GPU underpowered??

[residentisz]

So, I use Webroot Secure Anywhere and when I run "System Analyzer" I get this report:



anyone know why it lists my GPU as "underpowered"?? does that mean I need a new GPU?

Here are my PC specs

GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 GTX1060-O6G-9GBPS 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready Video Card
MSI B350 TOMAHAWK AM4 AMD B350 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core 3.2GHz Socket AM4, Retail
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G1 120-G1-0750-XR 80+ GOLD 750W Fully Modular Includes FREE Power On Self Tester Power Supply
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Desktop Memory Model F4-3000C15D-16GVS


This PC was built in 2017.

thanks in advance <3

[lockblock]

Any software that claims a Gtx 1060 is underpowered is full of crap. Uninstall that junk software or ignore it.

[Temp name]

It claims it's underpowered because your CPU can, with a better GPU, push out more frames, meaning you're bottlenecked, in a sense. That said, if you get the advertised performance and you don't need more (so you're happy at 1080p 60fps) then there's no reason at all to upgrade.

[Jigga93]

What are you trying to do with your system? sure your not gonna get 1440p 144 but there isnt anything wrong with that little system.

[Thunderball]

It claims it's underpowered because your CPU can, with a better GPU, push out more frames, meaning you're bottlenecked, in a sense. That said, if you get the advertised performance and you don't need more (so you're happy at 1080p 60fps) then there's no reason at all to upgrade.

It cannot. Unless we're talking about something else other than 1080p.

[Temp name]

It cannot. Unless we're talking about something else other than 1080p.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_page...review,18.html
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_page...review,17.html

A 1600 with a 1080 can push out more fps than a 5960x with a 1060.

Which means that a 1600 can do more fps than a 1060 lets it do.

[Thunderball]

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_page...review,18.html
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_page...review,17.html

A 1600 with a 1080 can push out more fps than a 5960x with a 1060.

Which means that a 1600 can do more fps than a 1060 lets it do.

Max settings, decently optimized DX12 game. Both CPUs underloaded, GPU bottlenecked. The only thing this proves is that 1080 is better than a 1060.

[Temp name]

Max settings, decently optimized DX12 game. Both CPUs underloaded, GPU bottlenecked. The only thing this proves is that 1080 is better than a 1060.

I mean.. Yeah.. But it also means that an R5 1600 can put out more fps than the 1060 can deal with. If it couldn't, then there would be no uptick in FPS no matter what GPU you paired it with.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/images/m...-mll-1080p.png
https://www.gamersnexus.net/images/m...-benchmark.png

Again, a 1600(x in this case), or even the 1500x with a good GPU can out perform a 1060 with a good CPU.

If you wanna keep this up, feel free to actually try and make a point.

[Thunderball]

I mean.. Yeah.. But it also means that an R5 1600 can put out more fps than the 1060 can deal with. If it couldn't, then there would be no uptick in FPS no matter what GPU you paired it with.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/images/m...-mll-1080p.png
https://www.gamersnexus.net/images/m...-benchmark.png

Again, a 1600(x in this case), or even the 1500x with a good GPU can out perform a 1060 with a good CPU.

If you wanna keep this up, feel free to actually try and make a point.

Yea, in well optimized games. I've said it before and I will keep hammering it home: these are not the games people build their systems for, still even in 2020. People still mostly play CS, Fortnite, Dota2, LoL, CoD - all the games that only care about single thread performance. Ryzen 1xxx and 2xxx are not build for that. That doesnt mean that they're bad CPUs, especially considering the price but can please people stop pretending that it's good for stuff that it's not good for? In this case: high fps in "esports" titles.

You can keep linking the benchmarks but reality of the fact is that no reviewer cares about titles most gamers actually care about, simply because it's not interesting for them, same as the games that are good benchmarks are usually not very popular. Think about it - if OP really lacked performance from his PC he wouldnt make a thread like this, he would be asking which GPU to buy.

[Temp name]

Yea, in well optimized games. I've said it before and I will keep hammering it home: these are not the games people build their systems for, still even in 2020. People still mostly play CS, Fortnite, Dota2, LoL, CoD - all the games that only care about single thread performance. Ryzen 1xxx and 2xxx are not build for that. That doesnt mean that they're bad CPUs, especially considering the price but can please people stop pretending that it's good for stuff that it's not good for? In this case: high fps in "esports" titles.

You can keep linking the benchmarks but reality of the fact is that no reviewer cares about titles most gamers actually care about, simply because it's not interesting for them, same as the games that are good benchmarks are usually not very popular. Think about it - if OP really lacked performance from his PC he wouldnt make a thread like this, he would be asking which GPU to buy.

Yeah, but I'm just making the point that the CPU can drive a more powerful card. That's why OP is getting the result that his GPU is underpowered.

[Daywalk3r]

Still the first gen Ryzen is the limiting factor in WoW.
It's IPC is very low compared to a Zen2 Ryzen 3000 or anything from Intel since the 3rd gen.

[Thunderball]

Yeah, but I'm just making the point that the CPU can drive a more powerful card. That's why OP is getting the result that his GPU is underpowered.

It can, under certain condition, which should be ignored in 2020. There are still cheaper ways of getting a 6 core CPU than a R5 1600.

[Temp name]

It can, under certain condition, which should be ignored in 2020. There are still cheaper ways of getting a 6 core CPU than a R5 1600.

I mean, of course there are. But I'm just saying (probably) why that program is giving OP the result it is.

[Thunderball]

I mean, of course there are. But I'm just saying (probably) why that program is giving OP the result it is.

Probably, fair point.

[Aleksej89]

Gtx 1060 is an "old" entry level GPU for 1080p gaming at 60FPS.
Usually you can forget about using good antialiasing and some similar options if you want stable 60FPS.

It is imho proper to call it underpowered because the one weaker than it (gtx 1050) i would not even call a gaming gpu.
So gtx 1060 is the weakest entry level GPU (of its series) for what you could consider standard 1080p 60FPS gaming (dota, league legends...).

[Daywalk3r]

Gtx 1060 is an "old" entry level GPU for 1080p gaming at 60FPS.
Usually you can forget about using good antialiasing and some similar options if you want stable 60FPS.

It is imho proper to call it underpowered because the one weaker than it (gtx 1050) i would not even call a gaming gpu.
So gtx 1060 is the weakest entry level GPU (of its series) for what you could consider standard 1080p 60FPS gaming (dota, league legends...).

When the GTX 1060 released, it was not entry level. 1050 was entry level gaming.
Now with the RTX and RTX Super on the market, obviously it is rather slow in comparison.
Still, it runs games like Doom Eternal at 60+ FPS avg (1080P / ultra with TAA antialiasing, the best implementation on the market btw).

https://www.techspot.com/article/199...al-benchmarks/

The games you named like LoL and DOTA2 even run at 60 FPS on an integrated GPU like the Vega8. The 1060 runs them at avg 180 (LoL) / 120 (DOTA2).

[c0rnel]

I googled it and found this on a webroot community forum site:


As to the result reagarding underpowered graphics card, there is no need to worry. That is a very common result, and it only means that your video is not top of the line, and so you may have issues playing the very latest greatest graphic intense games.


In short, it doesn't mean it's bad or not getting enough juice. Just not top of the line.