Page 1 of 4
1
2
3
... LastLast
  1. #1
    Stood in the Fire Agent Smith's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Heart O' The City
    Posts
    456

    Company fires staff and kicks them out of accommodation


  2. #2
    Welp, looks like we've found the scummiest person of the Coronavirus outbreak.

  3. #3
    Privatise the gains, socialise the losses.

  4. #4
    seems pretty normal .

    there will be milions of people fired in each country because of the hit market will take.

    or people thought that this couple of weeks of break in functioning of many companies are just extra vacation time ?

  5. #5
    It's a bit shitty that he's been booted out, but that seems like his accommodations were a part of his employment. Other than that, this is pretty standard, and you are going to see millions of people losing jobs in the coming months.

  6. #6
    Acommodations with work isn't a permanent residency...

    A company can't be expected to keep employees at a lose, they got their own self interests to protect their future... and are not a charity.

    It's a shit situation but that's the reality of it. They could've found alternatives though... such as making them a tenant to pay for stay.

    But I am pretty sure the Government will impose a law during this outbreak and self isolation to not allow tenants to be evicted for 3 months (that's in effect now here in Ireland [along with mortgage and loan freeze], though I'd imagine some scrotes of society will abuse this to great effect).
    Last edited by Daedius; 2020-03-20 at 10:56 AM.

  7. #7
    Merely a Setback Sunseeker's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    In the state of Denial.
    Posts
    27,128
    Gonna be a whole lot of this happening real fast.
    Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.

    Just, be kind.

  8. #8
    Banned JohnBrown1917's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Обединени социалистически щати на Америка
    Posts
    28,394
    Good ol' capitalism at work.

  9. #9
    Not exactly surprising, if I'm honest...

  10. #10
    Shitty move but some of these places depending are being heavily effected by this, all service industries in pretty much every country. In Canada at least they have no questions asked EI application until like the end of may which might be extended.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    Gonna be a whole lot of this happening real fast.
    Yep and even middle and upper middle class will be brought down by this, especially in the US. The rich will still be rich and everyone else is about to get a whole lot poorer.

  11. #11
    Stealthed Defender unbound's Avatar
    7+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    All that moves is easily heard in the void.
    Posts
    6,798
    Quote Originally Posted by Dsonsion View Post
    Privatise the gains, socialise the losses.
    Always this. I guarantee that the top level executives of these companies will be getting some nice bonuses because they fired people rapidly.

    There is a reason people who work for corporations are called resources.

  12. #12
    Merely a Setback Sunseeker's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    In the state of Denial.
    Posts
    27,128
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    Yep and even middle and upper middle class will be brought down by this, especially in the US. The rich will still be rich and everyone else is about to get a whole lot poorer.
    Which is why this whole "required to let them take XYZ sick leave" is pointless, companies will just preemptively fire or "lay off" people so they don't have to deal with it at all. I mean, an unemployed person doesn't get sick leave!
    Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.

    Just, be kind.

  13. #13
    Void Lord Doctor Amadeus's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    In Security Watching...
    Posts
    43,753
    Well that's business, it's not a charity, this is obviously completely terrible, but if they can't afford the workers it's better than keeping them on and having their checks bounce.

    I have seen that happen too, not good, sometimes you have to cut the strings let these people get a heads up.
    Milli Vanilli, Bigger than Elvis

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    Which is why this whole "required to let them take XYZ sick leave" is pointless, companies will just preemptively fire or "lay off" people so they don't have to deal with it at all. I mean, an unemployed person doesn't get sick leave!
    They do get money though, and right now as far as I know EI in Canada is your full pay until further notice not 55% of your gross with a cap (the cap is different for each province normally). Also it is 40 weeks if you hit your hours (which is easy) and 15 weeks sick on top of that if you are effected directly by the sickness.

    Some countries don't hate their people, the US sure seems to though. That defense budget has more than enough money to help the american people.

  15. #15
    The Insane Acidbaron's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Belgium, Flanders
    Posts
    18,230
    Damn no worker rights?

    Also what kind of autograph is that, it's just a single curved line :/

  16. #16
    I'm fine with that. Well, fine is maybe not the best term for it. Rather, I can understand the company.

    What alternatives do they even have? Continue employing people and go entirely bankrupt in two months?

    My wife's company reduced everyone's working weeks to 3 days, and cut salaries across ALL positions accordingly in order to remain financially safe for 6 more months without having to lay off personell. However, they will be running on losses for the foreseeable future because they lost their income at the moment. She's an architect and all construction sites are closed until further notice.

  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by StayTuned View Post
    I'm fine with that. Well, fine is maybe not the best term for it. Rather, I can understand the company.

    What alternatives do they even have? Continue employing people and go entirely bankrupt in two months?

    My wife's company reduced everyone's working weeks to 3 days, and cut salaries across ALL positions accordingly in order to remain financially safe for 6 more months without having to lay off personell. However, they will be running on losses for the foreseeable future because they lost their income at the moment. She's an architect and all construction sites are closed until further notice.
    I would argue that kicking them out was beyond the pale. It's not like having staff rooms emptied really saves a shit ton of money.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

  18. #18
    If you're not generating revenue you might not be able to pay for employees, shit happens. Better to be fired, at least you get unemployment.

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I would argue that kicking them out was beyond the pale. It's not like having staff rooms emptied really saves a shit ton of money.
    Depends. If the rooms are tied to employment, which apparently they are, then it's probably also a question of insurance etc. A contract is a contract.

    If it was me, I would have offered the ex employee to pay rent and remain in the premise.

    We also don't know the overall financial situation of the hotel in question. If they've been financially unstable before corona, every penny helps. Look, I'm one of the first people to jump to the defense of employees. However, were in a situation where we will have literally whole industry sectors going bankrupt if we're not careful.

    So, it's either fire people, or sink the whole ship. We need to protect SMEs so that when everything is over, they're still here to re-hire people.

  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by StayTuned View Post
    Depends. If the rooms are tied to employment, which apparently they are, then it's probably also a question of insurance etc. A contract is a contract.
    This is one of those things, a global pandemic, where you should be thinking bigger than "insurance." You don't want people wandering homeless. I get it, stop their wages. Kicking them out makes the entire situation worse for everyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •