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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Laqweeta View Post
    And that's why content like this gets delivered.

    You need to start caring, for the sake of the game.
    And do what? Storm Fortress BIzzard? Run to the forums to demand resignations? There is nothing to care about. People can do any difficulty of the raid without the cloak. LFR is no different. People keep asking for more freedom in this game but as soon as someone else's freedom interferes with you then it's bring out the fucking pitchforks. LFR can be a cluster fuck. If that's not your scene then maybe don't do LFR.
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    why so mad bro

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Barzotti View Post
    Every time the devs think "LFR players can't be THAT lazy and retarded" (Durumu, Garrosh, Archimonde, Argus) and require a bit of effort and more than two functional brain cells, said players prove them wrong. That's hilariously sad.
    I hope that Blizz will require an idiot test as a requirement for Lfr, the one you do if you get caught drunk driving for the second time here in germany, for example
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    My group completed the LFR this morninging with 7 stacks of determination. I think it's a fun fight, but it demands fairly quick response times and people to be aware where they are standing (typical problems for LFR ) . The cloaks are definitely required to be able to finish the fight alive. You might be able to participate for a brief period before you turn, but you're just wasting the spot of someone who might live long enough to contribute a meaningful amount.

  4. #124
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    The chaotic evil part of me wants them to keep it as is because it's honestly hilarious

    But the rational part of me wants them to hurry up and fix it
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  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Then don't have an alt if you don't want to do stuff.
    I want to farm appearances.

  6. #126
    I am baffled. Both some comments and claims here, as well the sheer lack of commitment of players.

    Getting the Cloak takes between 1 and 3 hours. 1 hour if you already did it once with another char. You can skip a good chunk of scenarios by talking to the npc. I bet many don't even know that.

    The Cloak exists for a while now, even closing in to its final major upgrade, people not having it but joining LFR Nzoth is beyond me.
    If you can't bring up the dedication to get the Cloak, there's absolutely no place for someone to go LFR.

    The encounter should exactly stay like it is. Just so I can laugh at people complain about being mind controlled from the get go.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    It just tells a lot about a playerbase when a 1 1/2 hour questline for a major upgrade and in this case necessity is too much to ask, if you want to complete the whole lfr and add up que times you can basically do it before reaching the last wing.
    This is the same player base where half of them bitched about the whole "Do one clear of the weekly vision or kill N'zoth on normal or above to upgrade cloak slightly." for being a massive grind.

  8. #128
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    I hope they keep it in as-is, but perhaps they should prevent being able to queue without it.

  9. #129
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    People complaining about lfr.. big yikes

    Imagine a world where you are literally handed free loot.. and people are actually still angry about it..

    Don’t get me wrong I know where OP is going with this but uhhhhhh - I mean even heroic is a joke with all of these cloaks, essences, and op AF corruptions.. can you imagine what it will be like when everyone can run R3 of every item and the boss just dies like bosses on classic?

    Big yikes

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by dacoolist View Post

    Imagine a world where you are literally handed free loot.. and people are actually still angry about it..
    The hilarious part, LFR is not even required for gearing. Alone doing worldquests gives you plenty of loot.
    M+0, arguably easier than LFR imo, gives the same itemlevel.
    On that note, emissaries even reward you with 445 items, if you geared high enough.

    I geared a twink to 448 by simply doing the invasions, emissaries and four m+0 for the weekly quest to get an heroic raid item. I was once in LFR out of accident, didn't realized only drops 430.

    I only would go LFR for the trinkets... That's about it.

  11. #131
    Isnt lfr supposed to be storymode? You should only have a glorified dummy bosses in there that do some abilities that look like something, but arent really dangerous?

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Sosuke Aizen View Post
    I maxed on stacks of determination so I feel you.
    That's actually possible? Oh my. Think the most I've ever gotten to the past 10 years is like 8 on Durumu back in ToT..

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    That's actually possible? Oh my. Think the most I've ever gotten to the past 10 years is like 8 on Durumu back in ToT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    That's actually possible? Oh my. Think the most I've ever gotten to the past 10 years is like 8 on Durumu back in ToT..
    Durumu and Archimonde both brought my groups to 10 many a time
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  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Omedon View Post
    Of course some people will do the 8.3 unlock line multiple times, but my surface observation is that's seen as crazytalk and should (and has yet to) be sufficiently shortcutted.
    Eh, it's been shortcutted with the skips. It only takes about 20-40 minutes at that and most of that is just flying. You really on have to do Uldum/Vale assault and BWD. Other than that it's easy/skippable.

  16. #136
    Meh... one of the things I want to complete before my sub runs out is to see the story end, which is killing n'zoth. I suppose I will have to just go in there and stay until its done and prepare a lot of time.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Omedon View Post
    Honestly? Yes. Unless this game suddenly institutes the aforementioned FFXIV-like levels of personal gating to filter us from each other until we know what we are doing, the proper response to respect time investment is to make it foolproof, because some people are fools, and LFR is the access level tier for this content.

    Just my opinion. I'm sure some will disagree.
    And if you make something foolproof, you'll meet better fools. As in, ones that can "beat" the proofing.

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by -aiko- View Post
    I hope they keep it in as-is, but perhaps they should prevent being able to queue without it.
    I can't imagine it's that hard for them to do. They already ilvl gate the LFR. If they're going to be insistent about having to use certain items then they need to make it so that it isn't opt-in.

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by EyeOculus View Post
    I am baffled. Both some comments and claims here, as well the sheer lack of commitment of players.

    Getting the Cloak takes between 1 and 3 hours. 1 hour if you already did it once with another char. You can skip a good chunk of scenarios by talking to the npc. I bet many don't even know that.

    The Cloak exists for a while now, even closing in to its final major upgrade, people not having it but joining LFR Nzoth is beyond me.
    If you can't bring up the dedication to get the Cloak, there's absolutely no place for someone to go LFR.

    The encounter should exactly stay like it is. Just so I can laugh at people complain about being mind controlled from the get go.
    The problem isn’t that people aren’t happy they get insta mind controlled. The thing is that it screws over everyone else in the raid that has the cloak.

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    Honestly I think the biggest thing would be to put a "cape required" on the final wing in addition to the I level req. Past that I do expect N'zoth to have his damaged lowered a bit in LFR, even at 10 stacks its amazing how fast the group can drop. Also wouldn't be surprised if they delayed the first pool a bit, or just make it's sanity drain negligible, because LFR loves to drop it on the bodies......

    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    That's actually possible? Oh my. Think the most I've ever gotten to the past 10 years is like 8 on Durumu back in ToT..
    Was in one tonight that hit 10 and was stuck there for another 7 wipes, at which point I ditched the group.
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