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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by Clickbait Mick View Post
    What exactly is so spectacular about Mechagon to you that it's so amazing compared to the rest?

    It's a fucking tiny zone with 3 rotating world quests, a few boring daily slogs per day, and a bunch of rare spawns.
    This is amazing to you? Why are people so in love with camping rares for low drop-rate pets or mounts?
    I too want to know the answer to this question.

    Mechagon is exactly the same as every other "patch zone" they've put out. It's just not as linear or locked down.

    It's just rotating rares, events and chests. Just like every other fucking zone. It's literally a cut and paste from the modern WoW design book with a different coat of paint.

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Kailith View Post
    This is defiantly not the worst last patch... others have left us with nothing but a crappy raid to do and nothing else. and yes I'm referring to Dragon Soul. Like 8 boring bosses for the most part and somehow messed up not only a fight while you were on the back of a dragon, but also a possessed giant dragon carcass sticking out of the Maelstrom. This one at least you've got some things to do after. And Dragon Soul still makes me sad, because I had thought it was a pretty good expansion up until that point.
    cata could have been amazing if they delayed it until it was done,there was crazy ammounts of cunt content,mostly cause of the revamp,you can youtube around for a panel that was talking about cata plans,its crazy how much they wanted to do and ended up with half or less

  3. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by Kailith View Post
    This is defiantly not the worst last patch... others have left us with nothing but a crappy raid to do and nothing else. and yes I'm referring to Dragon Soul. Like 8 boring bosses for the most part and somehow messed up not only a fight while you were on the back of a dragon, but also a possessed giant dragon carcass sticking out of the Maelstrom. This one at least you've got some things to do after. And Dragon Soul still makes me sad, because I had thought it was a pretty good expansion up until that point.
    Sorry. But what exactly is this patch giving you other than the raid?

    There is no new zone. No new dungeon. No new type of world content. Nothing.

    They recycled two zones. Shoved rares, chests and WQs/dailies in them and called it a day.

    The Visions became uninteresting after the 5th run IMO. I mean I wanted to strive for the 5 mask but there was no cool reward anyway. Just 5 shitty recoloured masks and an achievement.

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    Woah dude, timeless isle fun? Replicate model?
    Mechagon was 10000x better, no need to replicate something boring and grindy just for sake of grind.
    Hell, even nazjatar was better.

    And mop in general was worse than BfA.
    mop is in most peoples top 3 expansions lol,for some its even a top 2

  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clickbait Mick View Post
    Dragon Soul was a better raid than Nya'lotha.

    People have an irrational hateboner for Cataclysm, I swear. The expansion really wasn't that bad compared to WoD and BfA.
    Reused zones with a couple of new models, and first 6 fights we're bland and boring, I don't hate cata, just DS.
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    Lol not even close...
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  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    Transmog added a ton of replayability to old content and is generally seen one of the best features added to the game.
    Also, the 5man dungeons weren't useless, they were catchup for players.
    But transmog didn't add replayability on the spot. I can only talk for myself, but I didn't grind out old instances back then, I mainly farmed one set of gear for like two or three weeks and was done.
    Also catchup mechanics are nice, but still, they don't carry a patch. I raided firelands just before it came out and had no reason to enter the dungeons besides the lore.
    8.3 came out January 14, I'm still doing my visions and assaults on my main.
    When 4.3 was 3 months old I didn't do anything related to the patch in the game.

  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by Depakote View Post
    mythic didn't exist then. Try harder.
    Actually it did exist then, it was just called Heroic, but Cata Heroic was the same as BFA Mythic. At the end of MoP they changed all the names so they didn't have to call the new difficulty Flex.

    Heroic -> Mythic
    Normal -> Heroic
    Flex (Introduced in MoP) -> Normal

    Nice try ignoring my reply and than picking the one 1 small thing that could be wrong in my post to reply to.

  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuli View Post
    But transmog didn't add replayability on the spot.
    ...but it did?
    Like, how much you got out of that system is up to you, i just ran each dungeon with a set just to have that set completed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuli View Post
    Also catchup mechanics are nice, but still, they don't carry a patch. I raided firelands just before it came out and had no reason to enter the dungeons besides the lore.
    8.3 came out January 14, I'm still doing my visions and assaults on my main.
    When 4.3 was 3 months old I didn't do anything related to the patch in the game.
    Anecdotal, i like visions but being forced to do them ~20 times in order to upgrade my cloak to max any character but my main won't happen, ignoring that i have to do Assaults in order to enter them in the first place.
    Last edited by Kralljin; 2020-03-23 at 12:18 AM.

  10. #190
    Lol, alright mate...

    DS wasn't that bad... that's some serious rose-tinted glasses.

    Whilst HFC was a good raid, 6.2 was smoking hot garbage.

  11. #191
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    ...but it did?
    Like, how much you got out of that system is up to you, i just ran each dungeon with a set just to have that set completed.



    Anecdotal, i like visions but being forced to do them ~20 times in order to upgrade my cloak to max any character but my main won't happen, ignoring that i have to do Assaults in order to enter them in the first place.
    Yes, you could grind out every single dungeon to get every piece of gear, but you could also use the Selfie Cam to the same extent. That's pretty much a knockout argument against any patch without a long-lasting gameplay mechanic.
    If we're counting stuff like this as infinite replayability then even the Selfie Patch had more replayablity than some expansion releases.

  12. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuli View Post
    Yes, you could grind out every single dungeon to get every piece of gear, but you could also use the Selfie Cam to the same extent. That's pretty much a knockout argument against any patch without a long-lasting gameplay mechanic.
    Comparing visual progression with the selfie cam.

    ...yeah, that's going nowhere.

  13. #193
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    Cata's End Patch... I can't tell you how damn bad that time in the game was

    The ONLY thing you had was the new 'transmog' released and it was just hot garbage otherwise

    The game was unbalanced, pve was hot fucken garbage (LFR was one of the worst things that blizz ever did to WoW), and it LITERALLY WENT ON FOR FLIPPIN AGES - I remember the patch being so long that devs AT BLIZZARD actually died during that time period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungo View Post
    Is this the worst final patch of all time? 3.3, 5.4 and 7.3 were so much better it's not even funny.

    Even Dragon Soul wasn't this bad, nor was Hellfire. At least their raids were amazing.
    man thats a big 0/10 effort bait. no one in their right mind enjoyed dragon soul for over a year.

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  15. #195
    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    mop is in most peoples top 3 expansions lol,for some its even a top 2
    No, most people hate MoP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clickbait Mick View Post
    What exactly is so spectacular about Mechagon to you that it's so amazing compared to the rest?

    It's a fucking tiny zone with 3 rotating world quests, a few boring daily slogs per day, and a bunch of rare spawns.
    This is amazing to you? Why are people so in love with camping rares for low drop-rate pets or mounts?
    Tons of craftable devices, anti gravity backpack which as goddamn cool, custimizable trinket, mecha theme. Yes I fucking love that design of rares mechagon had, never camped any, still got meta achievement, and THE best mount in a game.

    Mecha enemies that had cool skills instead of big smash shit we've had before. And the best dungeon in a game.
    Holy shit I had more fun in mechagon doing meta-achievement and in dungeon doing hertz locker than probably all the zones of wow combined.

    Last boss on mechagon in hardmode was better than any other dungeon boss by so much it looks like a pure diamond sitting on a tons of crap.

  16. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by Polarthief View Post
    Edited the post because BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    100% troll detected. You *MUST* be trolling, there's no way. This *patch* sucks ass, probably the worst final patch (besides visions), but to say Dragon Soul was "amazing" means you're either trolling or never did it. DS is a bug-riddled, reused-asset, MESS. That raid was ABYSMAL.

    Did you also forget the Annual Pass where Blizz locked people into paying for that garbage for a year to get Diablo 3 (one of the worst games ever at launch) for free? Good lord man.



    Cata was a great expansion that was hardcore carried by its launch and just kept getting worse with each patch. I will agree that, *overall*, it was definitely better than MoP and WoD (and obviously BfA), but Dragon Soul is one of, if not, *the* worst raid in the game. It had ONE good boss (Yor'sahj) and seven trash bosses that were buggy, stupid, or just flat out boring as hell.

    DS wasnt all that buggy as I recall.
    Assets were all 100% recycled, yea, but a lot of the mechanics were pretty fun imo.

    And as someone who bought the charger, 100% was not upset. D3 was good. I chalk up all the complaints to people wishing it were just D2.

  17. #197
    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    Tons of craftable devices, anti gravity backpack which as goddamn cool, custimizable trinket, mecha theme. Yes I fucking love that design of rares mechagon had, never camped any, still got meta achievement, and THE best mount in a game.

    Mecha enemies that had cool skills instead of big smash shit we've had before. And the best dungeon in a game.
    Holy shit I had more fun in mechagon doing meta-achievement and in dungeon doing hertz locker than probably all the zones of wow combined.

    Last boss on mechagon in hardmode was better than any other dungeon boss by so much it looks like a pure diamond sitting on a tons of crap.
    Which mount are you talking about? Sounds like you mostly had fun in the dungeon, which is fair, as it's a good one. But my experience was different, I came in late in 8.3 and mostly just did the braindead dailies and main WQ and opening quest-line and now I'm nearly exalted, and I don't feel like anything there really stimulated me. Maybe it was better when the content was current.

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    I am not a simpleton with a fickle memory, I remember Dragon Soul and 6.2 just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clickbait Mick View Post
    Which mount are you talking about? Sounds like you mostly had fun in the dungeon, which is fair, as it's a good one. But my experience was different, I came in late in 8.3 and mostly just did the braindead dailies and main WQ and opening quest-line and now I'm nearly exalted, and I don't feel like anything there really stimulated me. Maybe it was better when the content was current.
    monocycle, and no, both zone and dungeon. Literally the best zone ever created and best dungeon ever created by large margin. No other zone and no other dungeon can ever hope to begin to imagine being even remotely as good as mechagon.

  20. #200
    Quote Originally Posted by dacoolist View Post
    Cata's End Patch... I can't tell you how damn bad that time in the game was

    The ONLY thing you had was the new 'transmog' released and it was just hot garbage otherwise

    The game was unbalanced, pve was hot fucken garbage (LFR was one of the worst things that blizz ever did to WoW), and it LITERALLY WENT ON FOR FLIPPIN AGES - I remember the patch being so long that devs AT BLIZZARD actually died during that time period.
    Completely forgetting the fact that if we didn't get LFR the raiding department would've kept getting slashed like it did all through Cata and we never would've gotten large, encompassing raids again. Likely we'd keep getting ToC type things over and over.

    Also forgetting that Wrath's, MoP's, and WoD had longer lasting last tiers than Cata.
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