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  1. #181
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    I like the prequels, they had some bad writing but it all made sense in the end and the characters are great. I don't like a single character from the new ones, and I most definitely will never rewatch them like I do the first 6. The mandalorian is ok but I have no hype for any of the franchise anymore, its just dead to me. For me it wasn't george that ever ruined the series but disney so I would be happy for him to get it back and actually look forward to new stuff afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    None of that is even announced or planned. For all we know, it will only lead to a cartoon series. But you get people like this:
    They have more movies planned...what else do you think they're going to do? They obviously want to go their own way with these things and don't particularly care about canon. They're going to do the same thing Star Trek did, use prequels.
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  3. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    You're pretty off base there.
    Nope they're pretty accurate the only people claiming it's good are delusional at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    I'd much rather see Rey abandon the Jedi ways and take a balanced approach to the Force (as suggested by her yellow lightsabre blade,) then 200 years down the line her "grey Jedi" and your idea of competing fiefdoms could come under attack/pressure from Jedi/Sith fanatics who want to resurrect the old Republic/Empire.



    You should check out 1, 2 and 3. Admittedly nothing as bad as episode 8 but still pretty dire.
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  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    So yes trolling just wanted to make sure, carry on
    Well, that told me everything I need to know about your ideology. And no trolling here. I find the current state of macho masculinity, which is the norm, highly toxic and it ruins men as a lot feel inadequate as they're unable to live up to those ideals. It also emphasises some deeply troubling traits, such as "every problem can be solved with violence and should regardless of the cost." Like Poe pressing the attack where he should have run away and it ending up costing a large number of lives that could have been better used.

  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrowseer View Post
    The writing in the MMO Star Wars the Old Republic is far superior to the latest trology and I am sure whatever hot garbage this will be, shame its 'not canon', a bunch of books and comics are gonna come out for High rep pube lick... yawn already bored to tears.
    It's that kind of thing that make your kin looks like….I will let you fill the rest.

    I get it, you like KOTOR, so the writing is ''good'' and you don't like the Sequels, so the writing is ''bad'', but TOR had an atrocious problem of fitting in with the SW universe (1)

    The Tales of the Jedi introduced a first global evil Sith Empire (that is like the ones in the movies, to retell the same stories). There are already two Jedi vs Sith wars just by this.

    Then KOTOR introduces ANOTHER Sith Empire.

    Then TOR introduces ANOTHER Sith Empire and then a backup Sith Empire.

    (The point being, there are in this continuity 4 evil Sith Empire who are essentially the Empire of the OT, but more incompetent)


    (1)Classical accusations like ''he is a Mary Sue'' ''no you are a Mary Sue'' ''your mom is a Mary Sue'' are somewhat irrelevant in videogame, that said, where it's taken for granted that your character will be one. There is no excuse however that many storylines were horribly repetitive and cliché by MMO standards. Hello, JK.

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    I'm mostly interested in a huge RPG set in the Star Wars universe so I'll keep an eye out.

  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    There's an entire galaxy's worth of stories they could be telling, why should they only have it be about war just because that's the name of the franchise? The Mandalorian isn't about war, and everyone creamed their pants over that show.

    Hell, Empire was hardly about the war at all, and that's the best one.



    It's funny to me that this is the narrative we're going with now. As if "we already know where these characters have to be by the time the story is over" is somehow a point in Lucas's favor. Like...that's what it means to be a prequel. Or at least a direct prequel as those movies were.
    How exactly the Jedis are introduced in the first place in SW ?

    For over a thousand generations, the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic (of course, having a era in which they do that is ''against canon''-better have them keep peace and justice by having a war vs the Sith every 100 years)

  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post
    Everyone praises that for some reason, but you know he is the one that made the prequel trilogy, which is faaaar worse then the new trilogy.
    If the prequals had the same budget and the same Special effect technology we have nowdays, They would've been better by default.

    Maby i'm just nostalgic because Ep 1,2,3 came out when i was very Young and i liked all 3 of them.

  9. #189
    What amaze me is the people who still pretends that Georges would be appalled of the modern movies….

    Amongst other things, are you aware that Rey is the only thing they kept from his plot outline (Luke is now like Obi-Wan, and he trains a desert scavenger female Human, ''Kira'')

  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by Quaade View Post
    Well, that told me everything I need to know about your ideology. And no trolling here. I find the current state of macho masculinity, which is the norm, highly toxic and it ruins men as a lot feel inadequate as they're unable to live up to those ideals. It also emphasises some deeply troubling traits, such as "every problem can be solved with violence and should regardless of the cost." Like Poe pressing the attack where he should have run away and it ending up costing a large number of lives that could have been better used.
    If you think Star Wars of all movie series was full of "toxic masculinity" you have no clue about the definition of the concept idiotic though it may be and are simply trolling for reactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    What amaze me is the people who still pretends that Georges would be appalled of the modern movies….

    Amongst other things, are you aware that Rey is the only thing they kept from his plot outline (Luke is now like Obi-Wan, and he trains a desert scavenger female Human, ''Kira'')
    There is nothing wrong with having a woman be the lead in a Star Wars trilogy the problem is the push to make her even more overpowered than Anakin was and with fewer personality issues. Jaina Solo, Mara Jade, Tennel Ka, Tahiri Veila, Iella Wessiri Antilles, Ysanne Isard, Danni Quee, Bastilla Shan, Mirax Terrik and frankly hundred of other characters are all known and for the most part loved by the eu fanbase. Why because they aren't puddle deep characters who are the definition of a Mary Sue. They have actual struggles and things don't always turn out well for them and that makes them far better characters than the absolute crapfest of a character that Rey Palpatine is.

  11. #191
    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    If you think Star Wars of all movie series was full of "toxic masculinity" you have no clue about the definition of the concept idiotic though it may be and are simply trolling for reactions.

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    There is nothing wrong with having a woman be the lead in a Star Wars trilogy the problem is the push to make her even more overpowered than Anakin was and with fewer personality issues. Jaina Solo, Mara Jade, Tennel Ka, Tahiri Veila, Iella Wessiri Antilles, Ysanne Isard, Danni Quee, Bastilla Shan, Mirax Terrik and frankly hundred of other characters are all known and for the most part loved by the eu fanbase. Why because they aren't puddle deep characters who are the definition of a Mary Sue. They have actual struggles and things don't always turn out well for them and that makes them far better characters than the absolute crapfest of a character that Rey Palpatine is.
    Oh, come on. Jaina Solo is way more a Mary Sue than Rey. FFS, [I]her own uncle and parents agree to have her kill her own brother[/I

  12. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post
    Everyone praises that for some reason, but you know he is the one that made the prequel trilogy, which is faaaar worse then the new trilogy.
    I, for one, think that the "prequel trilogy", for all its bajillion faults, is still superior to the new trilogy. Two pros the prequels have over the new trilogy, for example, are: a consistent story arc spanning the three movies, and no "forced diversity".

    OT: I kind of want to hope that this will be good, or at least 'okay', but I can't think of good storytelling ideas when the good guys are "at their peak" at the beginning and we know they'll end still "at their peak" by the end of the movie. I would be more interested in an "origin story" for the Jedi and the Sith organizations, when the Force first began to affect people in ways to give them Force powers.

    EDIT: I would be cool if the main character is part of a race different than human, though. Togruta, Twi'lek, Chagrian, Zabrak... Or at least the apprentice.
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  13. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by Denizly View Post
    Given the recent stuff with Disney CEO quiting (less important) and G. Lucas saying he wants SW back + Mandalorian being good(more important), I'll dare to hope that this won't suck.

    Just no more forced diversity for the sake of diversity. Make a good character and fans won't care if it's a trans lesbian atheist who does cross-fit.
    Also fire Kennedy, she done F'd up enough.
    A chuckle was had here, sir. The added cross-fit did it for me. Well done!
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  14. #194
    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    I, for one, think that the "prequel trilogy", for all its bajillion faults, is still superior to the new trilogy. Two pros the prequels have over the new trilogy, for example, are: a consistent story arc spanning the three movies, and no "forced diversity".

    OT: I kind of want to hope that this will be good, or at least 'okay', but I can't think of good storytelling ideas when the good guys are "at their peak" at the beginning and we know they'll end still "at their peak" by the end of the movie. I would be more interested in an "origin story" for the Jedi and the Sith organizations, when the Force first began to affect people in ways to give them Force powers.
    I'm still amazed that people who need to take medication to cope over a t-shit (the Force is female-and again, for many languages, this sentence is about as shocking as ''water is yet-there are genders for things in many language, and it's ''LA FORCE'' in French) managed to not grasp the rather strident anti-capitalist message of the PT….

  15. #195
    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Oh, come on. Jaina Solo is way more a Mary Sue than Rey. FFS, [I]her own uncle and parents agree to have her kill her own brother[/I
    What does that have to do with her being a Mary Sue or not, exactly? The idea that she would have the capability to stop her twin seems reasonable. By that point in the story he had proven that he needed to be stopped, and the rest of the family either had zero chance of stopping him or shouldn't try in the first place. She kind of got stuck with the task by default - right time and place.

    Not saying there isn't an argument that she might be a Mary Sue, just... What does your statement have to do with that argument?

  16. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by Liftinmammals View Post
    A chuckle was had here, sir. The added cross-fit did it for me. Well done!
    Except your fracking know that if the character is not a WASP, the usual suspect will scream ''FORCE DIVERSITY'' (the fact that there are lunatics in the USA that still believe in 2020 that people of the ethnicity of Poe Dameron are ''not white'' is pretty telling-it's Know Nothing grade rabid racism)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaktar View Post
    What does that have to do with her being a Mary Sue or not, exactly? The idea that she would have the capability to stop her twin seems reasonable. By that point in the story he had proven that he needed to be stopped, and the rest of the family either had zero chance of stopping him or shouldn't try in the first place. She kind of got stuck with the task by default - right time and place.

    Not saying there isn't an argument that she might be a Mary Sue, just... What does your statement have to do with that argument?
    People say that Rey is a ''Mary Sue'' because she had it easier than Luke (who, uh, was raised by his maternal in laws. Well.) I'm pointing out that about who get screwed in life, Jaina vs Jacen is an epic one.

    Jaina : I'm the founder of the new Imperial dynasty, cause it's REALLY obvious who is leading in my couple
    Jacen : I'm repeatedly kidnapped and tortured by aliens. With tentacles BDSM device. I father a child with a Amazon space Jedi princess, who clearly lead my couple.

  17. #197
    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Except your fracking know that if the character is not a WASP, the usual suspect will scream ''FORCE DIVERSITY'' (the fact that there are lunatics in the USA that still believe in 2020 that people of the ethnicity of Poe Dameron are ''not white'' is pretty telling-it's Know Nothing grade rabid racism)
    I don't really get into all that. I believe the racism thing is blown completely out of proportion and is limited to those that live life looking into the screen and base their entire thinking off of what social media feeds them as truth.
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  18. #198
    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    I'm still amazed that people who need to take medication to cope over a t-shit (the Force is female-and again, for many languages, this sentence is about as shocking as ''water is yet-there are genders for things in many language, and it's ''LA FORCE'' in French) managed to not grasp the rather strident anti-capitalist message of the PT….
    I'm still amazed that people still need to feel superior and to achieve that, they openly insult and demean others. Also notice how I didn't even mention that specific moment you mentioned... ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    I'm still amazed that people still need to feel superior and to achieve that, they openly insult and demean others. Also notice how I didn't even mention that specific moment you mentioned... ever.
    Check how many time the t-shirt is mentioned in that thread.

    Also, do a mental exercice. Take any movie that was hated over the previous decade. Can you really name the PRODUCER of the movie without IMBBing it ?v

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Check how many time the t-shirt is mentioned in that thread.
    Now check how many of times the t-shirt was mentioned by me.

    Also, do a mental exercice. Take any movie that was hated over the previous decade. Can you really name the PRODUCER of the movie without IMBBing it ?v
    Why? What's the point of that? Especially considering I watch very few movies (I watched less than 10 in the last ten years) AND there are even fewer franchises I'm invested enough to look up producers' names and stuff like that.
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