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  1. #21
    Because every mmo the size of Warcraft requires two teams. One team to take care of the current expansion, addressing issues, making new content, balancing etc, and another team developing the next expansion. After Activision sent most of Blizzard staff to the smartphone division they barely have enough people for a single team. And the ones left are apparently not the best. It's obvious they will never make WoW the great mmo it used to be. They will just milk the last drop of nostalgia and hope from dedicated fans, and then turn it free to play with little to zero new content. It's over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    What do you mean abandon? We just had a new patch release and the new content is still fresh. Just because things that you'd like to be added haven't been added doesn't mean that the game was abandoned.
    But...but...there is no content / content is shit (pick your poison) and what tolerable content there was ppl played through on day 1. Raids are no contnet when somebody else cleared them etc etc etc (this is all sarcasm by the way)

    Yeah....8.3 lasted something like 7 months and I got most stuff done in 4 month. Still not exactly bored finishing up other stuff and tackling alt levelling. While I say outside raid content is less than 8.3....I'd say 8.3 should count as stuff to keep you entertained until April.

    So...sure..ppl can complain that the game gets "abandoned" for that time. I think from a dev or business point it is rather pointless to add all kinds of new gear or activity when the next x-pac is around the corner (and only because us MMO Champs clear stuff quickly, doesn't mean the other players out there do)

    So they take this approach (an approach we have seen since TBC really....BT lasted 9 months) and customers can totally decide to stay or quit.

    Or make baity topics

    Or bite on those baity topics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echocho View Post
    Looking at his post history he does seem to be very unhappy. I can't imagine keeping to play a game you dislike that much. It's like staying in an abusive relationship.
    ...and we all know there are sooooo many ppl out there who need just that to keep their lives miserable...just as they like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by otaXephon View Post
    Let's go ahead and say that Blizzard says, hey, fuck it. And goes hard on BfA. They make the game PERFECT. EXACTLY the way you want it. You have ZERO complaints.

    Then SL comes out as a half-completed fucking abortion of an expansion, barely tested, barely QA'd and a complete and total fucking train wreck.

    24 hours later, you create the following thread:

    "Why do they abandon new expansions right before they're released?"

    An angel weeps.
    PPL will tell you that the reality is that they take their time and make one shit expansion after the other.

    PPL will tell you that they care so deeply and they have a right to question and criticize...and that us who point out their weird behaviour are just white knight who suck Blizzard's cock. Fair enough....but those guys also suck that cock as long as you pay. You just think you are better because you constantly gag and complain.

    (I always hear Blizzard chuckling in the back)

    But really I still think there is no point (especially commercially) adding new content (hell...as if OP even puts in the effort to explain what content he expects). Blunt, brute accountants rationale. It makes no financial sense for them. Even if a handful of angry users temporarily unsub over it. (they are probably angry mainly because they just paid a 6 month sub to get this mount...which is ofc also Blizzard's fault for tricking them)
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Derpleton View Post
    Blizzard is a small indie company that simply doesn't have the resources to support developing a new expansion and the live game.
    It's sad that this is the honest opinion of most people who frequent these forums.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by ano2024 View Post
    But how do they get away with basically abandoning SUBSCRIPTION-based game for many months before releasing an expansion? So the deal is, you keep paying us money and we'll just do nothing for the product that you're CURRENTLY paying for. If you'r charging for the expansion cost and a subscription, then you should deliver appropriate content and fixes for it for the full duration of the expansion.
    You pay to access the game servers as is. As is. Blizzard is under no obligation to EVER add new content, fix bugs, or do anything.

    As for your final paragraph, not doing what YOU want them to do does NOT mean they don't care about their players. Stop being so self centered.
    "Remember, never look over the long term story and try to piece together what Blizzard planned, only take singular moments out of context and blow them way out of proportion. We can argue better that way. Every time I try to look at the story as Blizzard are presenting it I'm either called a shill or a fanfiction writer." Powerogue 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by ano2024 View Post
    There are many things wrong with BfA, so they can't possibly fix them all. I understand that. And they should dedicate a lot of their resources to Shadowlands.

    But how do they get away with basically abandoning SUBSCRIPTION-based game for many months before releasing an expansion? So the deal is, you keep paying us money and we'll just do nothing for the product that you're CURRENTLY paying for. If you'r charging for the expansion cost and a subscription, then you should deliver appropriate content and fixes for it for the full duration of the expansion.

    There are many things they could do that wouldn't even take that much effort. Make essences account-wide, make corruption offer more options from your weekly mythic+ chest so you can choose the best option. Blizzard themselves said they're doing this in Shadowlands. But they decided that no, we're going to leave it as it is in BfA, cause the quality of life for people playing now doesn't matter (but please don't unsubscribe though).
    Since 05.01.2020 you post nothing but whine threats. Just QUIT the game... heavens....

  6. #26
    It cost money and is it worth to do so? Maybe they already know people need a break of WoW to hype more for the next expansion? They for sure have reasons beside the big point that it would cost more money.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by vsb View Post
    Please no. They must make characters completely separate any remove all "account-wide" features, rather than introducing new ones. Alts should not be a thing, people should play one character. Corruption options would make it boring, you just choose best one and everyone's the same. Now it's much more exciting. I got stars 3 weapon and it was awesome!

    They are doing fine. Don't complain, please.
    Go and play Classic, please. There you can have all this, except the corruption which is a system that will be abandoned in SL anyway...

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsorrow View Post
    Go and play Classic, please. There you can have all this, except the corruption which is a system that will be abandoned in SL anyway...
    I already finished Classic, thanks for suggestion though, it was awesome game.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by ano2024 View Post
    But how do they get away with basically abandoning SUBSCRIPTION-based game for many months before releasing an expansion?
    What if I told you that you don't have to be subbed for all the months before the next expansion.

    Done with the content of latest patch and don't have any other goals you want to achieve before the next expansion? Unsub and come back in the pre-patch!
    Unless you got conned into the 6 months thing. Then, well, maybe next time think twice lol.

  10. #30
    Surly at this point the mods have to understand this person is trolling. Day after day countless threads about the same disdain he/she feels for the game.

    Also, said person hardly ever replies to their own threads. They aren't looking to debate anything, just to rile people up and get others arguing.

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    While the OP does come around as a little too whiny, and it's easy to go with "just unsub lolz", there is valid point. Imo, the available content isn't exactly stellar (except the raid, with its old AQ vibe), and there is not really a lot of it if you take the mindless, repetitive chores (emissaries/islands/assaults) out of the picture. It's amazing how nothing has changed in this regard since !@#$ing WotLK, despite them now gloating about tEh BiGgeSt TeaM eVaH.

    In this "seasonal" mode adopted by the Devs since WotLK, which gained full steam since Legion, there is a LOT of content in the current xpac which is simply dead. Who bothers with Uldir or BoD anymore, for example? These old (from current xpac, that is) raids are as good as dead atm. There should be some reason to revisit them - Legion managed to find it, obnoxious as it may have been. That doesn't mean that a seasoned dev couldn't come with better reasons or ways to revitalise old content, without turning it into yet another boring grind.
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    You know what you're paying for. It's the same way it's been since the game launched. It comes to no surprise to anyone how there are big gaps between patches and expansions. You know what's coming next and can choose to keep paying or not. Just because you're paying doesn't give you some sort of privilege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ano2024 View Post
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    You seem to believe that your subscription entitles you to a continuous stream of content you approve... it doesn't. It doesn't entitle you to ANY content.
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    so people have enough time to fully finish the expansion. I know there are lots of things that I want to achieve before the expansion is done and not all of them can be done in a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vsb View Post
    I already finished Classic, thanks for suggestion though, it was awesome game.
    Great for you! However there are people that like to play alts and appreciate account wide stuff. And there is a reason why they don't play Classic. Don't get me wrong, I don't want everything to be account wide and I think that alts should be lower than mains, but the current situation is just alt-unfriendly imho. Blizz already did better on that subject in the past.

    But OT: I generally like the "content draught" at the end of an expansion, you can shift down a gear or two, finish some achievments play around with alts or play other games after the raid is clear and all chores are done.

    If you don't like it, just unsub, simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    While the OP does come around as a little too whiny, and it's easy to go with "just unsub lolz", there is valid point. Imo, the available content isn't exactly stellar (except the raid, with its old AQ vibe), and there is not really a lot of it if you take the mindless, repetitive chores (emissaries/islands/assaults) out of the picture. It's amazing how nothing has changed in this regard since !@#$ing WotLK, despite them now gloating about tEh BiGgeSt TeaM eVaH.

    In this "seasonal" mode adopted by the Devs since WotLK, which gained full steam since Legion, there is a LOT of content in the current xpac which is simply dead. Who bothers with Uldir or BoD anymore, for example? These old (from current xpac, that is) raids are as good as dead atm. There should be some reason to revisit them - Legion managed to find it, obnoxious as it may have been. That doesn't mean that a seasoned dev couldn't come with better reasons or ways to revitalise old content, without turning it into yet another boring grind.
    Would you like to see something like Raid M+ for old raids in the same expansion so they keep relevant? It worked well with dungeons but I think it would undermine a little the lore behind new raids as they come out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelpunk18 View Post
    Would you like to see something like Raid M+ for old raids in the same expansion so they keep relevant? It worked well with dungeons but I think it would undermine a little the lore behind new raids as they come out
    Idk if something like Raid+ could work, and if yes, how. I was thinking about something the lines of the TW dungeons weekly, which gives you a piece of Normal/HC raid loot according to your ilvl. You would just have to clear an old raid (in at least Normal difficulty) and voilà.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danuser
    we created a story structure for Sylvanas that, on the surface, echoed many broad strokes of the road Garrosh took (...). These parallels were intentional. But it's within the nuance that we sought to show the story grow and change.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thage View Post
    BFA was about as nuanced as a golf club to the testicles/ovaries.

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    Oh look its OP again with yet another whine thread.
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    Crabs have been removed from the game... because if I see another one I’m just going to totally lose it. *sobbing* I’m sorry, I just can’t right now... I just... OK just give me a minute, I’ll be OK..

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    Their answer would probably be: total focus on the next expansion projects to ensure quality.
    Resident hater answer would be: they do it on purpose to milk the subscribers out.

    Realistic answer is probably somewhere in between. But one thing is sure, a company of the scope of Blizzard should be able to dish out more content and be more engaging with the community than they actually are. But even not doing their possible best, here we all are. So why change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ano2024 View Post
    There are many things wrong with BfA, so they can't possibly fix them all. I understand that. And they should dedicate a lot of their resources to Shadowlands.

    But how do they get away with basically abandoning SUBSCRIPTION-based game for many months before releasing an expansion? So the deal is, you keep paying us money and we'll just do nothing for the product that you're CURRENTLY paying for. If you'r charging for the expansion cost and a subscription, then you should deliver appropriate content and fixes for it for the full duration of the expansion.

    There are many things they could do that wouldn't even take that much effort. Make essences account-wide, make corruption offer more options from your weekly mythic+ chest so you can choose the best option. Blizzard themselves said they're doing this in Shadowlands. But they decided that no, we're going to leave it as it is in BfA, cause the quality of life for people playing now doesn't matter (but please don't unsubscribe though).
    Its always nice to be able to take a break from the game before an expansion and get some shit done :') ...

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