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    Governments around the world are freaking out because their birth rates are so low that there isn't enough young people to pay for the social security and pensions. Overpopulation is only a problem in 3rd world countries. Otherwise we need people to have more babies not less.

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    We're underpopulated ... just because you ran out of milk in the fridge doesn't mean there a shortage of milk nor does it mean you have too many kids (please don't shoot one of your kids if you're short on milk). All it means you're miss managing the resources.

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    Stop giving old people medicine.

    Once you hit 70 you're on your own. The fuck is a generation supporting a bunch of vegetables.
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    I'm 100% in favor of this and would take it one step further and have forced sterilization on people upon puberty unless/until they can prove they can support their ONE child on their own without the aid of the government or anyone outside of the two parents (or one parent if a woman so elects to be a single mom).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaymer77 View Post
    I'm 100% in favor of this and would take it one step further and have forced sterilization on people upon puberty unless/until they can prove they can support their ONE child on their own without the aid of the government or anyone outside of the two parents (or one parent if a woman so elects to be a single mom).
    So, basically forced sterilization of the poor.

    I didn't even think we needed this reminder but apparently we do, so: eugenics are a bad thing based on shitty pseudoscience, people.
    Elizabeth Warren is the neighbor in the horror movie who drives by the haunted house and is like “hey guys seems bad in there want to come with me?” and America is the family that’s like “nah it’s probably not that bad there were only chainsaw noises in the night that one time!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    So, basically forced sterilization of the poor.

    I didn't even think we needed this reminder but apparently we do, so: eugenics are a bad thing based on shitty pseudoscience, people.
    Yeah but... poor people are just... the worst.

    Like, oh mai gawd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaymer77 View Post
    I'm 100% in favor of this and would take it one step further and have forced sterilization on people upon puberty unless/until they can prove they can support their ONE child on their own without the aid of the government or anyone outside of the two parents (or one parent if a woman so elects to be a single mom).
    The fact that specific minority of people cannot reproduce doesn't mean anyone else shouldn't, this projection is not necessary

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    Good idea, but we as humans could never get a global policy going so don’t see it happening.
    WW3 or a global sickness that will kill most population will be a more logical breaking point in the future.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Thereturn View Post
    With overpopulation and everything that comes with it, one of the solutions that comes to mind is a 1 child policy, globally, for the next somewhat years. Would you be in favour of this or not? Why?

    Personally id say this is a pretty big infringement on our autonomy, on the other hand, its needed. So if not for life, id say its cool.
    This should have been made international law years ago...it's too late now

  10. #50
    Terribad idea? And both stupid and inapplicable at that, unless you're into inhumane stuff such as forced abortions/sterilization, infanticides/murder of babies and undocumented children.

    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    You mean out of dense urban areas into rural areas or what? The stats seem to indicate that countries level off at around 85% urbanization but there will always need to be some minimum amount of rural population in order to service all the rural industries.

    IMO, people should just go wherever they want. (As long as it's legal)
    The current trend it towards more urbanization and centralization anyway : in several developed countries there is an ongoing marked decline of the suburban model and countryside, particularly in those with declining populations (eg : Japan), not only is the countryside being sucked dry of youth, but peripheral towns and cities are also declining in favor of The Big City, unless they can be made into viable, attractive "suburbs" with massive infrastructure projects like high speed rail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    The best way to deal with overpopulation is by education and providing birth control. I cant believe that people in poorer countries that can barely afford food for themselves have 9 kids on purpose. If there was a limit then what would you do if there WAS another kid? Force the mother to kill their child? Put the father on jail?
    The thing is, in the classical scheme of things in agrarian societies, numerous children are not a burden but a ressource : non mechanized farming is very labor intensive, and there is no cheaper labor than your own children. Plus you would need as many as possible to care for you in old age.
    "Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outwards, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendent, and to embrace them is to achieve enlightenment."

    ~ Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang on Essays on Mind and Matter

  11. #51
    The global population increase will level out in time. What we really need to do is start coming up with economic system that doesn't require constant endless growth to be viable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaymer77 View Post
    I'm 100% in favor of this and would take it one step further and have forced sterilization on people upon puberty unless/until they can prove they can support their ONE child on their own without the aid of the government or anyone outside of the two parents (or one parent if a woman so elects to be a single mom).
    You are either a Russian troll account or a truly despicable human.

    There is only one proper answer, and it is to empower women who live in the third world, religious nations and places like Russia where they are beaten and treated worse than a dog.

    They should receive a proper education, knowledge and rights to birth control. Anyone trying to control women through religion or "culture" should be removed.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    "Overpopulation isn't a thing!"

    Meanwhile countless species of animals and plants going extinct to make room, agriculture and housing, for the plague that is humanity to spread its reach.
    Lead by example if you think humanity is a plague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Stop giving old people medicine.

    Once you hit 70 you're on your own. The fuck is a generation supporting a bunch of vegetables.
    Unironically this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Lead by example if you think humanity is a plague.
    Isn't there some place in the middle where you can meet and agree that animals are suffering and going extinct because of us?
    You dont have to hate humanity to admit we are flawed and are causing harm to other species.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurgjelme View Post
    Isn't there some place in the middle where you can meet and agree that animals are suffering and going extinct because of us?
    You dont have to hate humanity to admit we are flawed and are causing harm to other species.
    Sure. But any other species on Earth would do exactly the same thing to other species if they could. Pretending that humanity is somehow different or especially immoral or bad is foolish.

    We should strive to protect biological diversity in our environment because it benefits us in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Sure. But any other species on Earth would do exactly the same thing to other species if they could. Pretending that humanity is somehow different or especially immoral or bad is foolish.

    We should strive to protect biological diversity in our environment because it benefits us in the long run.
    I agree, and we should strive to be better than we are , especially how we have treated our planet.

  17. #57
    People don't see to take overpopulation very seriously and it's worrying. Even the climate fighters think that overpopulation isn't a big deal. All you need to do is perform a simple thought experiment in order to understand the gravity of it all...

    1 Baby... how many tons of carbon will this human produce over the course of his life? How many chemicals will be poured down the drain by him? How much money will he leech off the system, because his college education is worthless?

    It all adds up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post
    Here's a hint: farms used to be forests too.
    yes but not all forest is on flat land.

    And also, hydroponics exists and requires no soil at all
    soil isn't the problem, labor is.

    you can get incredible yields for mixed crop fields, but that kind of field ins't very suited for large farming machines. same for non flat land. giant machines often also destroy the plant, and pick all product, instead of only the ones at optimal ripeness. etc. paying a lot of people to do the work manually isn't economically viable for most products.

    but developments in automation/AI could solve this in a few decades and then you could start seeing some interesting things happen.

    and after that: the ultimate dream for farming is for electricity to become cheap enough to grow food with artificial light on large scales, then everybody can literally have a automated farm in their basement that provides enough fresh food for their household every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaymer77 View Post
    I'm 100% in favor of this and would take it one step further and have forced sterilization on people upon puberty unless/until they can prove they can support their ONE child on their own without the aid of the government or anyone outside of the two parents (or one parent if a woman so elects to be a single mom).
    So as a liberal you're ok with eugenics and forced sterilization of the poor.
    There is blood on the path I walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Lead by example if you think humanity is a plague.
    We are. I don't plan on having any kids.

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