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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungo View Post
    Why is no one hyped for Shadowlands? Most expansions are normally talked to death before they come out but Shadowlands seems to be the exception.

    There's so few videos about it.
    There's such little online discussion about it.
    There are next to ZERO Blueposts about the expansion.
    Even on these forums, you can tell discussion is at an all time low. At this rate, Shadowlands will be BfA 3.0, just as Bellular predicted.


    Was it how it was marketed? Was it Sylvanas? Why is it taking so long to see an alpha or beta? Maybe Blizzard is keeping it under wraps for now because they have some huge, exciting announcements for it.. ? (Doubt it.)
    1. People say it is not hyped every expansion (except WoD but we saw how that went)
    2. WoW playerbase becomes smaller and smaller, chances are that many dont give a flying fuck anymore.
    3. what is there to be excited about? It's basically a big patch. expansions haven't given us anything really worth hyping for since what? Cataclysm? MoP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZazuuPriest View Post
    Shadowlands brings nothing of note to the table, there is no hype because there should be no hype
    This. I am amazed that Blizzard even still dares to release expansions with no actual worthy content, this is like 3rd expansion in a row.
    I wonder how much subs WoW has left at this point, wouldn't be surprised if its globally around 2M. Max.
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    Goddamn it, Gimlix, why do you keep making these threads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post

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    "Many fired/replaced"
    Uhh what? who were fired/replaced?
    Almost exactly a year ago, Blizzard/Activision fired 800 employees.. (I know most of these were not from development, but still)

    Also keep in mind how many big personalities the company lost the last couple of years. Frank Pearce (Who worked on most expansions after Vanilla), Chris Metzen, Mike Morhaime. All that gotta take its toll on a company.

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    Zero trust to Blizzard until product is finished.

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    Wanna know why there's no hype?
    Carol fuckin' Baskin.
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    Proof that the mmochamp community can be a bitter and lonely place. What a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    1) In the original lore, Kil'jaedan and the Nathrezim personally created both items. There was NEVER mention of the Shadowlands.

    2) There are numerous quests where you go to the Shadowlands, one such example being the original DK starter area. It was also established that whenever you were corpse running, you were in the Shadowlands. They're retconning all of that for this dumpster fire of an exapansion.

    3) That is absolutely NOT what the lore was. Did you even do the Vol'jin questline? It's said that Sylvanas raising someone traps the soul in the body and doesn't it allow it to move on which was upsetting the balance. It's why Bwonsamdi asked Tal'anji to kill her in return for getting rid of her father's deal.

    4) Your comment about the Helm is literally the recent retconned lore.

    5) It was confirmed in a recent Blizzard interview where apparently the Lich King was meant to be put in place to prevent the Jailer from becoming too powerful. Which is a gigantic retcon.
    1) there was mention of it being from the power of the nathrezim, which at the time it was a mystery where it came from, other then "Some vampiric realm"

    2) Yes, but there is many realms to the shadowlands, again, the area we are going to is not azeroth, its other realms

    3) yes i literally just said that, sylvanas is stopping them before it can get to the others, that is literally what she is doing, she is raising the dead before they can be sent to where they belong, but he raising stuff has nothing to do with the shadowlands and the maw.

    4) no, no it is not. The helmet has always been a tool for controlling the dead, so where do you think it got that power. ADDDING stuff to which was not explained before is not retconning, it is ADDING story.

    Me: "I got a car"
    You: "cool"
    Me: "Yeah it is a honda"
    You: "why the fuck did you lie to me?"
    Me: "I didnt"
    You: "Yes you did, you said you bought a car, but then suddenly changed it into a honda, wow what a fucking liar dont retcon"
    Literally what you are saying.

    5) then link that, cause that sounds sorta made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by This One Time At Bandcamp View Post
    Almost exactly a year ago, Blizzard/Activision fired 800 employees.. (I know most of these were not from development, but still)

    Also keep in mind how many big personalities the company lost the last couple of years. Frank Pearce (Who worked on most expansions after Vanilla), Chris Metzen, Mike Morhaime. All that gotta take its toll on a company.
    ALRIGHT let me fill you in, as obviously you didnt do your research.

    activision blizzard fired 800 people.
    only 137 of these people were blizzard.
    NONE OF THESE PEOPLE were from development
    11 of them were QA (Quality assurance)
    The rest were stuff to do with the recent heroes of the storm losing its esports (which meant removing a bunch of staff that were no longer needed.)

    Not a single developer was fired, and since then they have constantly been hiring new developers.

    If you are using that as an example, shall we go back to 2012 when blizzard, not activision/blizzard, fired 600 staff, many of them being developers?

    Yes, people retire/move on after decades in the same company, and no, 1 or 2 people is not gunna "Take a big toll" Chris isnt even gone, he has just retired, but he is still working with blizzard, just after more then 2 decades, the dude wants a break, idk if you know but he was in the hospital for a super long time my dude, he deserves one.
    Especially since frank still works at blizz... he is just an advisor now.
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  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Dungo View Post
    Why is no one hyped for Shadowlands? Most expansions are normally talked to death before they come out but Shadowlands seems to be the exception.

    There's so few videos about it.
    There's such little online discussion about it.
    There are next to ZERO Blueposts about the expansion.
    Even on these forums, you can tell discussion is at an all time low. At this rate, Shadowlands will be BfA 3.0, just as Bellular predicted.


    Was it how it was marketed? Was it Sylvanas? Why is it taking so long to see an alpha or beta? Maybe Blizzard is keeping it under wraps for now because they have some huge, exciting announcements for it.. ? (Doubt it.)
    I'm super hyped, so there goes your thread.

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    First Expansion I might sit out. The trailer at Blizzcon was very nice, but offered very little for me in terms of hype or interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainV View Post

    Blizzard cant focus on what matters, story, less raids, more story, more deeper elements of that story with larger zones that focus on world building and saga expanding as opposed to endless 4 tier raids that become stale after the first 2 difficulties with only a vocal minority even caring to touch mythic or finish it.
    Blizzard cant focus on what matters to YOU. Many, many people dont give 2 shits about the lore or overall story in the game, they just want a game that is fun to play. Quit acting like everyone shares the same opinions as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulSoBreezy View Post
    I'm super hyped, so there goes your thread.
    oh hi, spirit be windy, how you doing?

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    Once we have more news, there will be more hype.

  11. #151
    im very, very excited for shadowlands

  12. #152
    No new class, no new race, no new features, there's nothing to be excited about except lore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neklord View Post
    No new class, no new race, no new features, there's nothing to be excited about except lore.
    No new class- i rather no new class, then a new class and shitty current classes
    no new race- ok? we literally fuckign just got 10 races
    no new features- now that, that is a fucking lie. try again.

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Dungo View Post
    Why is no one hyped for Shadowlands? Most expansions are normally talked to death before they come out but Shadowlands seems to be the exception.

    There's so few videos about it.
    There's such little online discussion about it.
    There are next to ZERO Blueposts about the expansion.
    Even on these forums, you can tell discussion is at an all time low. At this rate, Shadowlands will be BfA 3.0, just as Bellular predicted.


    Was it how it was marketed? Was it Sylvanas? Why is it taking so long to see an alpha or beta? Maybe Blizzard is keeping it under wraps for now because they have some huge, exciting announcements for it.. ? (Doubt it.)
    There is so little to talk about and what we could talk about is nothing exciting or new .
    Glorified reputation grinds YAHOOOO , and the bastard child of Horrific Visions and Proving grounds , YIPPIE . End of content.

    The only reasonable thing to be hyped about is the removal of AP progression , but even then they have to give us more information about anima and why we would want to care about the new covenants , besides the obviously reproposed timegated campaigns
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    Quote Originally Posted by valax View Post
    There is so little to talk about and what we could talk about is nothing exciting or new .
    Glorified reputation grinds YAHOOOO , and the bastard child of Horrific Visions and Proving grounds , YIPPIE . End of content.
    So question, what new content did tbc add?
    What new content did wotlk add?
    What new content did cataclysm add?
    What new content did mop add?

    Cause im sure most if not all of these expacs could be simplified to 0 or 1 new things, by oversimplifying the same way you just did.

  16. #156
    Need some better information before any sort of hype can be generated. What we have so far is pretty much nothing.

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    I find it fascinating that no new class or race is seemingly the only dividing line between a "bare-bones" expansion and... Whatever the opposite of that is.

    WoD didn't introduce a new class or race because they revamped character models, animations, class design and abilities. It was a major overhaul that I'd imagine took a lot more time and resources to do than design one or two new races or a class.

    As for SL, I am optimistic in that I think they really want to get this one right. They're hopefully putting the extra time into it to make a good expansion, which I can only imagine is absolutely infuriating the quantity-over-quality bois over at Activision. Which I find to be an exciting prospect, of course, because Activision sucks.

    Also, like other people have said: the 'rona.
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  18. #158
    I am pretty hyped for shadow lands, like people say we are still in the dark about alot but once more becomes available im sure the forums will spark a good few discussions

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    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    You watch. This thread will go 50 pages. Especially when someone mentions that the reason why we have heard nothing is because it has been delayed till 2021.

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    What do U think tbc is? The reason why tbc is being mentioned is because classic is dead.
    There are literally queues to the most popular servers and pretty much all are very well populated. Like..... Do you really believe that your self? :P

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    it's funny that 10 allied races was not "content" but no new race for SL is "no feature"
    also we have enough classes, I'd rather have some unprunning and balancing that some shiny new classe for eddy people or played by only a very small % of players

    covenant seem a more streamlined version of domain/table/bodyguard
    and torghast is a dungeon you don't need "rush rush RUUUUSSSHH!!11!!1!" people to do, I like taking my time thx very much
    and I'd rather no new "feature" than the abyssimal island expedition of warfront

    I remember dinging 120 and always finding more quests to do, some zone stories very interesting, and I hope each SL zone & covenant can have some deep stories like drustvar or suramar, & the legion domains combined

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