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  1. #461
    I hope Frost is utter shit in SL. It's such a boring spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS View Post
    I hope Frost is utter shit in SL. It's such a boring spec.
    Talk for yourself.
    I quite enjoy Frost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razorice View Post
    Talk for yourself.
    I quite enjoy Frost.
    Cool, go enjoy it in LFR where the spec belongs. Make way for us Unholy Chads to push the real content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS View Post
    I hope Frost is utter shit in SL. It's such a boring spec.
    Then don't play it?

  5. #465
    Unholy is a noob spec for bm hunters.

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    Keep it civil please guys
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  7. #467
    what made frost good (prior to WOD)was the sustains and procs that enabled sustains like a fury warrior has now. many are now claiming frost is A-tier pvp in SL. i have my doubts, the ret pal union always claiming how bad they are, a class that prior to WOD i could go toe to toe with, and flip a coin on the winner has been gone since WOD prepatch. i dare not duel, and dread facing in WPVP, BGs in 1vs1, even 1vs2-3.

    if you want to experience what a FDK was like pre WOD, fury warrior is the class it has no resource cost for it's self heals and based on haste CD is sooner. in SL blizz i hear that arms is getting something like that too now, a FDK death strike has to share resources with other abilities. even in BGs, i face a fury with 25% HP. the fight ends with FDK dead, fury heading to 80% plus HP due to no cost free sustains.

    i gave up on FDK 2 years ago, and only recently leveled a DK from 110 to 120 as BDK

    2h will not save a FDK or imo make it better, in WOD FDK still had 2H, the prune that robbed the procs to trigger death strike, siphon life, and death coil was robbed. blizzard also robbed 2H further into WOD, forcing FDKs to DW, even though 2H was still available, setting up the 2H prune for legion.

  8. #468
    You know what I've been messing around with glacial advance on the PTR in two handed and I'm just wondering why they don't just make it a replacement talent that replaces Frost strike because you're now applying razor ice with an ability so for two-handed a completely gets rid of that issue on longer fights.
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  9. #469
    To bad that the spec doesnt seem so nice. The biggest drawback though is that i cant find any good looking 2h-swords that fits my frost theme.

  10. #470
    I've gotta say, I'm glad you 2H boys have your playstyle back, but it's gonna really suck getting 2H weapons in my loot table now.
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  11. #471
    Quote Originally Posted by Stickiler View Post
    I've gotta say, I'm glad you 2H boys have your playstyle back, but it's gonna really suck getting 2H weapons in my loot table now.
    I'm really happy we have 2h frost back and your proposed problem is a real thing. I think, it's part of the reason why we're back to weapon tokens for raids now. But M+ likely will be a mess for Frost/Fury and specs that are back on using everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascius View Post
    I'm really happy we have 2h frost back and your proposed problem is a real thing. I think, it's part of the reason why we're back to weapon tokens for raids now. But M+ likely will be a mess for Frost/Fury and specs that are back on using everything.
    Way better actually, since 2H gearing is so much easier than DW gearing, the retards at Blizzard reverted the great Legion artifact change that made DW equal to 2H as a single slot.

    I mean, if you're lucky and get weapons easily, good for you.

    I spent 3 months doing M+15, not a single 2H weapon for unholy (literally, rings/belt/pants/boots on repeat with a single trinket drop for 3 months), and it took 2 months to see the 470 weapon off N'zoth. Meanwhile sitting on 455 2H while rest of the gear was 475.

    I'm never playing a DW class no matter how much I like Demonhunter because of this garbage, I can't imagine grinding for TWO weapons with bad luck and how rare they've made weapons.

  13. #473
    Quote Originally Posted by Skendarn View Post
    To bad that the spec doesnt seem so nice. The biggest drawback though is that i cant find any good looking 2h-swords that fits my frost theme.
    Wow was born on ____ it's 2020 now if you can't find something you like...that's on you. Tons of great stuff out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucrece View Post
    Way better actually, since 2H gearing is so much easier than DW gearing, the retards at Blizzard reverted the great Legion artifact change that made DW equal to 2H as a single slot.

    I mean, if you're lucky and get weapons easily, good for you.

    I spent 3 months doing M+15, not a single 2H weapon for unholy (literally, rings/belt/pants/boots on repeat with a single trinket drop for 3 months), and it took 2 months to see the 470 weapon off N'zoth. Meanwhile sitting on 455 2H while rest of the gear was 475.

    I'm never playing a DW class no matter how much I like Demonhunter because of this garbage, I can't imagine grinding for TWO weapons with bad luck and how rare they've made weapons.
    I mean that's been an issue since forever you act like it's something new. We got a handout with legion. Bad rng is bad rng. I played arms most of bfa and never had a short supply of 2hs and I changed my spec to prot to work on 1h cause I do want to try SMF again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tru View Post
    Wow was born on ____ it's 2020 now if you can't find something you like...that's on you. Tons of great stuff out there

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    I mean that's been an issue since forever you act like it's something new. We got a handout with legion. Bad rng is bad rng. I played arms most of bfa and never had a short supply of 2hs and I changed my spec to prot to work on 1h cause I do want to try SMF again.

    It's part of the game...that casino thing
    And I don't have to be happy with it just because it has existed for a long time. Especially now that bonus rolls are gone.

  15. #475
    The change to Death's Due is certainly interesting for 2h frosty bois. Locked into a specific covenant but cleaving Obliterate looks hella sexy.

    So we have Venthyr generating tons of resources for DW/Breath of Sindragosa and Night Fae being an AoE option for Obliteration focused 2h Frost.

    edit: But looks like it basically locks out Kyrian and Necrolords as options unless they're numerically buffed to the moon.
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  16. #476
    Quote Originally Posted by Skendarn View Post
    To bad that the spec doesnt seem so nice. The biggest drawback though is that i cant find any good looking 2h-swords that fits my frost theme.
    Surely you can. The unholy and blood artifacts are also transmogrifiable now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selaira View Post
    The change to Death's Due is certainly interesting for 2h frosty bois. Locked into a specific covenant but cleaving Obliterate looks hella sexy.

    So we have Venthyr generating tons of resources for DW/Breath of Sindragosa and Night Fae being an AoE option for Obliteration focused 2h Frost.

    edit: But looks like it basically locks out Kyrian and Necrolords as options unless they're numerically buffed to the moon.
    Does it really? An alternative would be Frostscythe talent, no?

  18. #478
    Quote Originally Posted by Swnem View Post
    Surely you can. The unholy and blood artifacts are also transmogrifiable now.
    I can confirm that you can t-mog a 2h to look like the DW artifacts but not sure about the other way around.
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  19. #479
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I can confirm that you can t-mog a 2h to look like the DW artifacts but not sure about the other way around.
    you can but it feels pretty terrible since it still swings at 2h speed and I think the offhand animation never gets used. and no the mogging over "wrong" weapons only works for that spec's artifact weapons. if you want to use a 2h artifact as a frost dk you have to have a 2h weapon and then it lets you mog it to either the blood or unholy ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selaira View Post
    The change to Death's Due is certainly interesting for 2h frosty bois. Locked into a specific covenant but cleaving Obliterate looks hella sexy.

    So we have Venthyr generating tons of resources for DW/Breath of Sindragosa and Night Fae being an AoE option for Obliteration focused 2h Frost.

    edit: But looks like it basically locks out Kyrian and Necrolords as options unless they're numerically buffed to the moon.
    What was the change? RL has kept me out of the loop on the recent PTR and Beta goings-on and I haven't the energy to muster a Google search :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swnem View Post
    Surely you can. The unholy and blood artifacts are also transmogrifiable now.
    The Unholy artifact skins def. look every bit as good for 2H Frost as they do for Unholy.
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