View Poll Results: How will BfA be remembered?

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  • WORST Expansion Ever!

    203 37.73%
  • Slightly better than WoD but STILL TERRIBLE

    191 35.50%
  • Neutral feeling, no one misses it or hates it

    112 20.82%
  • It was one of the BETTER expansions

    27 5.02%
  • BEST Expansion Ever!

    5 0.93%
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  1. #321
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    Quote Originally Posted by crusadernero View Post
    But man.. WoD? That xpac... Ok i'll give them the leveling. That part was nice. The rest? Horrendous piece of shite that should be pissed on, shat on, dunked with gasoline and put on fire.
    Arena was okay. Crafting was good, but Garrisons destroyed the gathering economy.

  2. #322
    Quote Originally Posted by crusadernero View Post
    This sums it up pretty good.

    For me BfA was decent enough. It wasnt GREAT overall, it wasnt terrible overall either. Lots of cool ideas and concepts but failed in execution.

    Generally the latest xpac of wow is always deemed shit. I remember back in the day people were shitting all over BC for X reasons. Then wotlk, then cata and so on.

    But man.. WoD? That xpac... Ok i'll give them the leveling. That part was nice. The rest? Horrendous piece of shite that should be pissed on, shat on, dunked with gasoline and put on fire.
    I think Garrisons would have been great if the gathering capabilities would have been toned down to a weekly basis, the mission table nerfed heavily and the world quest system would have been introduced in the same expansion.

    We would have had the beauty of garrisons and all their customization and the incentive to go outside as well.

    They wanted to escape the pandaria disaster as soon as possible, but they rushed it out half a year too soon...Executus.

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    As with all iterations (expansions) of wow there were som good and some bad things but as usual nothing that kept me from enjoying most of it.

    Good expansion overall, wish corruption would've been there from the start and perfected at the end of BFA to be used in a different, better form, in Shadowlands.

    The worst thing must've been the requirement to farm AP to unlock Azerite armour perks and how much timegating was used for things like Essences.

    I like the theme for Shadowlands way better and I'm more hyped about that expansion than I was with BFA.

    Overall: 7/10
    (which most expansions tend to end at, Blizzard is really good with most of the things they make, some hickups here and there obviously but they usually adjust those eventually)
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    Man even if Blizzard gave players bars of gold, they would complain that they were too heavy.

  4. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynzie View Post
    And this is also why BFA more likely has less active subs than WOD. To each their own but stats are more likely supporting the wod guys than the bfa ones.
    No, that has to do with game overall lifetime. Has nothing to do with expansions. Each new expansion will have even lower sub count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalisandra View Post
    Ah. I did not check every auction. Well, I stand corrected. However, as the only plate were gloves, the only mail were belts, and so on for leather and cloth, and the prices were astronomical, it's not something you can just go and do - either you pay good real money for enough tokens to cover the price (and on US servers we're talking 1-3 years of gametime in tokens for a good corruption), or your guild buys it for you (they must really love you!), or you have some millions in gold lying around. In any case, this is your main, you won't be gearing some alt this way, and in the latter case, it's a long-standing main, or your new main and you've been playing a good long while.

    In short, it's just not an option for most players.
    I recently sold infinite stars rank 3 offhand 475 for 1.2M gold. To get that amount of gold within a month you need to earn 40k each day. This is possible with boosts and playing AH.

    If you set your goal for 3months you only need to earn 13K a day which is possible with just professions such as alchemy and cooking. You literally buy mats on AH when they are cheap, checking on the undermine journal. Or grind it farming herbs/spare parts.

    Other corruptions are cheaper. Still, you have that option, which makes it pretty much non rng. And you didn't have that option with legiondaries because If I did. I would have used it.

    Or you just slip some real money and get it asap.

  5. #325
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Jackson View Post
    I think Garrisons would have been great if the gathering capabilities would have been toned down to a weekly basis, the mission table nerfed heavily and the world quest system would have been introduced in the same expansion.

    We would have had the beauty of garrisons and all their customization and the incentive to go outside as well.

    They wanted to escape the pandaria disaster as soon as possible, but they rushed it out half a year too soon...Executus.
    The garrison was rather cool, I liked that alot to in WoD. Sadly that was more or less all there was besides the usual dungeon, raids & bgs. Having a feature like garrison carry on into each xpac would be nice. Let us have a garrison outside SW/org and build on it.

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    BFA: Well...you tried.

  7. #327
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalisandra View Post
    Arena was okay. Crafting was good, but Garrisons destroyed the gathering economy.
    Agree. It was a bit to much on that part. They totally overdid several aspects with garrisons. But thats sort of how Blizzard does things. Come up with cool ideas & concepts and implement them poorly in the game. Either overdo or underdo it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    Once Shadowlands is out, it will be considered the best expansion while Shadowlands the worst.
    Cata and WoD beg to disagree with your witty comment
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    we created a story structure for Sylvanas that, on the surface, echoed many broad strokes of the road Garrosh took (...). These parallels were intentional. But it's within the nuance that we sought to show the story grow and change.
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    BFA was about as nuanced as a golf club to the testicles/ovaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crusadernero View Post
    The garrison was rather cool, I liked that alot to in WoD. Sadly that was more or less all there was besides the usual dungeon, raids & bgs. Having a feature like garrison carry on into each xpac would be nice. Let us have a garrison outside SW/org and build on it.
    I think if they would have added a danger risk/reward component to the garrisons it would have been stellar.

    For example, once a week your garisson gets attacked by NPCs.

    1. If you don't defend but build up automated AI defenses, you can for example gain x amount of ressources and save y amount of your weekly gatherables.

    2. If you defend it, you can actually queue for garisson defense, and it will place you in a random person's garisson (which counts as yours, since there's technically 1 commander in the lore), and once you beat it you get a lot more rewards, depending on difficulty.

    Now THAT would have been memorable.

  10. #330
    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    Classes were broken, items were broken (like assurance of consequence, Rune of Re-Origination), blizzard never bothered to fix that. Vengeance might have been good idea but it went pants on head retarded with tanks being top dpses.

    Disci priests were damn OP turning raiding into snoozefest for other healers. Affliction warlocks being unquestionable kings on sustaned AOE, bm hunters deleting people from arenas, retarded instagibb macros, full rotation macros, timeless isle being coin-farm, gigantic content draught at the end of SoO. Boring mobs farming for cloak. Farming frogs for coins. And a tons of bugs.

    It's not about "pandas" its about remembering how it was back then without rose tinted glasses.
    Do you even like mmos? Cause all that stuff you listed is what made it amazing. An mmo where nothing feels broken op is horrible boring. Right now in BFA its all proc broken, while in legion and mop you felt your class demolishing stuff.

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    I can stand a somewhat dull gameplay if the story is compelling enough, and the world feels like an actual world (e.g. Classic). Conversely, I can put up with some really crappy story if the gameplay is engaging enough (e.g. SL, so far). The biggest problem of BfA is that it failed at both; story was absolute trash and all my favourite specs (arcane, shadow, disc, prot pally) were strictly a downgrade from their Legion versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danuser
    we created a story structure for Sylvanas that, on the surface, echoed many broad strokes of the road Garrosh took (...). These parallels were intentional. But it's within the nuance that we sought to show the story grow and change.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thage View Post
    BFA was about as nuanced as a golf club to the testicles/ovaries.

  12. #332
    People will, like always with past expansions, remember it mostly for the good things. So in 2-4 years players will long for when BfA had actual faction war, with a faction war themed raid that we probably won't get again. And how we got to see Nazjatar which is unlike any zone. Players might also long for Corrupted gear, since most will only remember how fun it was to have insane DPS from infinite stars, or pulling insane numbers in M+ with twilight devastation.

    Besides, asking how it will be remembered now will always give biased answers, because we are currently in the most boring part of any expansion, when most of the enjoyment of the game comes from imagining the next one. So obviously you will not find many people who think positively of BfA all the time, and instead ruminates on the bad.

  13. #333
    As far as I can tell, WoD was largely hated due to the horrendous lack of content but the core gameplay remained solid enough, there just wasn't enough to do.

    BfA meanwhile managed to make a mess of pretty much everything but the amount of content. It's one thing to be bored, it's quite another to actively find the game unfun. In that respect I do think BfA will be remembered as a worse expansion than WoD.
    Last edited by Bigby; 2020-04-16 at 01:09 PM.

  14. #334
    Every Expansion since WOD onward has been garbage.

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