... A lot of NPCs in WoW are shown as neutral. That alone explains why they dont commit racial purging of their ranks. Tirion is neutral Alliance side. Thrall and the Earthen Ring are neutral horde side.
In the WoW story, weve seen a lot of characters of specific races who do not care for the Alliance Horde conflict.
Cenarion Circle, despite being Nelf in origin, is not Alliance.
The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!
Thrall was chosen warchief by Orgrim. They were friends. I think we can consider Orgrim Thrall's predecessor.
Appointed Lor'themar but still was the boss. He was Horde-affiliated but he was also absent.Kael was never in the horde. He departed with Illidan and appointed Lorthemar before the events of TBC even began.
The Alliance treats them like they are. During the scenario to rescue Baine during the fighting Shaw takes some time out of fighting to make a dig at Thrall and Varok saying that he somehow holds THEM responsible for King Llane's death, something that happened when Thrall was an infant, for one thing. It may not be the entire Alliance that holds this mindset, but the leader of their intelligence division and one of their High King's top advisors sure does.
The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.
only cause I'm leaving your post on the copy to break up you OTHER posts to respond.
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Yes, but Thrall's horde is made up of totally different forces only bringing in some of the same groups. No amani trolls, no major gruop of ogres. not even all the orcish clans followed in. Thrall's freed orcs and whatever groups he found along the way to founding Orgrimmar. I can't call it the same horde.
Kael never made any approach to the horde and was already hooking up with the legion by the time the horde was working with Quel'thalas.
my take from why it didnt happen (aside from the obvious stupid answer of "cUZ bLiZaRD waNtED tO" ) is that not all druids are in the cenarion circle and those that are in the cenarion circle are mostly natural and often seen in their faction for the regards of things that relates to the druids or druid stuff.
which also kinda ruins how druids work, because unlike warriors and rogues who dont really need someone to teach them or mages who can learn their stuff without directly learning from someone, druids are kind of a hero class to begin with like how DKs came to be because of arthas and how DHs are made and trained because of Illidan. druids too came to be because of cenarious and need to learn their specific ways from their elders.
but this idea was already destroyed when they introduced zandalari and kul tiran druids into the game, UNLESS they too were trained by cenarious or someone he trained and was very powerful but now out of the picture.
No. I don't even like blood elves. I just find it ridiculous that Blizzard thinks it is okay for a race that is self-defined as traitors to exist, and appalling and disgusting that anyone would consider that appealing.
Also, it's a horrid shoehorned excuse to have high elves, without having high elves, despite high elves already being perfectly playable.
Infracted.
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The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!
No, Highborne elves were never blood elves. Some players might have viewed them that way after Suramar (some BElf players wanting the night elf connection when they saw oh.. night elf cities are pretty, let's recognise we're related - ask them where they were during cata with the Shen'dralar who instead have a ruined city), but it is clear that high elves and blood elves were high elves and blood elves, not highborne.
Highborne were always night elves and became playable in cata, they are a huge part of night elf lore, same as the Order of Elune, the druids and the Illidari, they led night elf society for the best parts of 5k years. They are what connect night elves to high elves, but the highborne group with Darth'remar became high elves (then many became blood elves), and highbonre don't look like high elves.. but they're related. Cata has a storyline and a book going over the reuniting process of the surviving original highborne and the Darnassian group, MoP through to BFA show lots of highborne npc, and Azsuna and Suramar are highborne based stories and they are all night elven whether kaldorei or Shal'dorei.
But it's still no excuse not to show more in-game. They are serious enough that they are a focus of an entire book in this cataclysm stage, but my point is that blizzard don't like showing night elf development in game at all, yet it interests people greatly always has - the success of the Legion broken isle zones, especially Suramar and the Nightborne, and the success that spun 4 novels on them, is ample proof.
Proof of in-game neglect prior to Legion? Worgen come to Darnassus, they get 1 tree, place isn't upgraded, Stormwind and orgrimmar are. Eldre'thalas, that should have been upgraded isn't. compared to the story of theforsaken we get night elves whipped in stonetalon, Desolace, Azshar and Ashenvale, it doesn't matter if they're sentinels, new mages or druids. The druids appear in Mount Hyjal, but it's a class thing, not a race thing as you can clearly see lots of tauren and night elves, and the new worgen and troll candidates playing part.
Point was, the night elves are not seriuously devleoped in cata, they are given similar treatment to all the other original races that got revamped, and they actually are the only ones whooped in a string of storylines that see them nawrrowly escape annihilation, which Danuser and Afrisiabi give them a few years later in the WoT. Even their arcane development and pristine city with its nigiht elf sub-race are given to the horde when the decision is made to make them layable.
If that's not neglect and bias, or i don't care or a giant freaking FUCK YOU bend over and take it to night elves I don't know what is. Seeing night elves devastated, and every y good thing done to them, either shared with blood elves (demon hunters and nightborne ) or taken over to the horde entirely (Suramar).
so much good its done them.
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I think this is a later stance that came about after much discussion about what the elves were.
It is my opinion that the majority thought was that Night elves banished the Highborne in almost all cases. those Exiled beings are what turned into the high elves and the high elves turned into the blood elves.
The Shendralar were the only pocket of OG pre-sundering elves that didn't get word of the banishing/exile
This was the lore of the time in cataclysm that was later mucked up because other shit also wound up happening.
I'm not trying to argue the CURRENT lore. I'm stating what the lore was going into Cataclysm.
So this whole Highborne were night elves thing that you're going to go on about was not what the story was pushing. The story at that time was "night elves kicked out the highborne".
Later retcons changed shit so now we sit here and wonder why Shendralar came out looking like normal night elves and not mutated somehow.