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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Laqweeta View Post
    THIS IS WHAT UNSUBS DO.

    Good job people.
    because unsubbing definitely told them that they needed to change horrific vision runs... I'm fairly sure people communicating it being an issue did more.

  2. #62
    Question is how much more CVs drop. Needs to be around 5 times higher (so weekly give you around 5 attempts) for it to actually be worthwhile. Heck, dailies should be around 15 times higher (3k cv a daily) so you can get an attempt with 3 dailies or so. Gate the loot so it won't be op and let us have fun in your new feature.

  3. #63
    This is either a catch up mechanic, or a sign that Blizzard is seeing significant numbers of people just not doing this content.
    "There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
    "Almost every time I have gotten to know a critic personally, they keep up with the criticism but lose the venom." -- Ghostcrawler
    WoW is like 99% bear ass collection simulator -- D-Rock

  4. #64
    Utterly incredible how many people in this thread can't comprehend that the timing is 100% intended, and no, it isn't "scummy" or anything you call it, it is a simple catch up mechanic for alts, nothing more. They do these things VERY often, introduce a nerf to things after they are already completed by certain players, in order to make them easier for others. Funny how people love to complain how "alt unfriendly" this expansion is, and yet, when Blizzard makes changes to help alts...people still bitch and moan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amariw View Post
    Question is how much more CVs drop. Needs to be around 5 times higher (so weekly give you around 5 attempts) for it to actually be worthwhile. Heck, dailies should be around 15 times higher (3k cv a daily) so you can get an attempt with 3 dailies or so. Gate the loot so it won't be op and let us have fun in your new feature.
    How about you just talk to Wrathion and he gives you 50 keys for nothing Entitlement through the roof, I swear. If you want something, work for it.
    If the future is female...get ready for apocalypse.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Laqweeta View Post
    THIS IS WHAT UNSUBS DO.

    Good job people.
    Yup. Good job. Please dont come back if all you'll do is throw a temper tantrum when the game isnt how *you* want it.

  6. #66
    The only thing that bothers me is that they apply the pages drop buff straight up to rank 11. So effectively robbing everyone doing full runs of 2 vials I would actually really want those two extra vials next week to work on my 5-mask runs. They could just roll the rank 11 4 page per run feature a week after, would still be a catch-up mechanic.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Dziubla View Post
    Utterly incredible how many people in this thread can't comprehend that the timing is 100% intended, and no, it isn't "scummy" or anything you call it, it is a simple catch up mechanic for alts, nothing more. They do these things VERY often, introduce a nerf to things after they are already completed by certain players, in order to make them easier for others. Funny how people love to complain how "alt unfriendly" this expansion is, and yet, when Blizzard makes changes to help alts...people still bitch and moan.



    How about you just talk to Wrathion and he gives you 50 keys for nothing Entitlement through the roof, I swear. If you want something, work for it.
    Funny how you cant be bothered to read complaints before running your mouth about the wrong shit.

    Most people who talk about 8.3 being alt unfriendly are *CLEARLY* talking about the still gated essences.

    And btw, your hyperbole only shows just shitty your argument is. Lol

  8. #68
    Now please make vessels stack. PLEASE.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Mardux View Post
    Funny how you cant be bothered to read complaints before running your mouth about the wrong shit.

    Most people who talk about 8.3 being alt unfriendly are *CLEARLY* talking about the still gated essences.

    And btw, your hyperbole only shows just shitty your argument is. Lol
    No. Thats just you. Only you are crying about the esscences being gated.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizah View Post
    why so mad bro

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    Blizzard did increase the amount of vessels you can carry. No, they aren’t stackable, but as long as you aren’t some kind of hoarder with full bags it’s not that big of a deal. The nice thing is that with not having a 5 cap limit you can hang onto them for following weeks and get all your runs in on Tuesday and not wait to upgrade your cloak, as well as not having to do runs just to avoid cap.
    Ah, I was still talking about the currency, not the vessels, when talking about how much you can carry. I keep bumping up against the 25.000 limit.

  11. #71
    I don't see the "can hoard unlimited Coalescing Visions" note and that's worrying. Unlimited vessels are fine (should have been like that from the very beginning), but I don't want to make endless trips to the chamber. I hope they make vessels into a currency. Stop with the inventory clutter.

    Anyways, the conversion from visions to vessels is an annoying middle step that should have never existed. You want to make each Horrific Vision cost 10k Coalescing Visions? Ok, fine, but set it all up as a single step: you go into a Horrific Vision, talk to Wrathion inside, give him 10k Coalescing Visions and presto horrifico, there you go.

    This patch should have worked like this:

    - The first character you use does the quest chain for the cloak and at the end gets the cloak and unlocks the new activities.
    - Any subsequent character can get the cloak and do the activities from the start (set it up as some kind of N'Zoth memory loss thing), but can do the quest chain when they feel like it.
    - The quest chain opens up portals inside the Chamber of the Heart: Boralus/Dazar'alor, Pandaria and Uldum. BfA capital's portal changes from Silithus to the Chamber (can still go out to Silithus from the teleporter inside the Chamber), and each zone gets portals to the other zones: Chamber to BfA capital, Pandaria and Uldum; BfA capital to Chamber, Pandaria and Uldum; Pandaria to BfA capital, Chamber and Uldum; and Uldum to BfA capital, Chamber and Pandaria. This alone would have made the patch a lot less cumbersome and annoying.
    - Horrific Visions cost just 10k Coalescing Visions (no cap), paid inside the scenario.
    - No daily quests ever again. Either world quests or just fun events and interactables. If you want to cap daily rep so no one can grind it in a day, it can be capped daily (but that cap should grow daily so that it's virtually gone when everyone gets to exalted).

    There. The patch would be less of a backwards chore.

  12. #72
    Sub ran out yesterday. Blizzard posts this today, good try but no blizzard MAYBE account wide essences when you add them in 2-3 months because subs dropping still.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by EyeOculus View Post
    So blizzard caves in from that whining of limited horrific visions and coalescing visions.

    Shame.
    I suspect they caved not to whining -- there's always whining -- but to Horrific Metrics.

    They must be drowning in flop sweat in Irvine these days.
    "There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
    "Almost every time I have gotten to know a critic personally, they keep up with the criticism but lose the venom." -- Ghostcrawler
    WoW is like 99% bear ass collection simulator -- D-Rock

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Caerule View Post
    Ah, I was still talking about the currency, not the vessels, when talking about how much you can carry. I keep bumping up against the 25.000 limit.
    Same, but at least with the vessel change we can spend the currency. I agree it would be nice to increase currency though, as it is annoying to make an obligatory trip just to not cap them.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Mardux View Post
    Funny how you cant be bothered to read complaints before running your mouth about the wrong shit.

    Most people who talk about 8.3 being alt unfriendly are *CLEARLY* talking about the still gated essences.

    And btw, your hyperbole only shows just shitty your argument is. Lol
    Apparently most = all. You yourself admit that only MOST people complain about essences, so in your own words, there are other complaints related to "alt-unfriendliness", those complaints, especially when talking about 8.3, are either - rep grinds, or, most often, Horrific Visions, and access to them, and the so called "time gates". Now Blizzard did something about those complaints, and the same people STILL bitch.
    If the future is female...get ready for apocalypse.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Mardux View Post
    Yup. Good job. Please dont come back if all you'll do is throw a temper tantrum when the game isnt how *you* want it.
    Better to give feedback than just being a bootlicker when you're upset with changes to the game.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeymootwo View Post
    How do you not? I hold onto a lot of stuff and I'm practically swimming in bag space.
    right now i do good to have 4-6 slots open, almost full bank, full mats bank. all slots have the largest bag possible..........
    Member: Shadow Lands Alpha Club, Member since 4/9/2020

  18. #78
    Any sign of any other mob health nerf for tanks inside the vision? I’m really struggling, can barely do 2 minor plus the final boss or 2 minors plus a major.

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    I hope they also make vessels stacks.
    it seems like they have. If you look at the tooltip it says "Stacks to 20"

  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by chiddie View Post
    Any sign of any other mob health nerf for tanks inside the vision? I’m really struggling, can barely do 2 minor plus the final boss or 2 minors plus a major.
    What's your gear? My tank is like 440 and melts the mins (blood)

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