Other forums.

[CastletonSnob]

What forums do you go to besides this one?

[The Butt Witch]

None regularly. I just play video games or work when I'm a computer.

[ParanoiD84]

Mostly sub reddits like 40k lore, total war etc.

[Kathandira]

Whatever game I am playing at the time. Currently I frequent the ESO, and GTA:O forums.

[avitush]

I sometimes browse through and post stuff in Steam forums for various games. And I post YouTube comments every once in a while, if that counts.

Everything else, I just lurk/read and don't really post anything.

[Ashleyxoxo]

Subreddits.

[Strawberry]

Steam forum, hardforum.com and sometimes Reddit. It has tons of information however I never understood its popularity, the forum is really ugly and ineffective.

[Morae]

I admit I take enjoyment of reading blizz forums.

mmoc+blizz forums are the ones I visit most regularly. I do use reddit sometimes when its about non blizz games, but generally speaking its very rare I have to go there.

[Dug]

I used the escapist forums years ago but website changed a lot and I'm not even sure if they're around anymore. Reddit and 4chan if those count

[Dwarfhamster]

i visit a watch forum pretty regularly. There are subforums for a lot of brands and the Rolex one is pretty entertaining to read, filled with a bunch of douche canoes.

[Cruor]

Serious question here. Are there forums where you can actually speak your mind without being banned/silenced/warned by left wing mods? This forum needs no explanation on how bad its gotten, you can't discuss anything the least bit "offensive" Reddit is no better... I remember making a post about how Fallout 4 was too SJW and feminist, (this is a few years ago obv) it was quickly locked and I was banned from that forum. No warning. No curses, no insults, I stated "Heres what I think, here are my examples" multiple people PMed me and said they agreed but can't say it because they didn't want to be banned.

I want liberals to be there so I can argue with them but I don't want to be insta banned for sharing my views, its a catch 22.

[smityx]

Only so much of this stuff I can handle. Mainly will go to other hobbies like Blowoutforums a sports card website.

[Doctor Amadeus]

A local NHL Hockey Forum for The Minnesota Wild, Twitter and more recently Periscope it's a lot of fun.

[zenkai]

What forums do you go to besides this one?

reddit and various tech forums.

[Doctor Amadeus]

pick one... left wing isn't liberals... liberals are right wing...

No they aren't, that's completely fabricated bullshit. Liberal means left, it always has and always will, there is no credible source that says otherwise and no other more wildly understood truth over all.

YOU on the other hand might be nationalistic or whatever the fuck, but that is a right wing, extreme right wing point of view.

[Dwarfhamster]

ya'll getting your versions of "liberal" mixed up. liberal in the politics-sense is left wing. liberal in the academic/political economics sense is used to describe a pro-democracy, free market ideal--that is, a libertarian (in the US context, if that helps), view.

[Tuor]

I post in some other forums aswell, only one other forum is english speaking, all other are portuguese speaking forums.

[Doctor Amadeus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberals_(Sweden)

they're right wing... your democrats are even more right wing than they are...

No you are talking about a Party not an Ideology, Democratic Party is a Party, a Democrat just like Swedish Liberals you linked are Party, this however not explicitly their ideology.

Liberal however, classic or otherwise is and has always been an entirely left wing ideology, if you want I can even break down it's origins and specific pillars of liberalism.


Libertarian is an entirely different animal, it is a center position, which means at it's base it is a totally free and independent idiotilogy almost entirely dependent on circumstances.

Liberal or Conservatism do not.

They may be interpreted differently depending on where you are but that really doesn't have much to do with part as it does, ideology, and more over how that ideology gets specifically applied.


And Example National Socialism, Socialism is a Liberal stance, Nationalism is almost an entirely Conservative Stance.


Meaning say I could be entirely for Socialism depending on WHOM is the subject, Just as Nationalism one may not all agree on who is one Nation Subjective, not objective.


Which is why Parties almost never based on one ideology except for maybe say Communism, however even Communism is Left, even though it's very much based on a lot of Right wing pronouncements such as Nationalism.


The point is party and ideology are almost always mutually exclusive.

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i'm not getting it mixed up... the liberals are on the right... parties like social democrats, socialists, communists are on the left... liberals fight with social democrats, communists and socialists because liberals want everything privatized while social democrats, socialists and communists want to nationalize... they work with conservatives to achieve this because they are very close to each other on economic policies... they also want less government intervention in peoples personal lives... meanwhile left wing parties that are socialists and social democrats and communists want to increase intervention in peoples personal lives...

Parties key word there in other words Politics, which has nothing to do with the term or ideology, Liberal is Left. Just as Nationalism is Right, doesn't mean a party might not include either one or maybe even both.

[Doctor Amadeus]

liberals are literally right wing...



they're just not as rightwing as conservatives, fascists, or monarchists...

and no, socialism isn't a liberal stance... liberalism is about privatization, to reduce government intervention the personal lives... socialism is the opposite of that... they are not compatible...

Not AS right wing, again you are referring to a party Liberal is left, it has always been left, doesn't matter what class you take in any accredited class in the world, none would frame Liberal and anything but left, unless they were a crackpot.

Now if you are sincerely trying to argue, and I am sure you might, that Classic liberalism and current liberalism of today based on this argument you are making about parties, well I GUESS!

There are plenty of people in that wheelhouse that would and could argue that with you, but none and I do literally mean almost none as I have explained would call liberalism right.

As for the rest of your post Socialism is an economic policy along with broad terms of ideology such as Liberal, Socialism goes directly to economics.


Liberalism isn't specifically about privatization, it COULD depending on the context, because Liberalism is also tied to unions.


Using myself as an example, I am an Authoritarian, however I am a rare liberal, and some could argue not at all because Authoritarian is Right, but regardless to whether i am really a liberal by everyone's perspective, or your are or even the Swedish Liberal Party.


None of that has to do with what liberalism is, and the definition of the word and it's place along the political spectrum doesn't change, even if a POLITICAL PARTYdoes.


You are wrong on this, and I completely understand your argument, but you are arguing from a dubious position.


Keep in mind you are 100% Correct in saying the Swedish Liberals are not Left, hell you could even say Democrats aren't which would or could be true because by my own account I am well aware Democrats here have not always been left or liberal at all.


But never the less ideology is the ideology, so if you want to say Swedish Liberals and Democrats are not left, I wouldn't say I would agree, especially about Sweden because I don't live there and know.

But you wouldn't be wrong, because that is a matter of opinion based on your perspective.

[Shadowferal]

The definitions of right wing and left wing seem to differ depending on country.
Here in the US, right-wing corresponds with nationalism/racism, tends to be corporatist, more personally restrictive yet less restrictive in regards to business regulations, usually ending in totalitarianism, ergo a fascist state.