Ph.D candidate).

    Lastly, source on that claim please, would be quite interesting to read any medical/psychology papers you have handy as sources.
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    Just left a couple of groups I was raiding with. I merely sent a message to the leader of both groups letting them know I wasn't going to be raiding for the near the future. Seems like it was the least I could do. Granted, I liked people in both groups so maybe that affected my decision to let them know I was taking a break.

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