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    After imposing a VTOL, guess which mysterious corps decide to ''streamline'' ?

    https://news.usni.org/2020/03/23/new...ittoral-forces

    TLDR : after imposing the F-35 airframe as they wanted a VTOL, the Marines….now does not want VTOLs anymore (guess the Osprey is going down too...i mean not like usually…)

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    Osprey isn't going to be going anywhere. The Navy already chose it for their Greyhound replacement.

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    TLDR: Sarah didn't read the article.

    The service will also trim its F-35B and C Joint Strike Fighter squadrons, reducing them from 16 Primary Aircraft Authorized (PAA) to 10 per squadron.
    I'm no mathematician...but while 10 per squadron is certainly less than 16 per squadron....it still seems like a lot more than 0 per squadron.

    Also, this is trimming is set to conclude by 2030...so it's not like they're just straight up dumping anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    TLDR: Sarah didn't read the article.



    I'm no mathematician...but while 10 per squadron is certainly less than 16 per squadron....it still seems like a lot more than 0 per squadron.

    Also, this is trimming is set to conclude by 2030...so it's not like they're just straight up dumping anything.
    16 to 10 means a reduction of a solid third, of a VTOL that was only there for the Marines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    16 to 10 means a reduction of a solid third, of a VTOL that was only there for the Marines.
    10 is still more than 0. You said they don’t want them any more. Sounds like they want them still, just not as many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    16 to 10 means a reduction of a solid third, of a VTOL that was only there for the Marines.
    But it still very much sounds like they want VTOLs as opposed to what you said in the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    16 to 10 means a reduction of a solid third, of a VTOL that was only there for the Marines.
    Again, not a mathematician...but that still leaves 2/3rds, right? And 2/3rds is still more than 0/3rds?

    And, again, it's a process that's going to be happening over the next 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    https://news.usni.org/2020/03/23/new...ittoral-forces

    TLDR : after imposing the F-35 airframe as they wanted a VTOL, the Marines….now does not want VTOLs anymore (guess the Osprey is going down too...i mean not like usually…)
    How did you get that take from that article?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    16 to 10 means a reduction of a solid third, of a VTOL that was only there for the Marines.
    So the F-35 VTOL will have served between 2016 and 2030. Groovy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    So the F-35 VTOL will have served between 2016 and 2030. Groovy.
    What that does even mean? I know you are well known here for pushing bullshit, but please do explain WTF is that you wrote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    What that does even mean? I know you are well known here for pushing bullshit, but please do explain WTF is that you wrote?
    The F-35 VTOL will not have been used long ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    16 to 10 means a reduction of a solid third, of a VTOL that was only there for the Marines.
    I am not, I repeat sure as shit not a fan of the F35, but the VTOL variant is also used by the Navy for Amphibious Landing Ships, of which they will build more while cutting back on fleet carriers.

    The VTOL variant also sells internationally as a Harrier replacement.

    The downsizing of the Marines with eliminating their armored units and reducing their flight wings is one of those things that happens every time there isn't a major conflict ongoing... Then it's all ramped back up as soon as we need them to invade some dustbowl again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    The F-35 VTOL will not have been used long ?
    What the fuck are you talking about? What do you mean by "will not have been used by long"? Words are not that hard, try to use them.

    I'll try to understand - are you implying that VTOL version wont be used pass 2030? In that case, where did you get this genius idea from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    So the F-35 VTOL will have served between 2016 and 2030. Groovy.
    It'll be down to 10 per squadron by 2030, which means the F-35's service life doesn't end in 2030.

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    I think we should apply this same "Logic" to all other headlines.

    Dow Jones drops 800 points
    Sarahtasher headline: All stocks now worthless!

    US Companies cut 27,000 jobs before the worst of the shutdowns
    Sarahtasher headline: Everyone in the US is fired!

    Coronavirus cases spike in Georgia
    Sarahtasher headline: Goodbye Georgia! All Georgians are now dead!


    I mean seriously, the difference between "We want less of X" and "We don't want any X" should be pretty obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    The F-35 VTOL will not have been used long ?
    Except for all the ones that will still be in use...sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    https://news.usni.org/2020/03/23/new...ittoral-forces

    TLDR : after imposing the F-35 airframe as they wanted a VTOL, the Marines….now does not want VTOLs anymore (guess the Osprey is going down too...i mean not like usually…)
    The USMC very much wants the F-35B still, just not in the same numbers as before (they never wanted the F-35C, but the Navy required them to get some). They are making cuts to pay for the pivot to a more littoral-centric force and away from the heavy force they have evolved into. That is why they are going to get rid of all of their tanks, most of their tube artillery, and other units that do not help them project power in the Pacific.
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