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  1. #201
    Greetings!

    I just tryed WoW Classic, just signed up for my 2nd month. For the basic differences I see leveling 1-30 anyways,
    between retail and classic are:
    Retail graphics are obviously newer, tighter, more detailed. In the open world leveling, you pretty much have to
    be braindead to get killed in retail, all the mobs scale to your level. They die faster. You loot faster, have more flight
    paths, quests are on map, it is all designed for speed and ease. So, if you like that, you will prefer retail. Takes way
    less real time to level up.
    However, there-in lies the rub. There is no fear in the open world retail, no sense of what's around the corner. Mobs
    are a certain level, and if you aggro one too many, you can die- easily. Mobs of various levels are interspersed, so you
    have to watch it killing mob X for a quest, mob Y 2 levels higher may just take a liking to you. Dungeons are lengthy,
    so not used really for speed leveling, but again just do them to check them out of you want- for the fun of it lol. It starts
    to be a grind much earlier than retail, where the daily quests become the grind.

    Tips for classic - money is hard to come by early on. Only thing you need to make sure is near your level is your weapon,
    otherwise get by with quests gear or the occasional AH bought green for some really old gear slot. Killing things faster is
    the only way to speed up leveling. On that note- I always make an lvl 1AH alt by the time you get out of starter areas (level
    10 or so). This allows you the big time saver of logging out at an inn for rest Xp near where you are leveling, not wasting
    time and money flying back and forth to sell stuff on AH. And you will want to sell cloth, skins, ores, herbs, green gear drops,
    etc, on the AH from early on, even if it nets you only 10's of silver to start, it all adds up. Simply mail your items to your alt
    parked in a city near AH/mailbox/Bank. The alt can study prices, sell and buy items, etc.

    EDIT add: NA server question. I have found Ironforge.pro the most reliable for total classic populations and horde/ally ratios. I picked a server that was not one of the top 5 popualtion wise, as I have heard queues to get in are starting to happen and that sucks. I chose one just below that, with a horde/ally ration of no worse than 60/40, seems to have worked well so far. See lots of people in the 10-20 and 20-30 zones, most will group with you if nearby to finish a quest off quicker. Plenty of 60s standing around cities, chat messages for some 50-60 dungeon groups, MC pugs, recruiting to fill out raid slots, etc.
    Last edited by Guddocter; 2020-03-26 at 04:32 PM.

  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    Multiple servers have less than 500 players total. You are barking up the wrong tree. Less.....than.....500.....players.
    Prove it...
    "stop puting you idiotic liberal words into my mouth"
    -ynnady

  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    I SoLo Wq So BfA bAd.

    bANanAs!

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    Who has 20 different sources of damage? No one says pressing more than one button makes a good MMO. Just you. But pressing more than one button is more engaging than pressing one button. That is a banana.
    But we do press more than one button in Classic. Well, unless you're a mage, but they got other things going for them.
    Quote Originally Posted by atenime45 View Post
    The 10% reward. It's was unspoken rule that you DONT attack other faction so everyone could enjoy the 10% reward. But now no one cares about that anymore

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    Prove it...
    His comment is trolling joke xD, like last night i had a 30min que to my server xD A que in retail hasent happend since Wrath i bet/maybe the start of cata.

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Thundering View Post
    His comment is trolling joke xD, like last night i had a 30min que to my server xD A que in retail hasent happend since Wrath i bet/maybe the start of cata.
    yeah i dunno...maybe that cross realm stuff has something to do with retail not having ques,oh and the little fact that realm capacity is far larger than classic....oh and that there are like a bunch more servers....and i still see ques on my realm (tarren mill) sometimes

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Jurwi View Post
    That 2 weeks was the worst part of Classic. Only good thing about it was that it immediately ended once BGs were released.
    Fair enough, I could definitely see why some people wouldn't like it. But it was the only reason to play for me. The classic world feels empty now while leveling, so i just had to quit. Didn't want to keep playing alone. BFA actually feels more alive now. My friend decided to start playing wow again since she's self isolating, so we decided to boot up our old characters and start leveling together again. The classic zones, outland, and northrend have players running around everywhere. It's awesome.

  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Kpmk View Post
    The classic world feels empty now while leveling, so i just had to quit.
    You need a bigger server.

    I've been leveling up shaman with my friend (warrior) and we constantly see others. Heck, after lvl40 we've had to actually skip quests because it would take too long to finish them with so many others questing or grinding the spots.

  8. #208
    Plenty of people in zones 10-40 on both Benediction and Sulfuras. Most willing to group to finish quests. And they are on YOUR server, you
    can friend them, run across them again, or if a douchebag make a note and that guys repuatation will soon precede him.

    Whereas, I quit retail about 7 months ago after leveling my main to 110. The number of people running around was meaningless imo- the shared server shards meant 95% of them were from some other nameless server, you would never see them again, and had no reason to interact with them. Very little acceptance
    of group invites when doing quests. It was like walking around downtown in a large city on a work day- sure it was bustling, but there was no interaction.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Jurwi View Post
    You need a bigger server.

    I've been leveling up shaman with my friend (warrior) and we constantly see others. Heck, after lvl40 we've had to actually skip quests because it would take too long to finish them with so many others questing or grinding the spots.
    He's not wrong though, the levelling world is empty as fuck. This is coming from Mograine which is a high pop pvp server

  10. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by Guddocter View Post
    Plenty of people in zones 10-40 on both Benediction and Sulfuras. Most willing to group to finish quests. And they are on YOUR server, you
    can friend them, run across them again, or if a douchebag make a note and that guys repuatation will soon precede him.

    Whereas, I quit retail about 7 months ago after leveling my main to 110. The number of people running around was meaningless imo- the shared server shards meant 95% of them were from some other nameless server, you would never see them again, and had no reason to interact with them. Very little acceptance
    of group invites when doing quests. It was like walking around downtown in a large city on a work day- sure it was bustling, but there was no interaction.
    Leveling to 110 is not retail though. Retail starts at 110. It's this kind of crap that gives the rest of us normal classic players a bad name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lollerlaban View Post
    He's not wrong though, the levelling world is empty as fuck. This is coming from Mograine which is a high pop pvp server
    Just started a new alt on one of the busiest servers, and the world is completely dead. Got to mid 30s without interacting with a single other player. I would see the odd person running in the distance, but overall it's dead.

    Still able to form groups at 60 though, so not the end of the world.

  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    BfA is a black hole. A void of nothing.
    No community.
    Can (and will) be played solo and without ever saying a word.

    Classic is the one and only good MMORPG of the market.

    Facts
    not to mention less players.

  12. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    yeah i dunno...maybe that cross realm stuff has something to do with retail not having ques,oh and the little fact that realm capacity is far larger than classic....oh and that there are like a bunch more servers....and i still see ques on my realm (tarren mill) sometimes
    Queues still happen from time to time on retail, but as you said, the game has specifically been designed to avoid that situation. Much larger realms and cross realm tech etc have helped reduce load. I find it so funny that some delusional classic fans brag about their inferior setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundering View Post
    not to mention less players.
    You don't honestly believe classic has more than 10-15% of retails numbers do you?

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    Queues still happen from time to time on retail, but as you said, the game has specifically been designed to avoid that situation. Much larger realms and cross realm tech etc have helped reduce load. I find it so funny that some delusional classic fans brag about their inferior setup.

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    You don't honestly believe classic has more than 10-15% of retails numbers do you?
    Prove it...
    "stop puting you idiotic liberal words into my mouth"
    -ynnady

  14. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    Prove it...
    the number of realms and much less capacity proves it

  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    the number of realms and much less capacity proves it
    Please provide the capacity numbers.
    "stop puting you idiotic liberal words into my mouth"
    -ynnady

  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    Please provide the capacity numbers.
    #nochanges?

  17. #217
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    Love how people on both sides of the divide argue live is dead, classic is dead...
    I suspect a lot of players go to wherever the new patch is, I love to pop onto whichever has newer content and since the patches for live and classic are staggered, it works out well.
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    Proof that the mmochamp community can be a bitter and lonely place. What a shame.

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    #nochanges?
    Ignore her - she goes into every thread making insane claims about classic having twice the players of retail etc, and then when anyone rejects the absolutely ridiculous claim, she demands they provide proof.

  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    Ignore her - she goes into every thread making insane claims about classic having twice the players of retail etc, and then when anyone rejects the absolutely ridiculous claim, she demands they provide proof.
    i dont rly care if it has,its not even that imposible,considering classic is very casual friendly at its endgame,the reason wow became so popular in the first place,it catered to the more casual mmo crowd

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    i dont rly care if it has,its not even that imposible,considering classic is very casual friendly at its endgame,the reason wow became so popular in the first place,it catered to the more casual mmo crowd
    I think its doing extremely well, and has certainly surprised SOME people.

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