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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    they did that for mop where you got beta if you did a 6 month thing, and i think they said they wouldnt do it again because most people were just playing it as like an early release and not giving feedback or testing
    well. Thats kinda bs from their part, sicne they still give it to every big ass streamer as promo's. Majority of them aren't giving feedback either

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Perkunas View Post
    Ranged Survival please...
    Don't understand the hate for survival. I think it's far far better than BM or mm. If you want ranged hunter you have 2 specs, leave survival melee.
    Last edited by Elderwolf; 2020-02-21 at 10:30 PM.

  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elderwolf View Post
    Don't understand the hate for survival. I think it's far far better than BM or mm. If you want ranged hunter you have 2 specs, leave survival melee.
    Ranged Survival was the most entertaining spec. Chaining explosive shots with Black Arrow procs, the sheer number of escapes, Wyvern sting combos with powershot and explosive traps. In PVP the spec was just ridiculous. It made absolutely no sense to make Survival the melee build. You're in there fighting with your pet like Rexxar who was a Beastmaster. I'm not saying the spec is bad now, only that they picked the wrong one to change. Further though, there were MORE than enough melee specs. There are too many at this point.
    Last edited by Perkunas; 2020-02-22 at 01:33 AM.
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  4. #144
    whatever 10char

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Kayze View Post
    It's alpha!? Ugh. They should be at beta by now.
    You have no idea, do you. It's probably coming out around September again, so ~2 months of Alpha, ~3-4 months of beta.

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    You have no idea, do you. It's probably coming out around September again, so ~2 months of Alpha, ~3-4 months of beta.
    Actually, if YOU had any idea on this you'd know that BFA was announced in Nov 2017, went into alpha testing early Feb 2018, beta early late April, and was released in August. HOWEVER, with BFA's less effort patches after 8.2, they should have been on this faster than BFA. As for why I'm pushing for an even faster/better release is because:

    - BFA's last two patches have been light on actual content.
    - They've massively grown their team every year since MoP.
    - They're a multi-billion dollar company, they can do this MUCH better.
    - We pay a monthly subscription and WoW is their main cash cow, THEY SHOULD BE DOING MORE FOR IT. Patches with 2 weeks of content and then months before more content isn't acceptable. They have the resources.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Let's be honest, here: what do honestly think they could've done? Scrapped the whole thing, the main expansion's feature for character growth, and started over, from scrap? Do you honestly think the player base would be happy with the content drought for Argus lasting for twice as long, at least, as Blizzard goes back to the drawing board to come up with a new main feature for BfA? Or BfA going without Azerite gear and without tier sets?
    Be honest? They literally fixed major azerite issues and released heroic Warfronts (which should have been normal mode) in patch 8.2... What they SHOULD have done is listened to feedback and made those 8.2 fixes BEFORE release or by 8.1 at most. Instead they stubbornly DEFENDED the systems as they were until it could be proven in data because BFA's development choices were literally data driven. Just FYI, 8.2 came nearly a year after release which YES is far too late in an expansion for core features.

    Perhaps understand this better before trying to call out people ROFL.
    Last edited by Kayze; 2020-02-25 at 01:57 AM.

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Elderwolf View Post
    Don't understand the hate for survival. I think it's far far better than BM or mm. If you want ranged hunter you have 2 specs, leave survival melee.
    Why not both? Give us 4 specs. Melee survival is fun, but it wasn't worth losing Ranged Survival

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Kayze View Post
    Be honest? They literally fixed major azerite issues and released heroic Warfronts (which should have been normal mode) in patch 8.2... What they SHOULD have done is listened to feedback and made those 8.2 fixes BEFORE release or by 8.1 at most. Instead they stubbornly DEFENDED the systems as they were until it could be proven in data because BFA's development choices were literally data driven. Just FYI, 8.2 came nearly a year after release which YES is far too late in an expansion for core features.

    Perhaps understand this better before trying to call out people ROFL.
    You're assuming those were already ready to go to be released at launch. Do you know if they were? Would you be ok if the expansion was delayed for another half a year longer (or more) just so those systems could be finished for release instead of going live two content patches later?
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  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Kayze View Post
    Actually, if YOU had any idea on this you'd know that BFA was announced in Nov 2017, went into alpha testing early Feb 2018, beta early late April, and was released in August. HOWEVER, with BFA's less effort patches after 8.2, they should have been on this faster than BFA. As for why I'm pushing for an even faster/better release is because:

    - BFA's last two patches have been light on actual content.
    - They've massively grown their team every year since MoP.
    - They're a multi-billion dollar company, they can do this MUCH better.
    - We pay a monthly subscription and WoW is their main cash cow, THEY SHOULD BE DOING MORE FOR IT. Patches with 2 weeks of content and then months before more content isn't acceptable. They have the resources.



    Be honest? They literally fixed major azerite issues and released heroic Warfronts (which should have been normal mode) in patch 8.2... What they SHOULD have done is listened to feedback and made those 8.2 fixes BEFORE release or by 8.1 at most. Instead they stubbornly DEFENDED the systems as they were until it could be proven in data because BFA's development choices were literally data driven. Just FYI, 8.2 came nearly a year after release which YES is far too late in an expansion for core features.

    Perhaps understand this better before trying to call out people ROFL.
    So, yeah.. basically the same kind of timeline I was saying then.

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