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    is punisher a better fighter than Black Widow

    Who would win in a fight? Punisher or Black widow? it seems that Castle is more hardcore than Natasha is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the game View Post
    Who would win in a fight? Punisher or Black widow? it seems that Castle is more hardcore than Natasha is.
    Frank would kill her or at least pull a M.A.D if he realize that he ain't coming out alive.

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    I believe the Punisher lost when they fought in secret empire

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    Going strictly hand-to-hand?
    Punisher by a bloody mile.
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    are they just regular people with no super powers? i know the punisher is, but idk about widow.

    if she is, then of course. highly trained male vs. highly trained female, biological differences take over here.

    now if it's with guns, then idk. punisher is pretty legit.

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    A non lethal fight black widow likely wins, a lethal one the punisher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    are they just regular people with no super powers? i know the punisher is, but idk about widow.

    if she is, then of course. highly trained male vs. highly trained female, biological differences take over here.

    now if it's with guns, then idk. punisher is pretty legit.
    Punisher is just a guy though likely at the peak a non augmented person can get to.

    Widow has some augments but nothing major, likely a bit above peak male but not by much.

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    There's a small difference when BW fought Winter Soldier. But...i think the results would end the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    Punisher is just a guy though likely at the peak a non augmented person can get to.

    Widow has some augments but nothing major, likely a bit above peak male but not by much.
    well, if there's augments then that evens things out. if she's above peak male, with her special training, she beats punisher.

    frank's just got military training, widow's training is likely better than his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    well, if there's augments then, that evens things out. if she's above peak male, with her special training, she beats punisher.

    frank's just got military training, widow's training is likely better than his.
    Franks got aloooooot of experience fighting augmented and super powered people though, If the punisher could just kill her he’d have a really good chance other wise though he’d hold back to much And lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    Franks got aloooooot of experience fighting augmented and super powered people though, If the punisher could just kill her he’d have a really good chance other wise though he’d hold back to much And lose.
    well, i'm assuming this is hand-to-hand combat, rather than with gadgets and weapons.

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    Not sure how anyone in this thread is legitimately saying Punisher.

    Your question was "is Punisher a better fighter than Black Widow". Fighter. Meaning fighting with hands and feet.

    1 minute of research easily answers this question - he is not. That's your answer.

    If you want to expand on the question to something like "Who would win, or who is more powerful" then that gets more complicated and then maybe some of these answers could be applicable.

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    Edit: Another poster changed my mind lol

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    Hand to hand ? Black widow would mop the floor with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    Franks got aloooooot of experience fighting augmented and super powered people though, If the punisher could just kill her he’d have a really good chance other wise though he’d hold back to much And lose.
    While franks has experience fighting augmented people, he mainly goes after the regular gangs the real hero’s are too busy to deal with
    The widow is an avengers who kills super powered aliens on a weekly basis as-well as unpowered humans when she pissed off at them.
    The widow has better training, more experience and is smarter.
    Frank on the other hand has a bad habit of working for the villains

    And the time where frank beat a poor Defenceless woman to death after he tried to infiltrate a white supremacists gang.(a storyline that showed frank has issues with black people)
    Franks an idiot who would get killed by the black widow

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    If they're slugging it out, Frank already lost, and it's gonna be Widow.

    Which is why the first thing she notices is being slammed into a wall by the .50 caliber round Frank just slammed into the cavity that used to be her chest.

    It's all gonna be who decides to take out whom. They'll set the ground for the encounter, and they're both wily enough to ensure that ground favors them. Neither of them play "fair", either. They don't want to test each other. They'd just want to put each other in the ground, as efficiently as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldrathian View Post
    Not sure how anyone in this thread is legitimately saying Punisher.

    Your question was "is Punisher a better fighter than Black Widow". Fighter. Meaning fighting with hands and feet.

    1 minute of research easily answers this question - he is not. That's your answer.

    If you want to expand on the question to something like "Who would win, or who is more powerful" then that gets more complicated and then maybe some of these answers could be applicable.
    if you read more than the thread title you would see that I did expand to who would win in a fight.
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    Highly trained Male vs highly trained female, Castle will win hands down he has the strength and size advantage, not to mention having a stupidly high pain tolerance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedsaint View Post
    While franks has experience fighting augmented people, he mainly goes after the regular gangs the real hero’s are too busy to deal with
    The widow is an avengers who kills super powered aliens on a weekly basis as-well as unpowered humans when she pissed off at them.
    The widow has better training, more experience and is smarter.
    Frank on the other hand has a bad habit of working for the villains
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    And the time where frank beat a poor Defenceless woman to death after he tried to infiltrate a white supremacists gang.(a storyline that showed frank has issues with black people)
    Franks an idiot who would get killed by the black widow
    You must be aware that widow was literally a Russian assassin right? Frank working for hydra isn’t The negative you think it is when thor was right there along side him and for the same reason being that they both followed cap’s lead.

    As for fighting experience the punisher isn’t lacking in any regard as he’s thought a ton of hero’s and villains as well as aliens and magical creatures like frost trolls elfs ect. Just because he goes from street level crime often doesn’t at all mean he can’t take on the larger threats widow goes up against.

    And ya frank killed a woman after being druged while trying to sneak in and deal with a KKk stand in to wipe them out but again black widow was literally a Russian assassin she likely killed far more innocents while under her own control unlike frank.

    He’s also not racist.
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    Would say Black Widow she seems better trained in fighting, Punisher takes as much hits as he deals, he just seem to win on being able to take more hits then who he fights, while Black widow actually can avoid being hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwank05 View Post
    Highly trained Male vs highly trained female, Castle will win hands down he has the strength and size advantage, not to mention having a stupidly high pain tolerance.
    Widow is above highly trained because she was Augmented and has a higher pain tolerance then the punisher because of it. Punisher still has the strength advantage but widow is faster (as pointed out by widow her self) the results are up in the air depending on which kind fight it is.

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